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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 00:59 GMT
#1022
This is the best town atmosphere after Titanic II i have seen on TL and the only people who can even said to be "stirring shit up" are geript and Mocsta.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 01:00 GMT
#1025
Mocsta can you actually answer the points i have raised against you in more detail?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 01:05 GMT
#1028
On February 27 2014 10:01 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta can you actually answer the points i have raised against you in more detail?

I wouldn't mind some acknowledgement form you re:Vivax, Rayn.
I don't appreciate how you've essentially ignored everything I brought to the table about him since I started and the second Vivax counters you engage him.

I am more interested in my read on Mocsta at the moment. I don't care about Vivax because he is voting for the target i think is most likely mafia. In case Mocsta proves himself as town then i'll look into Vivax.

I want more from the people who are NOT voting for Mocsta (don't think he is mafia) and not pushing any lynch. If we have a counter-wagon or Mocsta starts shitting townie bricks then we can talk.

I think your case on Vivax is okay, but my case on Mocsta is better. If you want more detailed answer you have to wait until things happen.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 01:06 GMT
#1032
On February 27 2014 10:02 suki wrote:
Like for all the activity in the thread so many people have been called out as scum and there's no consensus. Toad and geript are at each others throats. Mocsta is being wagoned on. Thechyz, vivax now, gumshoe, wave. All of them can't possibly be mafia

Usually town has some direction day one.this game there is none

Funny thing, in the last game you got killed you called about seven people mafia on D1.
And now you think town has no consensus, because 12 people have called 5 people scum (btw all of those people are definitely not even lynch targets any more).
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 01:08 GMT
#1036
And not only that suki, but instead of providing a direction you only come here to shit on the town for no reason.
What does that achieve?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 01:37 GMT
#1059
On February 27 2014 10:10 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And not only that suki, but instead of providing a direction you only come here to shit on the town for no reason.
What does that achieve?


Just wanna play I miss mafia. Sorry

Now what does you missing mafia (whatever that might mean) have to do with what the rest of the town is doing and you misrepresenting it?

On February 27 2014 10:19 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta can you actually answer the points i have raised against you in more detail?

There was nothing to respond to

U created two situations where I must be scum only

I'm. Not.. So didn't understand your points and responded accordingly already

I want you to answer specifically these things:
    [1.] How did you end up in a conclusion you presented about me-Toad eariler on in the game. Can you show me some examples from earlier games you think supports your argument? Me thinking someone is good/bad has nothing to do with me not being able to form a read on them and honeslty what you said reads only as you trying to shit on me-Toad for no reason, unless you can actually provide some examples that back up your thought process.
    [2.] I don't understand how you read suki's posts three times and end up in a different conclusion every time. Which time you didn't read closely, because i can't believe you read someone closely enough to make a big post on them but not closely enough that after a re-read you form a different opinion on them. After your last re-read, which are the posts from suki that outweigh the earlier scummy posts from her so much that you are confident enough to call her town?

Now Mocsta, i know you know how to make people think about certain way of you when you are mafia. You appeal to emotion a lot because you know what people want to hear. Based on suki's case on you it's totally possible that you changed your read on her just to throw her off you, which apparently worked out if you are mafia and she is town. The fact that you call me town now, it does not work, and i also want ot hear this:
    [3.] Why did you have a scumread on me early on?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 01:48 GMT
#1064
Wait Vivax i gotta reread that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 01:54 GMT
#1065
Yes it's quite bad. I don't close out the possibility of them both being mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 01:55 GMT
#1066
I have absolutely no idea why suki reads Mocsta as town. I don't see anything Mocsta explained to her that should make her think so.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 02:24 GMT
#1078
I really think Cavalinho and TheChyz should engage the discussions more than they have done.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 02:26 GMT
#1080
If you are new it does not mean you are worse than annyone else in this game. You will be listened as much as anyone else and your opinion is as valuable as anyone else's. The worst thing you can do (AS TOWN) is to fear that you will get mislynched because other people are more experienced than you are and you fuck up or something. Being wrong is not scummy, not willing to patricipate however is.

Please guys, give your opinions and participate more.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 02:31 GMT
#1083
Vivax calling town atmosphere shit is not subjective.

At that time there were three real cases. Case on Mocsta, case on you and a case on TheChyz. Nobody was really pushing anything else. This is not "all over the place" by any means. Also there are no people telling each other to go fuck themselves or refuse to engage into discussion with someone else or generally raging by any reason - which is another instance of shit atmosphere.

