Good, it's a start.

How do you expect "two better players" to differentiate between scum and you if you

1) Don't explain yourself and answer questions.
2) Continue to do scum things like "voting symbolically" without making your own opinion because you don't read the thread enough.

Again, we are ALL new to this game. The only player who has played more than 3 games is Bereft, and he's played what... 4? For most people, this is their first or second game. It's not an excuse.

For example... why wouldn't you vote me instead of E00e if it's just a symbolic vote? We are both voting you... what difference does it make?

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 18:02 GMT

#577

Sure... there are tons of possible options. I'm uneasy with July, i'd like to pressure him, but he also doesn't seem to be around. You had a scum read on SagaZ and same with Seuss. GGTemplar isn't around, istandwithmitt had a read on him. There are tons of options, pressure them. I'm busy right now so i'm just skimming so i'm not ready to make a case for anybody atm. Feel free to do so.

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 18:52 GMT

#582

On October 19 2013 03:02 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
if it makes you happy

##unvote

##Vote: Balla24

like i said, no difference to me. i'm basically blind since the 2 people i'm following (Bereft and Seuss, after Odin's death) have not voted / are voting for me.

Ugh... out of all the things I said you chose to do this? So unhelpful... You're not even playing the game by not even thinking about any reasoning for anything. @Onlywonderboy this is the kind of thing i'm saying. It might be his 1st game but by your 1st game you were at least trying to form your opinion AND you were being defensive about things. He might be uncomfortable but this is completely ridiculous. I made a perfectly reasonable post for him to answer to and all he does is vote me for it T_T. You would have never done that on your 1st game, however uncomfortable you were.

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 21:01 GMT

#585

On October 19 2013 05:40 Bereft wrote:
that was my argument actually. but I realize now that my argument assumes mafia thought (like playerboy and I did) that you were soft claiming. which may not necessarily be the case - because going back and rereading your filter a second time, it doesn't come off like a soft claim after all. I think at the time I was largely convinced by playerboy aggressive reaction.

I guess the question that faces us now is that if we think nyx is the SK (as I think there's a very slim chance he's scum), would we prefer to target him instead of a potential scum read? if he's our safest bet right now at avoiding a mislynch I would be fine with it.

Wait what? I thought your argument was based on the fact that he wasn't roleblocked which means he's part of the scum team. What does it have to do with whether or not scum thinks he was soft-claiming?

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 21:06 GMT

#586

EBWOP: Disregard, I see what you mean. Mutliple option scenario.

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 21:50 GMT

#596

Ugh... how the fuck is onlywonderboy being called more useful than me (no offense onlywonderboy)? All he has done is post either agreement with Seuss. Or random very unlikely scum possibilities. Now again, I'm not going to call out scum. I defend myself when asked AND i am questioning other people. The other candidates barely provide reasoning for their actions and their defenses are barely there.

GGTemplar:

Balla24/E00e were both in a mafia circle alongside onlywonderboy, however onlywonderboy has made what I believe to be pro-town contributions today that I noted in my previous post. Both Balla24/E00e have given me no such vibe. In fact, the only distinguishing factor between Balla24/E00e for me at this point is the quantity at which they post and give their thoughts.

What pro town contributions do you think he's made?

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 22:10 GMT

#602

On October 19 2013 06:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:

Show nested quote +

His posts on pg 28/29 read town to me.

What? His best post was in regards to finding SagaZ suspicious, and he immediately dropped his pressure on him. He follows it up with random postulating about possible options. I don't see what you see I guess. He doesn't even share his thoughts on the popular opinions.

FWIW, I do think he is town, but not for those reasons and I've shared my reasons before (i believe him to be town due to my previous experience with him, more of a feeling then any concrete evidence though). I just don't think your theory holds much weight when you ignore my contributions to town.

Also, I read E00e as town. As much shit as I gave him earlier for the cop thing and bandwagoning on me, he defended himself well. Those are the only things I had on him.

If we don't want to lynch nyx, then I'm going to put my vote on July for now (i'm definitely willing to jump back onto nyx still if we can't a consensus going). Oh and if there's ever any doubt about nyx being SK, he left his vote on me and admitted it was completely random before going to sleep.

