EPTOn January 09 2014 10:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
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Thats a pretty half hearted yay Thrawn ) : the y isn't even capitalized.
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Thats a pretty half hearted yay Thrawn ) : the y isn't even capitalized. | ||
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On January 09 2014 10:41 wherebugsgo wrote: Before I leave though I want to state that preliminarily I had thrawn as pretty likely to be town given that he actually took the time to look at a past game at Corazon's play, and quoted it, AND it actually made sense in light of his argument, AND at the time I saw myself potentially agreeing with what he said about how it made Corazon look townier. It was one of those "oh shit maybe we're making a mistake" moments for me, and I could totally understand any townie at that point using any information at his disposal to quell any internal doubts. But what do you think of how Cora was unwilling to fight with him? | ||
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On January 09 2014 10:41 thrawn2112 wrote: what does "XD" mean in internet speak? it means silliness, I dont think anyone but me is dumb enough to use it | ||
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On January 09 2014 10:40 thrawn2112 wrote: Hey gumshoe. Do you want to talk about anything? sure buddy ( : My problems arent really with you ) : youve played a pretty unremarkeble game, niether has Fuba or Wos, or me for that matter, that doesnt make you scum. Its mostly how Cora was interacting with you that bugged me. Would you say it was weird for Cora to try and buddy you? I mean, no offence but you weren't the most spectacular townie ) : He also started doing so at a time when not too much heat was on him, so I find it hard to believe that he was trying to implicate you right off the bat. What do you think of his unwillingness to attack you when he was so eager to bash almost anyone and everyone else? | ||
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On January 09 2014 10:55 thrawn2112 wrote: I never thought Cora was buddying me, it seemed like he was trying to avoid a real conversation. If he was unwilling to attack me it is because I was questioning him and he didn't want that to happen. So you say i weren't the most spectacular townie cool i'm town? wait no you're accusing me atm? Bieng unspectacular doesnt make you scum is what i said, it improves your odds though, I never said you were town 0_0 dont twist my words. The thing that makes you scum for certain are your interactions with Cora. Cora is never afraid of an argument, your argument is invalid, besides he did have a conversation with you, and he conducted it very civily in stark contrast to his other engagments, thats the problem. | ||
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On January 09 2014 10:51 gumshoe wrote: sure buddy ( : My problems arent really with you ) : youve played a pretty unremarkeble game, niether has Fuba or Wos, or me for that matter, that doesnt make you scum. Its mostly how Cora was interacting with you that bugged me. Would you say it was weird for Cora to try and buddy you? I mean, no offence but you weren't the most spectacular townie ) : He also started doing so at a time when not too much heat was on him, so I find it hard to believe that he was trying to implicate you right off the bat. What do you think of his unwillingness to attack you when he was so eager to bash almost anyone and everyone else? Please dont misunderstand that first line, your bieng a mediocre townie doesnt make you not scum, its just not enough to lynch you over fuba or even kush. So do you think he wasnt trying to implicate you via asociation? Whats the source of the calmness in your interactions then? | ||
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On January 09 2014 10:55 thrawn2112 wrote: If he was unwilling to attack me it is because I was questioning him and he didn't want that to happen. Im not one to one liner...(aww who am I kidding) LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | ||
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On January 09 2014 11:07 mkfuba07 wrote: Haha, you're funny. Which part of my filter indicates that I'm scum? None, because theres absolutely no filter to go on : P In all fairness, your no scummier than me ( : and besides I'm not talking to you right now, one lynch at a time friend, what do you think of Thrawn, and how do you feel about WBS still thinking yamato is scum after the Cora flip? | ||
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On January 09 2014 11:15 justanothertownie wrote: Bugs said yamato is not confirmed town by coras flip which is absolutely true. I didnt ask you. | ||
