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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On December 11 2013 12:49 sandroba wrote: @jay can you do us a favor and role claim please? If you did it already I somehow missed it. I tried picking lux and im VT and I have previously claimed | ||
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jaybrundage
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On December 11 2013 10:41 Mocsta wrote: I proposed kush or lsb as suitable targets. Lsb is more valuable as he isn't a vt. everywhere scumslips | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
The major reason why I think jaybrundage is scum is due to his day two play. And his odd push on Austinmcc and drawing the heat off of MZ The strangest part of jaybrundage's play is what he did during the day two lynch. Instead of focusing on major lynch targets who were being suspected of scum, he tried to focus town discussion on Austinmcc and Roffles, two lurkers On December 07 2013 10:12 jaybrundage wrote: KK lets talk on consolidating on Roffles or austin. If your town you should get off the MZ wagon. Letting there be three wagons lets scum manipulate it much easier. We should narrow this down between 2 people. I'm still on the fence regarding the two. But MZ should NOT be a lynch candidate today. This is pretty suspicious, no only because a vote between two lurkers is not a very informative discussion (it just boils down to a this person is lurking harder than the other), but really jaybrundage shows he really doesn't care about who gets lynched day 2. Consider the tone between these two posts On December 05 2013 14:43 jaybrundage wrote: Im a bit annoyed because you don't seem to be trying. Your case on austin seems nonexistent. Hes a lurker you asked him a question and you called him scum. My only thinking that you could have any validity to your case on austin is if you have a blue roll that gives you a check. But even then it would have been in the day time and that seems unlikely. Please try..... Plz? On December 07 2013 10:17 jaybrundage wrote: Fuck it lets kill Austin. He should give us way more information. Because he made more reads (even if there town reads) as opposed to roffles who has said jack shit. We should just take care of Roffles via KP. He is lurking hardcore and he is playing anti town as shit. His death gives us nothing to go off of. I wouldn't be surprised if austin and Roffles are both on scum team. And they send roffles out to be a distraction to both get heat off austin and if we lynch austin its unlikely we will lynch roffles because the stereotype is that hes just a anti town trolling townie instead of a scum making plays. ##Unvote ##VOTE AUSTINMCC Although Jaybrundage doesn't outright say it. He really doesn't care about the current lynch, in fact his major reasons for the lynch are 1) Austin gave out a lot of town reads (pretty hypocritical considering how many townreads Jaybrundage threw out himself). 2) Austin will give out a lot of 'valuable information' Information lynches are horrible because they are a misnomer, they don't give out any information at all. If Ausitn is town, no information is gleaned. If Austin is scum no information is gleaned. It is all to likely that the town is misguided or the mafia is bussed. In addition Jaybrundage misrepresented Austin's filter, austin got in trouble not because of all his town reads, but rather how he went around doing his scum reads. To call Austin's filter a mess of town reads is not just an over-exaggeration it is a complete misrepresentation. This is very indicative of forcing analysis and suggests he has an alternative agenda Indeed Jaybrundage has a lot of difficulty in saying why austin is scum, most of his points rely on the so called information that can be gained from lynching austin (and what information is that now that austin has flipped?). What he is more interested in is defending Meepak_Ziphh Even in his case against austin he can't but help go on a long tangent about why Meepak is town On December 07 2013 10:54 jaybrundage wrote: Yea just finished reading MZ's filter I think that hes probably town he sounds sincere in alot of his posts. And austin is scum. Part of the reason why I think austin is scum is the first part of the game He SOLELY (hyberbole) gives town reads. He gives town read after town read after town read. This is very easy for scum to do. They know who's town so they can go off little things in posts to try to establish rap with other townies. (if he thinks im town he must be town reading me line of thinking) He then harps on MZ for bothering Koshi. Yes MZ is constantly bugging Koshi. I think the reason for MZ's tunneling Koshi is a couple reasons. A. MZ thinks Koshi might be scum. B. Koshi is inventor so he can make sweet stuff that ideally would be given to townies. C. Koshi being inventor IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE D. Koshi is not contributing much to scum hunting E Koshi being scum in MZ's eyes and is being ignored as a lynch candidate because of his Power Is driving MZcrazy and makes it keep coming back to Koshi to put pressure on him. That is my idea why MZ kept bothering Koshi even tho hes not a lynch candidate atm. I think this is the real reason why Jaybrundage wanted to lynch austin. He wants to draw the heat away from Meepak_Ziphh. However he tries to do it indirectly by forcing a lynch on Austin and in doing so demonstrates that he is forcing a lynch, as well as demonstrating that he doesn't care about the lynch in the first place. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 11 2013 12:33 Mocsta wrote: Known DMG Ticklish: >101 dmg (down 749/850) VE: > 700 dmg (down 300/1000) Fuba: > 450dmg (down 400/850) Rean: ??? Mocsta: 150 dmg JL: 500 dmg (250 from sandroba; 125 from Mig, 125 from ?Fuba?) MZ: 150dmg (may have 75 from sandroba) MZ/Rean/Roffles/LSB: 75dmg (from sandroba) JAT: KP --> ??? I took no damage, and from how sandroba phrases it it is distributed completely at random | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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sandroba