##unvote
##vote: July617

I'm very weary at GGtemplar as well, but I don't think that's a lynch I can push atm.

July is inactive. I'm hoping for some kind of post from him before deadline so I can get a better read.

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 22:12 GMT

#604

Oh come on... you've pressured me enough already don't you think. Jesus.

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 22:33 GMT

#608

On October 19 2013 07:21 Seuss wrote:

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That was only the thumb vices. We haven't used the rack or the iron maiden yet.

Hahaha. You turned me to pissed off to laughing and smiling fast. But still. Fuck you! ^_^

Let's look at July: this guy has less than a page of filter, with a lot of one liners. I'm reading over it now. The only hard stance he has taken was against istandwithmitt, as soon as that vote didn't go through, he backed off. After that he hasn't taken any more. All he's done is tentatively marked people as town.

Remember this fishy post that Bereft originally pointed out (he completely ignored it so far):

On October 18 2013 10:18 July617 wrote:
Sorry guys, quick post - long day, need a shower. Bereft that's a good framework of thinking, i'm just asking questions here, but if the same were said about you what's your defense to that?

Balla I hope you've got a defense as well .

And what I pointed out before:

On October 18 2013 23:58 Balla24 wrote:

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This is a contradiction in itself. If their voting styles are bad and will screw with town, then they are mafia because they aren't helping town? What? That's like saying "man this guys posting sucks and he's really not pro-town, so he's probably not scum because scum would think better". No. That's not logical. How do you hunt for scum then July, pls explain?

Since then, he hasn't posted at all. It's hard to get a read on him, I know, but at least pressure him instead of me (with your vote, feel free to continue pressuring me without your vote as I'm quite sure i've made it clear I will respond to your pressure).

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 22:39 GMT

#611

That's not true. You never know... he could be lurking right now scared to post. He still needs to make a vote doesn't he? Put your vote on him, you can always change it later. If he's not posting because he doesn't think there's a threat to be lynched then you need to make it clear there IS a threat for him to be lynched.

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 22:51 GMT

#615

On October 19 2013 07:44 Seuss wrote:
Fair point, we have three people who don't have votes down with three hours to go. GGTeMpLaR and onlywonderboy are at least around, so I will assume you gentlemen will vote shortly.

##unvote

##vote July617

Once July617 has voted with his reasons, I'll be on hand to swap,

GGtemplar put his vote on E00.

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 22:52 GMT

#617

On October 19 2013 07:47 E00e wrote:
I am still around if you need my vote for anything that you can convince me of.

Can you share your opinion on July and SagaZ? You haven't mentioned them much.

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 18 2013 22:55 GMT

#618

For everyone else: This isn't a waiting game. Assume we aren't going to hear from him.

Read filters, share your thoughts. POST!! What do you guys think about the 2 posts i pointed out? Pressure me if you still think i'm scum (which I know lots of people still do). Ask questions!!!~~ There's only ~2 hours left till vote.

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 19 2013 00:09 GMT

#638

Umm... July... why exactly did you quote my post?

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 19 2013 00:11 GMT

#641

On October 19 2013 09:10 Seuss wrote:
The fun part is he has two hours to figure out that Oh Wonderboy isn't a player.

Haha, I almost think he's drunk or something...

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 19 2013 00:16 GMT

#650

On October 19 2013 09:11 Bereft wrote:

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hahaha i love this guy (July, not you, Balla).

is it bad that i didn't even pick up on that mistake??

hahahaha dude i'm laughing so hard i don't know why

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 19 2013 00:17 GMT

#652

On October 19 2013 09:13 July617 wrote:
EBWOP

Balla I quoted you because you asked me what i thought , Vote ##onlywonderboy

Yeah, I got it now when I read deeper into what was quoted exactly. I was just confused on what specific part you were responding to but I think I got it now.

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 19 2013 01:10 GMT

#655

Confirmed drunk as fuck. July are you mafia?

Balla24

2322 Posts

October 20 2013 04:00 GMT

#698

I'm around too. I was away for most of the night, i'm mostly re-evaluating my reads. I think I have a solid read on SK but i'm still piecing it together.