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raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 10:36 GMT
#2901
Also, we are indecisive about BH. rayn thinks he is town though. Don't know why.
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 14:14 GMT
#2902
Do we like the idea that when Vayne flips scum it was because Hosts didn't want to replace 4 scummers this game?
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 22 2013 14:26 GMT
#2903
BH as doc makes sense and its risky for mafia because he has to explain why he is alive and why prominent townies are dying off.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 22 2013 14:27 GMT
#2904
On October 22 2013 23:14 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Do we like the idea that when Vayne flips scum it was because Hosts didn't want to replace 4 scummers this game?

Nope.
Don't game the host.

That was proven in Noir with Kitamin.

If people are scum, its because of how they played; not because they replaced.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 22 2013 14:28 GMT
#2905
On October 22 2013 23:26 Grackaroni wrote:
BH as doc makes sense and its risky for mafia because he has to explain why he is alive and why prominent townies are dying off.

Or.... mafia realise its essentially game over, and now just trying to fuck with town as much as they can for some form of dignity.

How is that any more far fetched than what you were assuming with Skanjab prior?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
October 22 2013 14:31 GMT
#2906
On October 22 2013 23:28 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 23:26 Grackaroni wrote:
BH as doc makes sense and its risky for mafia because he has to explain why he is alive and why prominent townies are dying off.

Or.... mafia realise its essentially game over, and now just trying to fuck with town as much as they can for some form of dignity.

How is that any more far fetched than what you were assuming with Skanjab prior?

No.
raynpelikonoshi
Profile Joined October 2013
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
October 22 2013 14:32 GMT
#2907
I like gaming the host. But it has never ever worked in my favor though.

YET
Koshi & raynpelikoneet hydra
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 14:53 GMT
#2908
Read up to this point.

I dislike skanjab but I liked mocsta's reasoning for him being town. I'm interested in the vayne flip. I stand by the stutters swap being better than the CR lynch regardless of outcome, although the secret vote DOES look ugly. Currently I'm attributing it to cephiro but who knows.

Don't THINK BH is scum atm but his window of opportunity for being more obviously town is slipping fast.
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 22 2013 14:56 GMT
#2909
So Holyfire at 02:28 KR time you said that you were at a lecture and would only be posting sporadically. Fine, but any particular reason why your next post is 8 hours later (10:40 KR)?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 22 2013 15:02 GMT
#2910
On October 22 2013 23:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
Read up to this point.

I dislike skanjab but I liked mocsta's reasoning for him being town. I'm interested in the vayne flip. I stand by the stutters swap being better than the CR lynch regardless of outcome, although the secret vote DOES look ugly. Currently I'm attributing it to cephiro but who knows.

Don't THINK BH is scum atm but his window of opportunity for being more obviously town is slipping fast.

yeah looked at lastargument filter + supersoft

supersoft was most likely a respect kill

lastargument was on lonemeow, mattchew + holyflare

aside from storr thinking mattchew is town, there does not seem to be too much going for him?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2013 15:06 GMT
#2911
Takes me 2 hours on tube which has no signal on it, 4 hours travel and 4 hours of lectures. My phone also ran out of battery so i couldn't do anything, although i did steal an ipad but it got stolen back. Then when i get home it's 10pm and i ate because it was after deadline. Want a minute by minute breakdown? What would be the point of me intentionally afking on a lynch for a townie?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 22 2013 15:08 GMT
#2912
We don't know if he is a townie and mafia loves leaving their votes on someone who isn't getting lynched. But yes, I don't understand why you would park your vote there and use your secret vote instead as that just makes you look worse than voting for stutters.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2013 15:09 GMT
#2913
On October 23 2013 00:02 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 23:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
Read up to this point.

I dislike skanjab but I liked mocsta's reasoning for him being town. I'm interested in the vayne flip. I stand by the stutters swap being better than the CR lynch regardless of outcome, although the secret vote DOES look ugly. Currently I'm attributing it to cephiro but who knows.

Don't THINK BH is scum atm but his window of opportunity for being more obviously town is slipping fast.

yeah looked at lastargument filter + supersoft

supersoft was most likely a respect kill

lastargument was on lonemeow, mattchew + holyflare

aside from storr thinking mattchew is town, there does not seem to be too much going for him?



What..? Marv said he was leaning town on mattchew, he liked my content and he hated skanjabs reply after night/lonemeow and et. You even reading?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 22 2013 15:10 GMT
#2914
Ebwop: After night. He also disliked et and lonemeow
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 22 2013 15:13 GMT
#2915
On October 23 2013 00:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 00:02 Mocsta wrote:
On October 22 2013 23:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
Read up to this point.