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
LOL Even if I was put at gun point and forced to even consider the notion that you are town, we get the following: On December 10 2013 19:19 kushm4sta wrote: anyone else seeing the light on this mocsta thing? after i found him out 95% of his posts turn to shitposts. His entire posting style changed. Read his filter plz. If you were town: this post is the definition of confirmation biased. You could argue your interpretation of my filter changed as context in the game developed. But, this never happens. Because you are scum: this post is the definition of a discredit campaign. Because again, you shit on my name and provide nothing to back it up other than weak arguments that have been easily refuted. Yelling out something is a "scum slip"; does not make it a "scum slip". So I get to the simple solution (1) You are scum --> I am right about you, JL, LSB (2) I assume: I was shot with remaining scum KP (hopefully this will be confirmed by dmg claims) I'm done with this. JL can be finished with KP. You're next. ##Vote: TushMasta-b8r | ||
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sandroba
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
Do you agree your case hinges on MZ being scum? | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
(that's me i'm the tank minion and i didn't take damage last night) | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On December 11 2013 13:07 sandroba wrote: @mocsta slow down. LSB does have a point and we need to sort out this JC->JB deal. I dont get the lantern thing either because Im sure JC said he had to chuck it during day cycle as well (which is why he gave it to rayn day1) | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On December 11 2013 13:09 gtrsrs wrote: tank minion rolls on down mid lane, taking no damage, giving no damns (that's me i'm the tank minion and i didn't take damage last night) Matey, You said you were short on time, so I suggested I pass on scummy reads for you to filter. Still up for that deal? If so, can you please have a read of Kush + JayBrundage (and LSB if you have time0 | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
i will do kush, jaybrundage, and LSB i'll be back home in an hour and have some business, then expect an hour's worth of time analyzing so i should be done around midnight (4 hours) | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
On December 11 2013 13:08 Mocsta wrote: @LSB Do you agree your case hinges on MZ being scum? hmm re-read it. The position is interesting actually even though I still think its association based. Some of that stuff is hard to imagine a townie taking such a strong position for an unflipped player (i.e. JayB regarding MZ) | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 11 2013 13:08 Mocsta wrote: @LSB Do you agree your case hinges on MZ being scum? Not necessarily but it highly suggests that MZ is scum. It would make a lot less sense if MZ is town, though JB actions are still very suspicious. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
I'll go thru dissecting your case. I'll be using red ink CAUSE FUCK THE META. BAD LSB CASE On December 11 2013 12:56 LSB wrote: Yeah I'm gonna finger jaybrundage as my mafia candidate. The major reason why I think jaybrundage is scum is due to his day two play. And his odd push on Austinmcc and drawing the heat off of MZ The strangest part of jaybrundage's play is what he did during the day two lynch. Instead of focusing on major lynch targets who were being suspected of scum, he tried to focus town discussion on Austinmcc and Roffles, two lurkers You say I didn't focus on the major lynch candidates there was 3 major lynch candidates and I tried to focus on two of them. So your point is illogical here. What you meant so say was I didn't focus discussion on MZ. Which is correct out of the three candidates I believed he had the biggest chance out of them to flip town. Also not sure if you can classify austin as a lurker he was posting more then lurker status compared to others in this town. On December 07 2013 10:12 jaybrundage wrote: KK lets talk on consolidating on Roffles or austin. If your town you should get off the MZ wagon. Letting there be three wagons lets scum manipulate it much easier. We should narrow this down between 2 people. I'm still on the fence regarding the two. But MZ should NOT be a lynch candidate today. This is pretty suspicious, no only because a vote between two lurkers is not a very informative discussion (it just boils down to a this person is lurking harder than the other), but really jaybrundage shows he really doesn't care about who gets lynched day 2. If I didn't care why would I try so hard to take the lynch off of MZ. You need to make up your mind. Do I not care about the lynch or am I trying to protect my (in your eyes) scum buddy. Consider the tone between these two posts On December 05 2013 14:43 jaybrundage wrote: Im a bit annoyed because you don't seem to be trying. Your case on austin seems nonexistent. Hes a lurker you asked him a question and you called him scum. My only thinking that you could have any validity to your case on austin is if you have a blue roll that gives you a check. But even then it would have been in the day time and that seems unlikely. Please try..... Plz? On December 07 2013 10:17 jaybrundage