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On January 09 2014 11:17 thrawn2112 wrote: Here is what you said "Would you say it was weird for Cora to try and buddy you? I mean, no offence but you weren't the most spectacular townie" In the context of a scum play buddying a town player and being concerned with the skill, thread presence or sheepability of the town player, when you say I wasn't the most spectacular townie, your argument is implying I'm town. Why would Corazon try to buddy a scum mate who would have already been bussing him? I don't know what you're asking because I never thought he was buddying me nor do I see the consequence of that. Your argument is that I wasn't influential enough for Cor to want to buddy me, yet you think he buddied me, so I might be mafia? I will continue this after the next quote.. I don't think you are taking drama into account. Scum Corazon will be mad at townies and that can influence his scum play, he's a very emotional player. I like to think and hope that Corazon knows I don't care about any of the drama from banlist thread and all that, so that may be a reason why he was more civil with me than others. If you're concerned with the interaction between Corazon and Thrawn the only reason you can be concerned about that is because you want to know if Thrawn is scum. But right now I can't tell if that's what you want, because you have no questions for me besides this irrelevant argument and you don't seem to have read my filter and come to a conclusion about my alignme So what is your point? 1: Theres is no point buddying with an uninfluential TOWNIE, but there is a point to buddying with an uninfluential scum buddy (making them look good, which works so long as Cora doesnt get lynched, something niether of you were counting on considering you switched to yamato once things got serious against Cora) the point is, it makes no sense for him to buddy you if he was town, unless he was planning on dying in order to throw doubt on you. 2: Ok please dont make me account for banlist drama in my reads T_T 3: Oh I assure you, I KNOW that your scum XD 4: there is no real point to asking questions of you actually, because your scum and your not going to give me a)useful answers b) answers that result in your lynch. Also I have read your filter, and as I said, its unremarkable, but so is Fuba's, Kush's, and even Wos's, I can dive your filter but its not scummier than that of these guys, and yet a couple of you have to be town XD. Your filter makes you a candidate for lynch, your interactions with Cora make you scum. | ||
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In an ideal world, where every townie plays like a townie, the above can in fact be considered bullshit, unfortunately games like extractor trick mafia happen...where scum are townie than town... Basically just because a player is bad doesnt mean hes scum, scum ideally situate themselves somewhere in the middle of the pack, and I feel WOS has done just that. It was a gutread more than anything, similar to the Cora one XD it was also a day one read, and certainly not my finest. Well get back to him though, for now your my new ride : P | ||
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On January 09 2014 11:41 thrawn2112 wrote: 1. The only thing you want to talk to me, your top scumread about is the possibilty of me being scum, because you claim a scummate was fake-buddying me in order to trick the thread into thinking he was actually buddying me in a scummy attempt to give me town points? No, I'm not taking any of that seriously. 2. Yes you need to. The only thing you want to talk to me about is whether or not Corazon was buddying me. I give you a very good reason of why (although I disagree about him actually buddying me) he was being more civil with me than with others, and you choose to ignore it. 1: I dont really wanna talk to you, this goes no where, you wanted to talk to me : P 2: I didn't say he was fake buddying you, I think he was legit buddying you because he didnt wanna attack his scum partner. He was nicer to you than any other player in this game, although it was in a very understated yet noticeable way. This, plus your vote switch off him once things got series, plus you responses now, plus your crappy filter which I can go into if you insist, is why I think your scum. 3: No I fucking dont, keep that shiit out of here, this is such a dumb argument T_T also you cant have your cake and eat it to, either you dont think he was buddying you, or you think he was bieng nice to you cause banlist drama, the fact that you feel the need to defend yourself either way belies your need for security as a scum player. | ||
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On January 09 2014 11:48 thrawn2112 wrote: I have no idea what you're doing. You're not going to talk to me because I'm scum, you KNOW I'm scum, you're already voting for me, etc. But, "I can dive your filter but its not scummier than that of these guys, and yet a couple of you have to be town XD." So... after all that big talk about how sure you are of me being mafia, my filter is inconclusive? You say it's unremarkable without ever giving examples or explaining what you're talking about and that's why I think you're making this up. Why is it unremarkable? Do you know that I've talked with many people in the game? That I've been involved in many of the main discussions? That the thread was even focused on me for a small amount of time? Do you know that when people were wanting to policy lynch kush and Corazon, I spent a lot of time trying to steer all the policy lynchers onto Corazon? If you knew any of this, or found any of it alignment indicative you would have mentioned it. You aren't trying to figure out my alignment. and then, "your interactions with Cora make you scum" I don't know how that can actually be your main point against me. Your filter includes getting high and bieng retarded, jumping off and on Cora, and wanting to kill rayn 0_0. Not too to discuss when you can just excuse yourself for half the dumb shit you said, which is why I didn't really feel like talking about your filter in the first place, its dumb/irrelevant. Also your filter is scummy because its of no value and its been of harm, its just other peoples are scummy too. So why are you so special for me to focus on? Because the guy who flipped red, with a penchant for flipping out at people who accuse him refused to slander you... thats far from nothing, and more than enough for me to place you above a Fuba or Kush lynch. | ||
