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On March 20 2014 10:17 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 10:13 DarthPunk wrote:
What did you like about holy flare "reading between the lines"? and what does that even mean? Reading between the lines was bad phrasing it was more about him bringing up other cases outside of on rayn and coag going on then. He was not just looking at this one thing going on and saying omfg this guy is town in the arguement he was looking at your interactions during it and basing it off that. It felt more townie to me to be concerned with not just the one argument. I saw you ask this earlier but i find my phrasing insignificant at best and I don't really care if you think I'm scummy for not answering a question about someone I town read.
I literally don't understand this at all so I'm going to drop it.
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On March 20 2014 11:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam there is ~20 hours left in the day and noone thinks you are mafia.
Sick plays.
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What I am more interested in regarding Tehpoofter is how his story changed from the first post regarding holyflare and his later clarification. I initially did not realize it because it took so damn long for him to answer my question but here is a fundamental problem I have with his story.
I cut out the non essential parts of this post. Here are the Important bits:
On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.
His read on Koshi is important: Why? because here he gives a town read, for a specific reason. (because he was not getting caught up in rayn/coag shit fight and was insteadtalking about other things) he states the read and the reason.
On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!
The next part he is talking about holyflares 'case' not holyflare himself. He likes that 'case' because of some unclear undefined reason. This is obviously very different from the clear read and reason given for his town read Koshi above.
After seeking clarity which tehpoofter admits he avoided providing he posts this:
On March 20 2014 10:17 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 10:13 DarthPunk wrote:
What did you like about holy flare "reading between the lines"? and what does that even mean? Reading between the lines was bad phrasing it was more about him bringing up other cases outside of on rayn and coag going on then. He was not just looking at this one thing going on and saying omfg this guy is town in the arguement he was looking at your interactions during it and basing it off that. It felt more townie to me to be concerned with not just the one argument. I saw you ask this earlier but i find my phrasing insignificant at best and I don't really care if you think I'm scummy for not answering a question about someone I town read.
And this:
On March 20 2014 10:32 Tehpoofter wrote:
@DP Suffice it to say I was reading HF town because he wasnt talking about Rayn Coag in the first 3 hours that is also why I have a town read on Koshi (early town read) That was basically all I was saying I phrased it poorly so I understand your confusion.
In which he states that he was in fact giving HF a town read for the same reasons that he gave Koshi a town read. I accepted this at face value until I read his filter again. This is outright bullshit.
He clearly is talking about how he likes holyflares case not that he thinks holyflare is town.
On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!
And we know know his post hoc explanation behind his reasoning that he tried so hard to avoid providing is bullshit also.
Because if he is making this exact read:
On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.
on holyflare it should read like this
On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Koshi Holyflare gets town for being the first on that "shut up about rayn and coag" train. Trying to get other reads going.
Rather than this:
On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!
He is clearly talking about a case rather than a town read of HF, he is clearly not giving the same reasoning as koshi, because
A.) it makes no sense in the context of liking HF"s case against me and
B.) It is not what he had otherwise clearly stated in regards to koshi.
Now this would be a lot more meaningful if he had answered my question that I have asked half a dozen time.
But Tehpoofter ACTIVELY AVOIDED ANSWERING IT.
/case
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On March 20 2014 13:59 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 13:52 Holyflare wrote:On March 20 2014 13:48 Vivax wrote:On March 20 2014 13:32 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 20 2014 13:28 Vivax wrote:
HF you should have known you actually SPOKE about that shit, how do you accept Poofter townreading you for something that has not happened? He specifically said it's cause you didn't talk about it in the first three hours of the game, well herp-a-derp you talked about it 30 minutes afterwards. I don't think you even tried to understand my post. What tehpoofter meant: "not talkng about rayn vs coag" = "reading betwen the lines" = "being interested in things other than the main topic" = "townie" Riddle me this, how does HF making a case on DP constitute "reading between the lines" when it happened BEFORE the rayn Coag shit happened? isn't he referencing the part where I point out palmar and dp? Maybe you should ask him, or compare the timestamps. Figure out if he's scum and shit, I thought that's what were here for, not defending people for bad reasons. You chose to dismiss my arguments without even knowing for sure who he was talking about? DP is here, you promised to tell us why he's scum. Proceed please.
Please no. Why would you want to get holyflare going again? All he has done with his 'push' on me is shat up the thread and prevented me from scum-hunting.
He is not going to lynch me. The most that can come from it is a fucking mess.
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On March 20 2014 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
but yeh dp voting giggletummy even after he provided reasoning that DP should agree with because DP is trying to use that logic to call me scum is super super duper weird
He made a vote then afk'd which is a classic scum tell. He then made a case on an old vote much too late and then afk'd again.
