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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 26 2013 16:56 GMT
#4412
hmmmm.

mYybe we should votenbh instead of chair???
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 26 2013 17:00 GMT
#4414
worse tuning is.

assuming the onrgu is town, the rb on BH and cr did nothing.
if BH is scum in this scenario, I expected him to do the nk.


the other hand is, BH or Cr was roleblockrd and onegh is now countering with vet claim. I.e onegu is scum... I find this unlikely as I would expect a fake cc like this to go hand in hand with a counter for elsewhere...

whereas onegu is more just stating an occurrence.


p.s.hopeless potion did as he described... again, I think his potion abilities are null..l that is,good for town or sdum..

I wonder why hopeless did not want me to do nightnaction on him?????
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 27 2013 00:43 GMT
#4428
On October 27 2013 06:01 Chairman Ray wrote:
Question for BH and Sn0, are you guys allowed to use your powers on yourself, or on the same person two nights in a row?

lol....

who's scum dipshit
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 27 2013 11:50 GMT
#4440
On October 27 2013 20:08 syllogism wrote:
Now that I think more about N2 actions, I think mafia may have tried to shoot sn0 and Mocsta roleblocking BH stopped the shot. BH claimed that he RNG protected sn0 on n1, so as a non-conseq medic he couldn't do it again on n2. Awfully convenient.

Do you want to lynch BH before CR?

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 27 2013 23:05 GMT
#4520
rayn. days ago you promised a reread of the whole game.

what is the outcome?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 00:10 GMT
#4522
On October 28 2013 08:43 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
rayn. days ago you promised a reread of the whole game.

what is the outcome?

I didn't do it yet.

-rayn

Well, you just earned my vote tomorrow.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 01:03 GMT
#4524
On October 28 2013 09:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 09:10 Mocsta wrote:
On October 28 2013 08:43 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On October 28 2013 08:05 Mocsta wrote:
rayn. days ago you promised a reread of the whole game.

what is the outcome?

I didn't do it yet.

-rayn

Well, you just earned my vote tomorrow.


So from cr/skanjabs straight to rayn? Not sure i follow your train of thought, especially without a case.

Fair enough. More to follow shortly.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 01:19 GMT
#4525
On October 18 2013 14:20 Mattchew wrote:
Ravenclaw:
Onegu, <VET>
Syllo <JOAT/I.C.>
LastArgument - Mason

Tunkeg - Rolecop
Supersoft - VT
Yamato - VT


huffle: <Red Check - 1 scum>
StorrZerg - Vampire JOAT,
Palmar - Dayvig
Mattchew - House Cop

HolyFlare <Voter>
Hopeless <Potions>
Grack <VT>

slytherin:
Mocsta - JOAT
EchelonTee - Day/Night vig/Lover
blazinghand <Medic>
I-Be-Pro - Lover
sn0_man - <Medic>

skanjabs1s <Unknown>

Gryff: <Red Check - 2 scum (inc. Pandain)>
Cephiro - Global Mason/Voter
Pandain - JOAT
VayneAuthority - VT
raynpelikonoshi <Candy man>
Stutters695 - Mason
justanothertownie <Randomer>


Unlike Rayn: I will commence my re-read of the game.

FYI, I will be using the context above as I read.
i.e. I am short cutting by assuming JAT and Sn0 and Syllo are town.



Without a re-read: I am heavily leaning towards Onegu claiming the *truth*
So my current hypothetis is: Rayn + Grack/Holyflare + (by PoE) Skanjab/Blazinghand. Will detail more after re-read.


Some questions running in my mind pre re-read:

(1) If BH is scum; and scum assume Sn0 protects BH. Why not shoot Sn0?
A (BH scum) N2: I RB the shooter (BH), N3: Sn0 kept alive to give cover for BH (Onegu shot???)
B (BH scum) N2: I RB the shooter (BH), N3: I RB the shooter (BH), Onegu decides to fake, his outted claim
C (BH scum) N2: JAT shot (as invulnerable?), N3: Sn0 kept alive to give cover for BH (Onegu shot???)
D (BH town) N2: JAT shot (as invulnerable?), N3: scum assume Sn0 protect BH and vice-versa (Onegu shot???)
E (BH town) Scum want BH lynched, and can then shoot Sn0 with no fear?
F <Random situation regarding role powers that we don't have enough information to guess>


(2) IF Syllo was not innocent child, would I lynch him?
Unfortunately I would give this very serious consideration. Every mislynch, Syllo keeps stating "ohh yeah, I had a town read on him" its getting annoying now. Either way, if Syllo *was* a scum role capable of having a false "innocent child" announcement, it would HAVE to be on a temporary basis. That Syllo is innocent child for so many cycles, he must be town. Perhaps we are not providing him enough support to solve the game?

(3) Why did Hopeless1der want to ensure I could not target him with night actions?
I do not understand this one bit; and if anything, makes me lean scummier on Hopeless1der by default.
Everyone knows I am town, so what is his concern if used night actions on him... why not try and block scum using KP on him?