So, suki's interpretation of shit atmosphere is totally incorrect and she could not even explain it later on.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 02:55 GMT
#1091
On February 27 2014 11:49 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.



There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.

I am going to answer this. What the fuck are you doing?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:04 GMT
#1096
Take a break gumshoe.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:07 GMT
#1099
On February 27 2014 12:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 11:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:49 gumshoe wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 27 2014 11:41 gumshoe wrote:
1: Find me an exact quote where he renounces specifically his initial suspicion of her post.

On February 26 2014 17:29 Mocsta wrote:
On February 26 2014 17:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Mocsta why does your read on suki end up in null after a reread and then boombadaboom it's suddenly top 2 town?

I like her attitude after my callout.
I dont think a scum Suki had any need to maintain thread presence after I was getting hammered.

Also, on a reread, I agreed with JJD that Suki was actually relatively light hearted.
I completely misread that her dig on Toad was a retort to Toad calling her out, for example.

There one or two other minor things, but I dont think its important to discuss them right now.



There is a difference between conceding that someone isn't scum because of one post, and believing so firmly in their townieness as a result of that null at best opening, that one is willing to literally orient their play around that person alignment.

I am going to answer this. What the fuck are you doing?

Weren't you the one that said town gumshoe is all pants on head?

I don't get this:
gumshoe makes an argument. JJD answers the argument. gumshoe asks him to elaborate more on his answer. JJD proves his statement. gumshoe says "no that was not my argument, in fact it was this (something else)".
That makes absolutely no sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:11 GMT
#1103
Also gumshoe has no fucking idea what he is talking about when he is talking about Mocsta's play in GSL IV. We played pretty normally on D1. Only after our fucking scumteam decided to lurk the shit out of the game and half of the town did the same thing we decided the game was boring and started posting shit, Mocsta scumclaimed etc. The last game has nothing to do with Mocsta's meta because the game was shit and we were bored. Mocsta has never ever played like that game as mafia and he probably never will.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:12 GMT
#1106
Regardless of how many fucking times he rolls scum in a row.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:29 GMT
#1119
On February 27 2014 12:22 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2014 10:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:10 suki wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And not only that suki, but instead of providing a direction you only come here to shit on the town for no reason.
What does that achieve?


Just wanna play I miss mafia. Sorry

Now what does you missing mafia (whatever that might mean) have to do with what the rest of the town is doing and you misrepresenting it?

On February 27 2014 10:19 Mocsta wrote:
On February 27 2014 10:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta can you actually answer the points i have raised against you in more detail?

There was nothing to respond to

U created two situations where I must be scum only

I'm. Not.. So didn't understand your points and responded accordingly already

I want you to answer specifically these things:
    [1.] How did you end up in a conclusion you presented about me-Toad eariler on in the game. Can you show me some examples from earlier games you think supports your argument? Me thinking someone is good/bad has nothing to do with me not being able to form a read on them and honeslty what you said reads only as you trying to shit on me-Toad for no reason, unless you can actually provide some examples that back up your thought process.
    [2.] I don't understand how you read suki's posts three times and end up in a different conclusion every time. Which time you didn't read closely, because i can't believe you read someone closely enough to make a big post on them but not closely enough that after a re-read you form a different opinion on them. After your last re-read, which are the posts from suki that outweigh the earlier scummy posts from her so much that you are confident enough to call her town?

Now Mocsta, i know you know how to make people think about certain way of you when you are mafia. You appeal to emotion a lot because you know what people want to hear. Based on suki's case on you it's totally possible that you changed your read on her just to throw her off you, which apparently worked out if you are mafia and she is town. The fact that you call me town now, it does not work, and i also want ot hear this:
    [3.] Why did you have a scumread on me early on?

1. My personal assessment of your character

2. My attention is very diverted this game cos of real life. Hence what I think about things changes when I reread. Yes I'm guilty of outputting low formed thoughts.

3. Mainly because u approached early game ignoring me. I expected u to spend a lot of time on me given we were just hydraed.

Well this is not detailed enough answer for me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:45 GMT
#1130
On February 27 2014 12:41 Mocsta wrote:
Lol chz

M first comment in the gsl scum qt was that BH promised to roll me town and didn't.

Not that it matters but I did the same thing this game

Anyways I'm not spelling ya name wrong intentionally

Auto correct in a rush.

Did you claim scum or modkill yourself?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 27 2014 03:49 GMT
#1135
In GSL BH actually did promise Mocsta to roll him town and didn't (because what's the point of hydraing if you are scum?!?).
So either Mocsta has requested the same thing again and didnt' get it or he is modconfirming himself as town in which case he should be modkilled.
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