I dislike skanjab but I liked mocsta's reasoning for him being town. I'm interested in the vayne flip. I stand by the stutters swap being better than the CR lynch regardless of outcome, although the secret vote DOES look ugly. Currently I'm attributing it to cephiro but who knows.

Don't THINK BH is scum atm but his window of opportunity for being more obviously town is slipping fast.

yeah looked at lastargument filter + supersoft

supersoft was most likely a respect kill

lastargument was on lonemeow, mattchew + holyflare

aside from storr thinking mattchew is town, there does not seem to be too much going for him?



What..? Marv said he was leaning town on mattchew, he liked my content and he hated skanjabs reply after night/lonemeow and et. You even reading?

Really?

p5, last words spoken on Holyflare:
On October 19 2013 19:08 LastArgument wrote:
Holyflare, you are significantly less active than the towngames of yours that I have looked at, what gives?


Last words spoken on Mattchew:
On October 20 2013 03:28 LastArgument wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2013 03:18 Mattchew wrote:
On October 20 2013 03:13 yamato77 wrote:
On October 18 2013 20:06 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 19:02 supersoft wrote:
On October 18 2013 18:54 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 18:36 LastArgument wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:30 Mattchew wrote:
On October 18 2013 13:25 Holyflare wrote:
Mattchew, you say stutters is a townread for you? He's posted almost nothing. What makes you say towny?

he stood up for palmar when he was an easy target with what i think is decent reasoning


This is not a great post. The reasoning was meh, because either mafia or town Palmar could make exactly the same posts as Palmar made.

Irrationally defending someone who doesn't deserve to be defended isn't a towntell.

He was trying to tell the thread something he believes he knows, trying to enhance someones read on him which i think is pretty fucking towny


what do you think about sn0_man

In an attempt to answer your question i think i found my first scum read, storrzerg.

I'm phone posting so this case will not be well formated nor long winded

Storr has focused on sn0 since his very first post which was more of a joke then anything

Storr has be consistently seeking approval of our qt before posting here, this is probably to make sure that other townies agree with him

Palmar very early said he liked storr's idea to kill sn0, this is what really set off the influx of storr's push on sn0

Storr's case on sn0 is bad, like forced bad. It only brings up one game related post, which is a setup post by sn0 that concludes scum may want to have a hand in who wins the challenges. This is a reasonable point

Storr has continued to push this case on sn0 despite its holes and seems to ignore a lot of other happenings in the thread... I think this is to look like a tunnelling townie

Storr has said in this thread and multiple times in the qt that hufflepuff produce the least dark wizards

Storr is scum

##vote storrzerg

Catching up, but I wanted to note this post.

Matt, this is sketchy as fuck. No reason to think Storr is mafia IMO, and for this to basically be your only scum read of the game... I am disappoint.

yes.. my read on marv and you was really good day 1/2 last game too.. i start slow because I process of elimination scum hunt

right now i dont believe storr is scum... hes too willing to share his entire thought process

i dont have any direct scum read right now... just people im ok with dying


I'm curious whether this post constitutes you playing better than Noir, which was your stated goal earlier in this game? It feels quite apathetic.

In Noir one of your early mafia-reads was correct (Stutters), was it not? You seem a bit less emotionally invested this game.

I do have a couple of reasons to think you may be town, but I'm not very confident in them.


If you are looking for a hard scum read, then, no, that is not there. Being Day1 play, what more do you expect?
These suspicions have not abated throughout the Day2, and thus, are still relevant.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 22 2013 15:14 GMT
#2916
On October 23 2013 00:10 Holyflare wrote:
Ebwop: After night. He also disliked et and lonemeow

They are out of the game; not worth discussing.

I shall admit though, this inclusion strengthens his reads though and hence, my point (as those 2 were correct)
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 22 2013 15:17 GMT
#2917
Don't bother trying to deduce anything from the night kills. Ravenclaw's reads were largely based on QT dialogue and with 2 of our main reads flipping red on n1, it's completely pointless to attribute the kills to anything beyond that. I'm pretty sure Ravenclaw was going to get hit even if we hadn't pushed any reads at all.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
October 22 2013 15:20 GMT
#2918
On October 23 2013 00:17 syllogism wrote:
Don't bother trying to deduce anything from the night kills. Ravenclaw's reads were largely based on QT dialogue and with 2 of our main reads flipping red on n1, it's completely pointless to attribute the kills to anything beyond that. I'm pretty sure Ravenclaw was going to get hit even if we hadn't pushed any reads at all.

Are you treating BH as self-fulfilling prophecy?

Or anticipating he will be lame and claim a RB; or similar?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
October 22 2013 15:23 GMT
#2919
I'm treating him like everything else; he will be periodically re-evaluated, in particular in light of new evidence. Obviously the first major opportunity for that will be after the day post.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 15:24 GMT
#2920
Who's in ravenclaw syllo?
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