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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:13 GMT
#2163
How about Vayne you talk about why your read on me and Koshi is pure bullshit, and why don't you comment on the Koshi case at the same time?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:16 GMT
#2166
Reminds me of Golden Sun.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:20 GMT
#2169
Noone is saying so.

I am saying you are mafia because you can't possibly believe Cephiro is mafia as town because that's EXACTLY what he does as town. Do you think Cephiro as mafia (when he is not under any pressure at all) goes through all that effort and makes some "townie plan" when he can just... not do it? HE WAS UNDER NO PRESSURE VAYNE!

On top of that your reads on me, Koshi and Skanjabs are really fucking shitty, because your read on me is not a read and your read on Koshi is a total misconstruction of his meta. You read on Skan is "he is mafia because he is accusing mafia" which is bullshit.

That's why i think you are mafia. So if you are town start reading the fucking thread and comment on other people besides your tunnelteam.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:21 GMT
#2170
On January 23 2014 02:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Reminds me of Golden Sun.


nope this is titanic II where I thought you were town and couldn't believe how big of a fucking moron you were being believing that " scumslipped" but then we all saw what you were.

I didn't believe any of it. If you read my QT i was laughing at people thinking you were scum and playing along bbecause it was beneficial to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:24 GMT
#2171
I would have liked to lynch town on D2 still, but this is good too. Unless cop is someone incompetent i don't think i will get copped, i'm more worried about scum shooting me. Soo... i need to hang on to "yo Vayne claimed scum" theory and tunnel him next day. tbh i do not think he is mafia, that's what Vayne does as town. I don't think Slam is scum either but this is really good now. Hopefully scum will shoot BH.
Here's how much i believed you "scumslipped".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:29 GMT
#2173
Fine then i have nothing to say to you other than if you believe Cephiro is mafia and you are town you are a retard.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:30 GMT
#2175
btw i am not switching my vote so afk for the rest of the day.
Impossible to say anything because noone is reading, everyone is just tunneling.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:32 GMT
#2176
On January 23 2014 02:30 VayneAuthority wrote:
as I said if you can show me that town game of cephiro where he does those things I will concede I am a retard. Until then nah.

Hogwarts mafia:
Cephiro fakeclims idk, about 10 different roles and has some fukcing plan that in the end gets him lynched.
Aperture mafia:
Cephiro makes a plan "hey let's not lynch scum but instead make him shoot another scum during the night" - ending up town losing becase we lynched town and scum endgamed the town during the night
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:37 GMT
#2180
After ~40 hours of bullshitting:
On October 24 2013 23:15 Cephiro wrote:
Okay, I'll stop the lies. Truth most useful to town after I die.

Grack has to be town because he picked up on stuff that did not exist.

I AM NOT A COP

My real role is the coin thing, I have no powers on top of the masonry, with the exception that I gain 1 secret vote for every 2 coin owners that die.

I secret voted Stutters because I thought the lynch was between two townies and Stutters had been of no use.

I made no breadcrumbs or anything, I faked everything afterwards. The candy thing was a super lucky guess, and when rayn asked me in the QT how I would know, I guessed he was Ron after that. But I do not have a greencheck on him in reality. Scum ray would know this, and would also know that when I flip he would inevitably be the next one to die due to this very reason. That's why I think Gryffindor is all town.

I know this sounds super weird (because it is), but this time I'm speaking the truth. The Finland "breadcrumb", was something I just came up with after trying to link myself into Susan or Bones somehow, it took quite a while to find a lucky connection afterwards.

Yes, I fakeclaimed cop as town.

Yes, I will probably die today.

Yes, you are killing these 4 people:
Chairman Ray, Onegu, Holyflare, skanjab1s

Questions?

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:38 GMT
#2181
On January 23 2014 02:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
the only other scum team that makes sense to me atm would be oats/skanjab/sn0. so if you want to convince me of that go for it.

omg, srsly?
rofl
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:38 GMT
#2182
That is a scumteam that makes literally the least sense in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:43 GMT
#2184
Why not Koshi/Sn0/X?
Sno doesn't want to lynch Koshi and vice versa?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:44 GMT
#2185
Or Koshi/Oats/X?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:45 GMT
#2186
I don't understand how you can possibly think Koshi is possibly not mafia.
All he has done is yell Mig is scum. At the end of N2 he says "okay i have no reads". His top scumread dies and suddenly he knows all the scum instantly. Does that make sense to you? Then he votes for the dude who is in his opinion scum only by association. Does that make sense to you?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:50 GMT
#2189
Okay let's have a discussion then.

What do you think? Look at my case here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440800&currentpage=103#2057
Also Koshi tells people to look at night kills. Apparently he only looked at Mig's reads. Mig was his top scumread, how can he instantly assume Mig has "the best reads ever" as before flip he assumed the dude was scum (so obviously he should be having bad reads). It makes zero sense and feels pre-thought.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:55 GMT
#2191
On January 23 2014 02:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
what are these "X"? Can't associate anything without a full team. If we are doing Koshi teams then it would be Koshi/Sn0...? but who is the third in these teams? there's no good fit unless oats has been bussing with sn0 but there interactions look much more real then the sn0/skanjab interactions. which is why i think their bussing is more likely.

It could be Koshi/Oats/Skan if you are town.
Sn0 feels like a mislynch as me, Hopeless & Cephiro are the only people opposing the lynch. I really do not think Sn0 is mafia because of the people attacking him on LYLO. Noone has really wanted to lynch him before this. Oats only started playing now, when the game is nearly over. wtf is that? That's fucking crap. Skanjabs has put no effort into anything but "don't lynch Toad". I don't even remember who he wanted to lynch on D2 so it must not be a big push, as i have a good memory.

It's equally likely mafia hit Mig because they wanna mislynch Sn0 than that Sn0 is mafia, so i consider that a null-tell.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:56 GMT
#2193
On January 23 2014 02:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
there is nothing there to argue, he has terrible reasons for voting Cephiro because sn0 was not the highest number on my list, he was tied with skanjab so it was not a sure thing. But this whole case assumes that I am scum so I don't know how you expect me to believe that.

No the case says:
"Koshi does not know which one of Vayne/Sn0 is mafia, but Koshi assumes Vayne is town and Sn0 is mafia and therefore wants to lynch Cephiro - which is bullshit".

I even said later on it's possible Sn0 and Koshi are both mafia and that's WHY Koshi wants to lynch Cephiro and not Sn0.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 17:58 GMT
#2194
I am not calling you mafia because of any fucking "did not die" or "association" bullshit.
Why are you saying so Vayne?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 18:07 GMT
#2199
Umm i don't believe you are mafia because Cephiro says so.. I don't think Cephiro is necessarily right in saying you are mafia, but i understand how he has reached to the conclusion. That does not make him right.

Right now i am only confident in my Koshi read and i really want all of Oats/Skan/Sno/you to contribute. You are doing so atm, so it's cool.
- Oats never says anything relevant on fucking anything said in the game.
- Skan is just being meh.. like "what's the case on this guy?", then says nothing..
- Sn0 just rages to everyone who accuses him and then leaves the thread, sadly that's exactly what always gets him lynched as town so i am trying to be reasonable with him.. not sure how long until i just decide he is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 22 2014 18:08 GMT
#2200
Actuall Sn0 has made some reasonable posts about Oats and Skan, my bad.
I really want to see what all of skan/Oats/Koshi have to say.
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