Hm. But what do you think of these points:

1) gumshoe played exactly like this as town in GoT Mafia?
2) it's pretty unlikely that Veteran would also become a BD compared to one of JOAT's powers changing into BD for Mafia?

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 15:07 GMT

#2357

I wouldn't oppose killing gumshoe if he just comes back to ninja vote, but honestly I think LSB is more likely Mafia.

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 15:11 GMT

#2359

Policy lynch, best lynch.

Even better than lynching townies!

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 15:22 GMT

#2360

It's now 4 in favor of LSB and 2 in favor of gumshoe (LSB, prplhz). gumshoe has yet to (ninja) vote.

Btw don't forget that if I'm not around at deadline, a tie means no-lynch (which is the worst thing that could happen). In that case lynch either one of them.

If gumshoe remains AFK he's probably getting modkilled. In that case we should definitely not lynch him.

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 18:47 GMT

#2367

How much is the time difference? If it's significantly different from the deadline post, then I think it's safe to assume that it wasn't related to the deadline...

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 21:36 GMT

#2386

My check result came just after the deadline (and the daypost came exactly at the deadline).

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 21:38 GMT

#2388

*just after* as in around a minute or so

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 21:41 GMT

#2390

On March 10 2014 04:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Anyway if it isn't LSB then this game is really dumb.
LSB's confidence could also come from the DT ability turning into a framing ability for scum and being able to frame himself to look as town so he'd be confirmed town. And he could be allowed to use two abilities. Would be a pretty OP role then but those kinda roles are all we're potentially left with anyway, and JOAT makes the most sense for it.

I doubt it'd be two powers at the same time. It's possible that it was just a risk he took. Actually if I redchecked him he'd be screwed anyway, so why not?

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 21:44 GMT

#2392

I won't be there at the deadline, but I leave you, Artanis, to handle the lynch

LSB is very probably the best lynch. If he's town, we'll have to think of something else, but for now I think it's him.

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 21:46 GMT

#2394

On March 10 2014 06:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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He could've busdriven himself with marv, let gum die and have you "greencheck" him.

Then gumshoe would be dead now and marv would be alive?

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 21:50 GMT

#2396

Hmm. I'd say killing marv instead of gumshoe is a pretty big plus. Also I didn't really give the impression that I was going to check LSB from my thread presence... Maybe he felt like he had to take a risk?

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 21:52 GMT

#2398

This was my last post before the night deadline:

On March 08 2014 03:43 Xatalos wrote:

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Btw what does this mean? We should check each other? Why?

It really doesn't give the impression that my check was locked on LSB....

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 09 2014 21:54 GMT

#2400

It's pretty hard to rely so much on role speculation. I guess it's possible that the truth is something we haven't even thought about yet...

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 22:00 GMT

#2401

I guess one weird possibility is that gumshoe became a PGO and marv RB'd him for some reason and then he died because of the PGO effect. It seems unlikely that a PGO would survive 2 KP as well though.

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 22:01 GMT

#2403

Oats is confirmed town though. And Palmar killed austin. I guess there's a small chance that Palmar did that just to gain cred but it simply cannot be Oats.

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 22:06 GMT

#2409

Here are the things that confirm Oats:

1) A greencheck while having no role (no way to be immune to a check)
2) marv dying through weird night actions (no way for Oats to kill him)

I *guess* there's a very small chance that Oats's role became something else because of him being scum. A VERY small chance. But then his role would need to be 1) immune to Cop checks 2) able to kill through protection / bus drive. It's just unlikely.

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 22:12 GMT

#2411

It's too bad yamato and austin were so useless that there's really no way to make connection theories. Although here are a couple of things I thought about:

1) Pretty much the only "contribution" from yamato was to throw dirt at Palmar. This makes Palmar more likely town.
2) The only thing austin did was to hard defend LSB. It's weird no matter how you look at it. I can't fathom his thought process there for now. WIFOM regarding a scummate? Maybe.

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 22:24 GMT

#2413

I don't think so. marv would love to see Hopeless claim scum by doing something unexpected. Although I guess it's not totally impossible.

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 22:25 GMT

#2415

On March 10 2014 07:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Marv said he explicitly wanted Hopeless to shoot Gumshoe though, probably wouldn't have done that if he was planning on rbing him.

Exactly.

Xatalos

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March 09 2014 22:30 GMT

#2417

I still have a nagging doubt that something like this happened:

1) Hopeless shot gumshoe (gumshoe got the notification just after the deadline)
2) prplhz fakeclaimed a day-vig shot on gumshoe at that same moment (maybe his role changed into something different and he had to fakeclaim a day-vig shot at this perfect opportunity?)

prplhz seems town though and his role changing so drastically from day-vig is very unlikely....