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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On November 21 2013 07:03 VayneAuthority wrote: Koshi you already subconsciously pointed out what I am, I find it hilarious that it hasn't registered for you yet Well you kinda claimed something earlier that might be why you are interested in the game as town. But really I have 0 clues what you exactly are talking about. | ||
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VayneAuthority
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OOHCHILD
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OOHCHILD
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Koshi
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VayneAuthority
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On November 21 2013 07:20 VayneAuthority wrote: How do you know im not scum kush? Keep in mind he says you are not scum, not necessarily town though  | ||
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VayneAuthority
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OOHCHILD
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 21 2013 07:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: The case isn't purely based on that. Also, he was coaching that game. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume people read games they coached in.austin i don't like your case on thrawn at all. It seems to be based on some old game thrawn in your opinion should have read but didn't. Isn't that pretty weak? Look at the way he treats my lack of reads, both the difference between his IMMEDIATE reaction and his later reaction. Then look at the difference between how he treats my lack of reads and pandain's lack of reads. To me, those things indicate that he's not actually working the game out, because he's reacting ... incorrectly? Or differently, to situations that are similar. (A and B are scumreads. A and B both do a thing you find scummy. For A, it's rainbows but then wait, no, it's scummy. For B, it's otay). Beyond that, regardless of whether he actually read/remembers Newbie 37, look at the difference between his reaction to BC's meta-argument and ... say Mig. Mig looks through mocsta's filter, to see if BC is pulling out only what he wants to. Mig concludes that mocsta attacked way more people than BC says, and calls BC out on it. He critically attacks BC's argument. Thrawn 100% agrees with BC's meta-argument. He does not appear to look for other instances of mocsta angry/insulting this game, from what we see. He does not appear to look for other instances of scum-mocsta and see whether or not BC is just cherry-picking a game/certain arguments. Granted, A WHOLE FRIGGIN LOT OF PEOPLE seem to have blindly accepted or dismissed BC's argument without looking critically at it (Personality 2 was themed, in Personality 2 we were supposed to be imitating other people, Personality 2 was a flawless victory for mafia so unsure if it's 100% indicative of how mafia would act in a normal game, etc., yet Personality is the one and only scummmocsta game used for comparison). But thrawn was already on my watch list, and the way that he reacted to BC's mocsta/grack stuff felt different than anyone else's reaction to it. If BC is mafia, then I think both the different reactions to Pandain/I, the way he was initially questioning me, and the fact that he reacted differently to hypothetically-mafia-BC's grack/mocsta stuff than anyone else at the time all indicate he da mafia. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On November 21 2013 07:25 OOHCHILD wrote: nah vayne it's just when noobs are arrogant that pisses off my sense of justice you are a noob in every sense of the word so you must piss off yourself a lot then | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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OOHCHILD
United States570 Posts
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OOHCHILD
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On November 21 2013 07:36 OOHCHILD wrote: rayn can you explain to me wtf is going on with grack.. Grack lied in thread. Coag called Grack on his lie. Grack said oh shit you actually read the thread wtf. Hilarity ensued. Grack just got himself lynched tomorrow 100%. Whether he's scum or just stupid remains to be seen. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I have to agree i did not really care about BC's meta-reference of Mocsta and it might be i should have looked more closely into it. I also agree it's weird thrawn seems to be thinking BC is the towniest of the vet group. I have no idea why he thinks so. hmm.. I disagree with your/Pandain's lack of reads. I have no idea what you are referring to but thrawn thinks you are both scum, and tbh Pandain has given out reads pre-N2 and you did not. That's a fact, you had zero scumreads besides a weak read on some lurker i don't even remember and a scumread on me which you told HF not to follow. I also disagree with that thrawn should have looked into some old games. I know a lot of people do not remember old games, even from last month. I hate that because i know i do remember them (as you seem to aswell), i could probably give quite accurate playerlist from LoTR mafia from 2011 and the happenings each phase, but really.. most people don't. I don't think that isa good reason to accuse someone. If it was the last game or even close to present, it could be a reason. In this instance i think it's kinda reaching. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 21 2013 07:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Past games is fine, I do tend to remember them heavily.Austin: I have to agree i did not really care about BC's meta-reference of Mocsta and it might be i should have looked more closely into it. I also agree it's weird thrawn seems to be thinking BC is the towniest of the vet group. I have no idea why he thinks so. hmm.. I disagree with your/Pandain's lack of reads. I have no idea what you are referring to but thrawn thinks you are both scum, and tbh Pandain has given out reads pre-N2 and you did not. That's a fact, you had zero scumreads besides a weak read on some lurker i don't even remember and a scumread on me which you told HF not to follow. I also disagree with that thrawn should have looked into some old games. I know a lot of people do not remember old games, even from last month. I hate that because i know i do remember them (as you seem to aswell), i could probably give quite accurate playerlist from LoTR mafia from 2011 and the happenings each phase, but really.. most people don't. I don't think that isa good reason to accuse someone. If it was the last game or even close to present, it could be a reason. In this instance i think it's kinda reaching. Thrawn does think we're both scum. Couple things though - I think that if you look at players I mentioned as scummy. Not called out super heavily and said HEY VE LYNCH THIS GUY LYNCH THIS GUY, but if you look through my filter and my mason chat, you can identify people I found scummy - cheesecake, BC, LM, and you. You're considering, as like 3 of your top couple reads, BC, LM, and myself. Which I find odd, given that two of the people I was really pushing for reads on, and actually GAVE scummy reads on, were BC and LM on D1. But that's a side matter. I'm fine if you want to discount not remembering past games well, I couldn't tell you what others did in that game, except for a few people that were actively seeking coaching, but I remember specifically that there was a newbie in which mocsta was scum and shat all over the thread. So the no remembering is fine. But his reaction to BC throughout is wonky. As far as pandain and I, i'm not arguing we're different. I'm saying Thrawn's response to my lack of reads and his response to pandain's lack of reads were different. Same conduct, from two scumreads, but a different REACTION from thrawn towards that. I interpret that as him making reads up, because his reaction to the same/similar conduct should be same/similar, given that we were both scumreads of his. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On November 21 2013 07:47 thrawn2112 wrote: Hey thrawn!hi austin Can you talk to me/us about your BC read? | ||
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