I even said. If this dude goes afk again we should lynch him.
Now kindly shut up about me. Get your vote that has been uselessly on me all game the fuck off me and do something else.
K thanks.
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I want to know what people think of tehpoofter after reading my case.
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On March 20 2014 14:11 Holyflare wrote:
no because you are actually fucking scum and i'm going to prove it you can whine about it all game and all post game about how my reasoning is wrong but your flip will justify this shit
giggletummy - it doesn't matter WHEN he posted his reasoning, it is all stuff that you have been saying that I was doing all game. YOU AGREE WITH HIS FUCKING CASE AND VOTE HIM OVER TEHPOOFTER WHO YOU MADE A GIANT CASE ON STRAIGHT AWAY CALLING HIM 100% SCUM
I'm not scum so all that is going to happen is you looking ridiculous and hopefully this never happens again after you are served your humble pie.
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On March 20 2014 14:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Vivax so is my thing with HF and DP so scummy in my wording one phrase wrong thats worse than what GT/hopeless have done? I mean you voted for me so I assume so. Do you think that I'm scum and they aren't? IF so can I hear your town case on GT/hopeless cause those are the two I'm looking at today for my vote.
Why haven't you addressed what I wrote?
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On March 20 2014 14:49 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 14:46 DarthPunk wrote:On March 20 2014 14:45 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Vivax so is my thing with HF and DP so scummy in my wording one phrase wrong thats worse than what GT/hopeless have done? I mean you voted for me so I assume so. Do you think that I'm scum and they aren't? IF so can I hear your town case on GT/hopeless cause those are the two I'm looking at today for my vote. Why haven't you addressed what I wrote? Its the same thing you wrote before and I'm ignoring your tunneling because your wrong and you clearly are a player that tunnels. Get off me and look elsewhere if you're town which I actually think you are. I've addressed what you said before and did yet again which I can link.
OK link it. I literally have not talked about this before. And I am not tunneled. Link where I have said the same things and where you have responded.
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On March 20 2014 14:52 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 14:17 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Thrawn thanks for defending me but I got this.
@vivax. Your accusation is shit. I explained my stance on HF quite well and if you can't read what I said as simply bad phrasing from someone then thats fine scum read me for it but you're incorrect. I will explain one last time then I'm on to scum hunting. I said read between the lines that was a poor choice of phrasing I just meant HF wasn't just focused on the Rayn/coag situation but wanted to look at other sources. This made me read him as town even if I didn't think that his case was super strong I wouldn't expect it to be that early so I read him town for making one.
No onto real scum hunting. @DP i address it again here just so you can see bolded for you. MAn this Tehpoofter guy is town is what you should be typing. Your point about me changing between the case and the read on HF I meant it as a read on HF and even in my diagram I didn't put you as scummy because I didn't agree that you were from his case I pushed you more towards scum cause at the time I read you more scummy than him but not scummy. We good? I will entertain your accusations for the next like 30 minutes so feel free to keep them coming but after that if you're town we need to actually kill mafia not fight.
No that does not make sense because you were talking about Holyflare's case on me not about a read on holyflare. You literally said that you liked holyflare's case. Not that you thought that Holy was town and holy's case had nothing to do with the raayn coag situation.
Now you are saying you didn't think the case was good. But originally you said you liked his case. That is a completely out of whack story you have going on.
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On March 20 2014 14:58 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:
@ tehpoofter. What did you like about holyflare 'reading between the lines' and what the fuck does that even mean? Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 10:32 Tehpoofter wrote:
@DP Suffice it to say I was reading HF town because he wasnt talking about Rayn Coag in the first 3 hours that is also why I have a town read on Koshi (early town read) That was basically all I was saying I phrased it poorly so I understand your confusion. There you go
You are lying. You were talking about holyflares case. Not about a town read on holyflare
On March 19 2014 12:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I liked Holyflare's case on DP it at least seemed like he took the time to read between the lines a bit. DP seems to discredit this as being a shit read but if it was shitty I'm buying the shit at least for now so sign me up!!!
Why are you lying?
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On March 20 2014 15:18 Holyflare wrote:
Do people not read it as "i liked that hf made a case" not that he likes the case and thinks dp is scum?
No because when he gave a town read he said Koshi is town: Here is the reason.
I explained all this in my case, you are not even reading my posts properly obviously.
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On March 20 2014 15:15 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 14:56 DarthPunk wrote:
No that does not make sense because you were talking about Holyflare's case on me not about a read on holyflare. You literally said that you liked holyflare's case. Not that you thought that Holy was town and holy's case had nothing to do with the raayn coag situation.