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On January 09 2014 11:55 thrawn2112 wrote: This is the main reason for your top scumread. This is the part of the game that you have put the most emphasis on. You claimed that this point "makes me scum" so yes, you actually do need to consider my response. This is something that should makes or break the read you claim to have. It is not a dumb argument, you asked why Cora wasn't being hostile towards me and it's because I've made efforts to get along with him while many people haven't lately. That's a good explanation! You can't just pretend it shouldn't effect your read because it's "dumb." Sigh, ban list regular and banlist 2.0 literally has NO mention of your name, it's something you have quite literally not at all been involved in. As of now your argument is that you not at all bieng involved in the banlist drama earns you special favour despite the fact that Cora has attacked several players (myself included) who also have had nothing to do with the banlist this game. Your argument is dumb / : | ||
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On January 09 2014 12:03 mkfuba07 wrote: What if Cora had said nothing at all in response to thrawn's accusations? Then we wouldn't be having this conversation right now would we? | ||
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On January 09 2014 12:02 thrawn2112 wrote: If you're town then reason you think my play has been so shitty is because I only played shitty for a few hours and you were afk most of the rest of the cycle. I think I was actually a net positive for town. I did end up voting incorrectly but I spent a lot of time steering people towards corazon and attacking other lynches that I don't think would have gone as well. You're resorting to ad hominem instead of providing examples of why you think my filter looks bad, when it honestly doesn't. Why do you say kush is scum? I was afk cause I was sick and didnt feel like making an excuse in chat then leaving for a day anyways. My absence itself was a null influence, you chose to blaze up before the game started, made stupid statements and bad accusations, and then got to take it all back... overall I consider your dark period to be the worse of the two. Also your really not the reason Cora got lynched, and if you were somehow so influential, why wasn't yamato lynched instead when you switched onto him XD. In my eyes, your switch the moment things got serius for the Cora lynch at the very least invalidates any good will you earned by attacking Cora. | ||
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On January 09 2014 12:09 thrawn2112 wrote: Corazon and I were in BttB, which was a shitfest where almost everyone was mad at everyone. Then the banlist crap happened when many people from and not from that game got into a fight with Corazon, which I avoided. He's cohosting a game I'm running soon. This is so dumb because even if you can somehow prove that Corazon had no reason to buddy a town-me it doesn't help you at all. This is the main point of your case and your point is so convoluted, wifomy, and stupid that I'm not taking any of it seriously. My point is this, the scum player under a little pressure felt extremely reluctant to attack his scum buddy... so he came off as friendly to him. The player in question is pretty terrible, and has been of almost no use, even now your just defending yourself, and not even bothering to find scum 0_0 why are you arguing with me? You havent changed my mind and I dont think you will, so unless you wanna build a case against me talk to some one else. Also what I am doing is not Wifom, I found an abnormal relation between you and scum and I am following up on that. What you are doing (refrencing the fucking banlist drama to explain why cora was nice to you as a scum player) is wifom XD | ||
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On January 09 2014 12:16 thrawn2112 wrote: calling someone scummy for wanting to get high more than they want to play mafia is ridiculous Please answer me about kush. Someone saying dumb shit that throws town off, then taking it all back... thats scummy. Also Kush, One liners... One liners everywhere, though I was scum without providing a reason, switched to cheescake last second before lynch, no real substance to his posts. Just an overall meh. Still, at least Cora had no problem hating on Kush. Are you really saying that I am going to be more useless than Kush, CC, fuba, gumshoe, Artanis, and Yamato? | ||
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On January 09 2014 12:21 WaveofShadow wrote: Awww I was just gonna go all WTF on gumshoe trying to lump me into the same boat as him and fuba.  And it's funny because I still think fuba is town. Wos, I swear, I literally have nothing on you XD I just feel your scum, dont hate me T_T | ||
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