(4) Powers seem unbalanced
(From flips)
VT: 4
Mason: 2
JOAT: 2 (1 town, 1 scum) - 1 town JOAT is uber (Vampire), where is counter?
Cop: 2 (1 town house, 1 scum role)
Voter: 2 (1 town with mason, 1 ???)
Vig: 2 (1 town, 1 scum)
Lover: 2 (1 town, 1 scum)

Its all balanced so far

(Using thread claims)
VT: 4 + 1 (from Grack)
Mason: 2
JOAT: 4 (1 town, 1 scum) + 2 town
Cop: 2 (1 town house, 1 scum role)
Voter: 2 (1 town with mason, 1 ???)
Vig: 2 (1 town, 1 scum)
Lover: 2 (1 town, 1 scum)
Medic: 2 (1 town + ???)
Vet: 1 (1 town)
Weird: 3 (1 town + 2 ???) (JAT/ Rayn candy / Hopeless potion)
Unknown: 1

Its not balanced anymore. 3 town JOATs is quite OP, so there has to be a scum counter measure.
Gracks VT claim could make sense if Skanjab is a VT, but this is unknown.
2 Medics + Vet also appears unbalanced.

(5) Why was Onegu shot?
Who was safe: Mocsta, JAT, Syllo, (possibly Sn0/BH)
Remaining pool of players to be shot: Grack, Rayn, Onegu, CR, Skanjab, Hopeless1der, Holyflare

Rayn wouldnt be shot because of red check (whether town or scum)
CR wouldnt be shot as was the next mislynch
Holyflare is unlikely as is another mislynch option.
Skanjab has been totally useless so is another mislynch option.

Onegu was pretty useless but was not a mislynch option.
Hopeless1der was pretty useless but was not a mislynch option.
Grack seemed like the best shot.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 02:17 GMT
#4537
Rayn just gave himself away as scum.

He's cornered and hoping to scare me away with aggression tactics.

Nuh nuh
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 02:29 GMT
#4538
On October 28 2013 10:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 05:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 20 2013 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
Going to do an analysis on these events when I have the time. There are some people that come out looking scummy from these kills.

Holyflare did this ever come to fruition?





In response to 5) Mocsta, shooting into the checked houses seems like it'd be bad for scum (i.e. shooting me or grack for example)
In response to 3), we don't know how faction KP is assigned, and preventing one player in particular doesnt prevent the other two. I know your role is detrimental to me. However, in this line of reasoning I'd like to know whether Holyflare has an answer to the question he asked me:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 13:39 Holyflare wrote:
Why would you give that to mocsta and not someone scummy?

Because I don't know a player who is both scummy and has a role that can mess with me.

The house check logic for 3 is valid.

This means the pool of players to be shot was
Onegu, skanjab and blszinghand.

Bh is not an option due to medic protect and/or scum.

Between skanjab and onegu. If both were town I would probably shoot onegu.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 02:47 GMT
#4541
On October 28 2013 11I0 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
thb i havn't give a shit about this game and probably won't, because all this game has been is running aroung powers, house checks and confirmed innocents. And Mocsta you are dumb. I don't give a shit if you lynch me because town deserves to lose this game anyways as noone is doing anything useful besides someone blocking scum shots.

I might post something today.

-rayn

Post game. But I agree.

Maybe im dumb but there's. Nothing to work with.
Dem towns gotta pull the finger out of their asses.

I gueiss I been waiting for syllo to solve this game bit a few cycles now. It's not happening, so I gotta try n do it myself.

If u were town I would have expected the same conclusion.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 03:06 GMT
#4546
I forgot Sno can't conseq save....
Interesting, so bh could def be shot. Def makes the vet claim look staged then. Onegu is a much worse kill over town bh.

Doing my reread anyways now.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 03:08 GMT
#4548
So we saying
Lynch bh and save me the chorre of a re read?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 03:08 GMT
#4550
On October 28 2013 12:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Grackaroni was roleblocked N3 or took 0.5KP damage.

-rayn

He did not release which option it randomed?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 03:10 GMT
#4554
On October 28 2013 12:08 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch onegu imo, saves us a medic if wrong, confirms if right.

In got

Onegu was clearly town in pm and was lynch bait in thread.


Syllo thinks onegu is town because of qt.
Do u really think onegu could trick syllo??
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 03:20 GMT
#4558
On October 28 2013 12:16 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2013 12:10 Mocsta wrote:
On October 28 2013 12:08 Holyflare wrote:
Lynch onegu imo, saves us a medic if wrong, confirms if right.

Ingot

Onegu was clearly town in pm and was lynch bait in thread.


Syllo thinks onegu is town because of qt.
Do u really think onegu could trick syllo??

If syllo is trying as hard in house QT as he is in thread probably anyone could fool him. No offence to anyone but this thread could probably be fooled by three [insert some really bad scumplayer name here] atm.

How about we actually start playing tomorrow? I promise to try more aswell as mods threw Koshi in the trashcan with candy.
I'll also stop signing my posts since it's only me anymore.

Actually.... This post makes a lot of sense to me.

Syllo dorsnt give a shit which is why I commented on him before too.

I like the direction this is going so far.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 03:27 GMT
#4560
I can't get over hopless giving me that potion.

His explanation doesn't cut it for me either.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 03:27 GMT
#4561
Onegu/bh/hopeless1der

As 3some?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 03:30 GMT
#4562
Lol
I prob rb bh from using deathly.Hallows 2 nights in a row.


Grack has to be town.
Pandain entry first thing seems more like scum Tami g advantage of easy way to feign contribution with something he believed in.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
October 28 2013 03:40 GMT
#4567
The question is then whether to use self prot tonight or redirection.

Really need jat to come through with vig role tonight.

Hopefully syllo has another rb, if so, should do bh again haha
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