Now you are saying you didn't think the case was good. But originally you said you liked his case. That is a completely out of whack story you have going on. Fair enough if thats your hangup consider it a misstep I see where you're getting that case and read are different. I meant it as a read at the time I did like the case when I made the original post I have since decided that his case was weak after a reread so I just stuck with the read. I only bring up the case thing because the fact he made a case good or bad was more the fact he made the case.
No you are talking about the case clearly and obviously. Now you are squirming because you are a caught liar.
In that same post you gave a read on several players by calling them town or scummy. In that post you are clearly and obviously talking about liking holyflares case. And the reasoning as to why. Which you later lie about.
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On March 20 2014 15:23 Holyflare wrote:
I haven't read your post at all
Then when you call me scum I will ignore you because you aren't even reading my posts 
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He lied. He tried to cover it up. He changed his story. He is scum.
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On March 20 2014 15:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 15:35 DarthPunk wrote:He lied. He tried to cover it up. He changed his story. He is scum. This is apparently the same reasoning you have on me lol but i know I'm town so why can't he be?
I don't know you are town so why would that reasoning apply to me holyflare?
This guy made a scummy as shit opening post. Actively avoided answering a question that would make him look bad, answered it with a blatant fucking lie, then avoided addressing my case until I directly asked him. In response to that case he just repeated the same lie.
Now that he is caught he is martyring and acting like a caught scum to be perfectly honest.
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On March 20 2014 15:39 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 15:35 DarthPunk wrote:He lied. He tried to cover it up. He changed his story. He is scum. Glad you grew a pair and voted after 30+ hours of accusation. You're still wrong. I think you're town reading your filter so I'm trying to show you I'm not mafia. I realize forum and video mafia are different but if you look at my only other mafia games for forum I played one game and just tunneled on one person the whole game and got lynched day 2. This is me playing town so right this down for your meta DP.
If you are town show me by providing some scum reads and the reasoning behind those reads. The only way you will convince me is by actively finding scum.
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On March 20 2014 15:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
@HF Do you know vivax and DP play? Is tunneling this poorly on a town indicative of either's alignment? Like I read DP as town from his filter even though hes wrong. Vivax in my opinion could have jumped on the Rayn thing if he was mafia I basically set him up for early but maybe it was super obvious idk. So I actually read them both as town but to me their case is like way too much harping on a little bit of phrasing so just want to see what you think about if this is alignment indicative of either of them.
Holyflare has played 1 game with me as town and I was a smurf intentionally trying a different style. He is completely unaware of my meta. Also he thinks I am scum so what do you fucking expect from that question?
Like this is what you are doing:
Hey holyflare what do you think of the person whom you have tunneled very obviously all fucking game?
I think he is town but I hope you call him scum again so that it will take pressure of me and I can omgus without it looking like omgus.
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On March 20 2014 15:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 15:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
@HF Do you know vivax and DP play? Is tunneling this poorly on a town indicative of either's alignment? Like I read DP as town from his filter even though hes wrong. Vivax in my opinion could have jumped on the Rayn thing if he was mafia I basically set him up for early but maybe it was super obvious idk. So I actually read them both as town but to me their case is like way too much harping on a little bit of phrasing so just want to see what you think about if this is alignment indicative of either of them. Dp is scum and if you read his filter you'd know it. He even just tried to give you an out "if you are town prove it" despite previously calling you 100% scum, a liar that is scum etc etc. Vivax.. Idk he's asking for your reads so meh
I do that in every game as town Holyflare. It is my standard response to people claiming they are town when I think they are scum. It is good play. I know you know nothing about my meta but come on man. At least try.
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On March 20 2014 15:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 15:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
@HF Do you know vivax and DP play? Is tunneling this poorly on a town indicative of either's alignment? Like I read DP as town from his filter even though hes wrong. Vivax in my opinion could have jumped on the Rayn thing if he was mafia I basically set him up for early but maybe it was super obvious idk. So I actually read them both as town but to me their case is like way too much harping on a little bit of phrasing so just want to see what you think about if this is alignment indicative of either of them. Dp is scum and if you read his filter you'd know it. He even just tried to give you an out "if you are town prove it" despite previously calling you 100% scum, a liar that is scum etc etc. Vivax.. Idk he's asking for your reads so meh
And look at this. he calls me scum and that I am trying to give him an 'out' by asking for him toi scum hunt.
But he doesn't know about Vivax because he asked for his reads which is the same fucking thing.
HAHAHA holy flare is so disastrously tunneled or scum. Cop check plz.
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