wrote: Fuck it lets kill Austin. He should give us way more information. Because he made more reads (even if there town reads) as opposed to roffles who has said jack shit. We should just take care of Roffles via KP. He is lurking hardcore and he is playing anti town as shit. His death gives us nothing to go off of. I wouldn't be surprised if austin and Roffles are both on scum team. And they send roffles out to be a distraction to both get heat off austin and if we lynch austin its unlikely we will lynch roffles because the stereotype is that hes just a anti town trolling townie instead of a scum making plays. ##Unvote ##VOTE AUSTINMCC Although Jaybrundage doesn't outright say it. He really doesn't care about the current lynch, in fact his major reasons for the lynch are 1) Austin gave out a lot of town reads (pretty hypocritical considering how many townreads Jaybrundage threw out himself). 2) Austin will give out a lot of 'valuable information' 1. I GAVE OUT MANY TOWNREADS???? Now your just making shit up. I gave Rean a town read early day 1 cause of his Doublelift impressions and how geniune and carefree they were and I was right btw. The only other town reads I gave out was late day 1 cause VE was pressuring me to give out my reads and he gave me Mocsta and MZ's filter to read. And I stated I thought both appeared townie. 3 reads out of 30 And two of them forced. Please don't bullshit in cases. 2.Between Austin and Roffles my thinking was that we could see more connects between players with Austin who had alot more content in the thread then roffles who hadn't said and still hasn't said jack shit. Information lynches are horrible because they are a misnomer, they don't give out any information at all. If Ausitn is town, no information is gleaned. If Austin is scum no information is gleaned. It is all to likely that the town is misguided or the mafia is bussed. In addition Jaybrundage misrepresented Austin's filter, austin got in trouble not because of all his town reads, but rather how he went around doing his scum reads. Woah Woah Woah Reading thru Austin's filter I saw a shit load of town read's which is very easy for scum to replicate as they know who's town and can call it out with out having to give any good reasons. This was MY analysis of Austins filter. I can have my own reasons for voting Austin. Are you really trying stating that everyone should just parrot and sheep the original cases. WTF? To call Austin's filter a mess of town reads is not just an over-exaggeration it is a complete misrepresentation. Again MY analysis This is very indicative of forcing analysis and suggests he has an alternative agenda Indeed Jaybrundage has a lot of difficulty in saying why austin is scum, most of his points rely on the so called information that can be gained from lynching austin (and what information is that now that austin has flipped?). What he is more interested in is defending Meepak_Ziphh See we can agree on this. I thought MZ had the greatest chance to flip town so I defended my heart out. Could I be wrong? Yes. But if I think someone is a townie I fight with conviction to keep them off the block. (This can go bad occasionally tho in a past game I hard defended scum and when he got found out I got mislynched as town, hopefully not the case this game) Even in his case against austin he can't but help go on a long tangent about why Meepak is town Your misrepresenting me I posted reasons for austin being scum. And then I posted reasons why I think MZ is town. It wasn't just a case on austin. The intention was to give reasons why I thought Austin was scum, and give reasons I thought MZ was town. On December 07 2013 10:54 jaybrundage wrote: Yea just finished reading MZ's filter I think that hes probably town he sounds sincere in alot of his posts. And austin is scum. Part of the reason why I think austin is scum is the first part of the game He SOLELY (hyberbole) gives town reads. He gives town read after town read after town read. This is very easy for scum to do. They know who's town so they can go off little things in posts to try to establish rap with other townies. (if he thinks im town he must be town reading me line of thinking) He then harps on MZ for bothering Koshi. Yes MZ is constantly bugging Koshi. I think the reason for MZ's tunneling Koshi is a couple reasons. A. MZ thinks Koshi might be scum. B. Koshi is inventor so he can make sweet stuff that ideally would be given to townies. C. Koshi being inventor IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE D. Koshi is not contributing much to scum hunting E Koshi being scum in MZ's eyes and is being ignored as a lynch candidate because of his Power Is driving MZcrazy and makes it keep coming back to Koshi to put pressure on him. That is my idea why MZ kept bothering Koshi even tho hes not a lynch candidate atm. I think this is the real reason why Jaybrundage wanted to lynch austin. He wants to draw the heat away from Meepak_Ziphh. However he tries to do it indirectly Again Bullshit I hard defended MZ there was nothing indirect about it. I defended MZ and wanted to lynch Austin. by forcing a lynch on Austin and in doing so demonstrates that he is forcing a lynch, as well as demonstrating that he doesn't care about the lynch in the first place. Again This makes no sense I can't not care about the lynch but also want to save MZ. Your case is all over the place and has contradicting statements. Do I not care about the lynch. Or Do I care about the lynch and am redirecting the lynch to save (in your eyes) my scum buddy MZ) /BAD LSB CASE | ||
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jaybrundage
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Risen
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