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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 17 2014 19:30 GMT
#14
tentative /in
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 19 2014 23:33 GMT
#123
claiming Vanilli Townie
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 19 2014 23:34 GMT
#125
also my vote is right where i want it: on the smurf
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 19 2014 23:40 GMT
#129
On February 20 2014 08:36 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 08:33 prplhz wrote:
claiming Vanilli Townie


What's the benefit of claiming green? I've seen it in a lot of old games and i've always been curious.

it's because that while townies mostly ignore it, it turns out that there's like a 90% chance that the first guy who asks why someone else is claiming green is scum

that's you

it's called the kenpachi strategy and it's fool proof
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 00:13 GMT
#177
On February 20 2014 09:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's called "take a fucking stance or vote for yourself".

Yea that's what I thought, you are actively trying not to take a stand. I don't know who you voted for before but he was not in any danger of getting lynched so there's no reason to change your vote at all, only reason is to say "hey everybody i'm harmless and i don't have an opinion on lynch".

And I think this is scummy.

##Vote raynpelikoneet
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 00:14 GMT
#181
Like, voting plans which are not designed to actually lynch scum are always scummy because they're designed to not do a single thing while still being some sort of contribution.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 00:21 GMT
#192
On February 20 2014 09:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am taking no stance because there is no stance to take atm prplhz. If you are seriously saying you think someone is scum at this moment you are lying. Pressuring people is fine but what you are accusing me of is a straight out stretch.

But who cares where your vote is at, why even bother to implement a plan that allows people to do nothing. No, I don't expect people to have big scum reads right now but that doesn't mean we need to implement a plan to virtually unvote in an unvote free voting system. It just serves absolutely no purpose.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 00:28 GMT
#198
On February 20 2014 09:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
prplhz did you even read my posts?

Yes. You are unhappy that you can't unvote so you propose that instead of unvoting people should just vote for themselves. I don't know why you think it's a problem that people can't unvote, if anything that's a plus for town.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 02:33 GMT
#302
I still think that raynpelikoneet's plan is completely useless and no townie has any reason to come up with or push it.

I also agree with marvellosity that it doesn't make sense that scum would hard push a silly slightly scummy plan in thread like this.

I don't like that suki says in this post:

On February 20 2014 09:46 suki wrote:
I agree that finding a way to 'unvote' is stupid. I don't think it makes me lean scum or town on rayn either way.


that the plan is stupid but neither scummy nor townie and then she says in this post

On February 20 2014 11:00 suki wrote:
Show nested quote +
rayn said:
We don't want that because we benefit from clarity and it's beneficial we know exactly WHEN and WHY people drop their scumreads and where they head next. If they don't have next target they should inform that by voting for themselves. This prevents mafia from misrepresenting people because you can always back up your thoughts with your actions in thread (most importantly voting). Having no possibility to unvote is pro-mafia, if you't agree with that you need to explain me why. It's never irrelevant where your vote is at.


Here's how I see it. Because you're forced to vote someone, you can't unvote and remain without an opinion (well, except with this stupid plan). This is pro-town. If someone voted Koshi and said, 'I don't think Koshi is scum anymore' but kept his vote on Koshi, then pressuring that person to take a stance on someone else IS pro-town because they can't just unvote and say 'I dont know I'm thinking'.

It forces accountability, and mafia hate being accountable for their actions. This outweighs scum possibly misrepresenting someone because they didn't take off their vote.


that the plan is anti-town, or something like that, she uses pro-town to describe a situation where the plan is not implemented.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 02:37 GMT
#307
Okay suki I can buy that.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 02:44 GMT
#311
On February 20 2014 11:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So what was your reasoning for unvoting as town or as mafia? I guarantee as mafia it's most likely "because i would do that as town" as in "i try to look townie" because that's why you do things as mafia right?

So we can exclude that part. What was your reasoning for unvote as town?

top kek

You don't think there was ever a scum who was like "Shit, I need to get my vote off of this guy because this vote is a little silly and it's attracting attention to me. I guess I'll try to do it in a townie way."

The whole "scum act like town so we can never catch them"-idea is silly. Scum can't perfectly act like town and the more we force them to act the less they look like town (ideally).
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 02:52 GMT
#316
Why is VIVAX420 not talking more than he is?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 03:08 GMT
#322
On February 20 2014 11:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2014 11:33 prplhz wrote:
I still think that raynpelikoneet's plan is completely useless and no townie has any reason to come up with or push it.

I also agree with marvellosity that it doesn't make sense that scum would hard push a silly slightly scummy plan in thread like this.

Also this is why prplhz is mafia. It's an obvious contradiction that makes no sense.

##unvote
##Vote: prplhz

There is no contradiction.

First I say that the plan is bad and townies have no reason to push it or come up with it.

Then I say that the way you pushed it seems atypical for scum.

I am not even talking about the same thing in the two sentences. If it's conflicting because I first say that I have reason to believe you are scum and then I say I have reason to believe you are town then sure, I agree. That happens to everybody all the time though and anyway, it's not a contradiction.
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 03:10 GMT
#324
On February 20 2014 12:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No it's a total contradiction. I guarantee you noone does that as town. He is mafia.

What if someone does that at town?

Also, what is "that"? Saying allegedly contradicting statements or this pair of statements specifically?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 03:11 GMT
#327
bleh rayn it's not that black/white

if you want to lynch someone for using hyperbole then you're a moron
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 03:13 GMT
#330
town has no reason to push that plan but that does not mean they will not do it
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 03:14 GMT
#331
i also did not call you a moron, unless you actually want to lynch me for hyperbole in which case i stand by my statement
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 03:27 GMT
#333
okay
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 03:30 GMT
#335
i really don't think that rayn is within reach right now

is VIVAX420 kushmasta?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
February 20 2014 03:31 GMT
#337
you're awfully composed aren't you?
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