Golden Sun: The Broken Seal Mini Mafia - Page 38

ShiaoPi

TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts

September 13 2013 13:12 GMT

#741

Day 1 Votecount:

strongandbig(3): ~~Koshi~~, ~~Papa_Smurf~~, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, Zealos

VayneAuthority(0): ~~Papa_Smurf~~

WaveofShadow(1): kushm4sta

Grackaroni(0): ~~WaveofShadow~~

kushm4sta(3): Papa_Smurf, Pandain, Old Partner

Pandain(0): ~~Grackaroni~~

Old Partner(1): ~~raynpelikoneet~~ Grackaroni

Koshi(0): ~~blubbdavid~~

blubbdavid(3): VayneAuthority, ~~Grackaroni~~, Sn0_man, Umasi

Currently, kushm4sta is set to be lynched (hit 3 first, after blubbdavid went down to 2 again, before coming back up)! Remember, voting is mandatory!
Not voting(4): strongandbig, Onegu

Next deadline:
Deadline date: Friday, Sep 13 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

blubbdavid

Switzerland2412 Posts

September 13 2013 13:13 GMT

#742

I do not like the fact that Zealos is jumping on the wagon so quickly, without much analysis. Rayn, it may make sense that you feel offended by SnB's posting, but him questioning your meta is not helpful for scum except for making the main speaker (which you are) look bad. As he said on his big post, he is undecided about you.
The only thing I could hold against him is that he wants to see Panda dead.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

September 13 2013 13:15 GMT

#743

On September 13 2013 22:13 blubbdavid wrote:
I do not like the fact that Zealos is jumping on the wagon so quickly, without much analysis. Rayn, it may make sense that you feel offended by SnB's posting, but him questioning your meta is not helpful for scum except for making the main speaker (which you are) look bad. As he said on his big post, he is undecided about you.
The only thing I could hold against him is that he wants to see Panda dead.

Look at what i worte. I just proved his post is bullshit!
There is no other motivation than to make me look bad. He is not adding anything to the discussion. He is bringing up invalid arguments about me (which i did PROVE wrong).

blubbdavid

Switzerland2412 Posts

September 13 2013 13:20 GMT

#744

You may have pointed out his bullshit, but I don't see the scummy in this bullshit.
Voting for Zealos now.
##Vote: Zealos

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

September 13 2013 13:21 GMT

#745

I understand people who have not played with me before (blubbers, Pandain, etc) not understanding what's wrong with SnB's argument because on paper the post may look good. However, EVERYONE who has played with me before should know why his post is simply incorrect.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

September 13 2013 13:22 GMT

#746

Zealos is not scum because he is voting for the scum dude blubbers...

Zealos

United Kingdom3576 Posts

September 13 2013 13:24 GMT

#747

On September 13 2013 22:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Zealos is not scum because he is voting for the scum dude blubbers...

Yay #Confirmedtown

Zealos

United Kingdom3576 Posts

September 13 2013 13:25 GMT

#748

But srsly, SnB does seem the obvious candidate, don't overthink things guys :3

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

September 13 2013 13:52 GMT

#749

Koshi are you here?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 13 2013 13:55 GMT

#750

yes. But busy atm.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 13 2013 13:56 GMT

#751

Possible busy*
Hectic last hour at work...

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

September 13 2013 13:57 GMT

#752

Give a player name. We both share our thoughts on them, then i do the same. Ok?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 13 2013 14:12 GMT

#753

Sure. bubbles

He came in the thread with FoSing me and defending SnB.

On September 12 2013 21:01 blubbdavid wrote:
I went to bed after saying hi.

I have my eye on Koshi. Not only have his opening posts been as useful as a wet sack of dead flies, that scumhunting of his against SnB

Show nested quote +

and some other posts have led to that bandwagon. A very not so justified wagon.

further:

Show nested quote +

SnB has very well given you a scumtarget in the form of VA.
Now SnB and VA are not on my scumradar, they rather look like two butthurt townies. But I will look into them further.

and lastly:

Show nested quote +

If you want to help town, then how should this post be useful in anyway?

The part where bubble says: "it could be scummy if SnB is scum". Isn't that strange to say? Could it be that blubb is scum and knows SnB is town. Then followed up with the "Koshi his push is even less justified than my read on Koshi" which indicates he knows his read is not justified on me?

On September 13 2013 01:46 blubbdavid wrote:

Show nested quote +

On September 13 2013 01:26 VayneAuthority wrote:

SnB is feeling uncomfortable.

Not having the best start SnB? D:

and some other posts have led to that bandwagon. A very not so justified wagon.

further:

On September 12 2013 20:19 Koshi wrote:

On September 12 2013 20:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually why everyone of those?

Reasons are in the thread.
SnB for the start + he hasn't given me a better target.
WoS for general uselessness.
Pandain for worst opening post.
Goodkarma, not impressed.

On September 12 2013 08:28 Koshi wrote:
This looks so much like Sicilian. I am leading SnB wagon of justice and VA his scumbuddy is trying to protect him. Could it be? Or not? Who knows. See what happens in the next episode "when Koshi wakes up".
for now ##Vote: Koshi
gn

SnB has very well given you a scumtarget in the form of VA.
Now SnB and VA are not on my scumradar, they rather look like two butthurt townies. But I will look into them further.

and lastly:

On September 12 2013 13:35 kushm4sta wrote:
honestly i dont even care if i get mislynched d1. d1 sucks azz anyway.

/martyr

If you want to help town, then how should this post be useful in anyway?

blubbdavid I would like your opinion on what you think of my analysis, it will tell me a lot of your alignment.

Ok so you pick a random person that is pretty much null to everyone in Koshi and decide to push him. ok great.

but wait your entire case just consists of his posting is "bad" which isn't really indicative of anything, just your opinion. Also note that koshi plays way worse as town.

You then go on to say that me and SnB just look like "butthurt" townies, perhaps trying to somehow gain some cred with us but then you leave us open to suspicion by saying "you will look into us later"

wtf?

then for good measure you throw in a bad kush quote and say that the posting is trash, well ok we all knew that. illusionary participation.

I don't see how your analysis makes me lynchworthy.
If I were scum, then I don't see how my actions should lead to anything that could be harmful to town. Now, you could say that I am bad scum, but consider that even a bad scum should have teammates who back him and lead him. And I have more confidence into my scum play than my town play.

Picking koshi may seem random, I picked him because his posts rubbed me the wrong way and I didn't want to meddle with the SnB bandwagon then. Is this scummy? Well it could be scummy if SnB were scum.
Koshi's push against SnB then was even less justified then my read on Koshi.

You guys being "butthurt" (maybe a good phrasing sry) was my first glance opinion. I wanted to look into you guys later because first I wanted to get rid of my post against Koshi.

I don't see how the kush quote is bad, him playing the martyr is not helpful. Does he really play Anti-town as town?
Admittedly, I overlooked/forgot some things about Grack, but I don't see how this is scummy.

And Grack, happy that you have a reason?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 13 2013 14:14 GMT

#754

bubbles = blubb

Meh, I think I want to lynch blubb or SnB.

Papa_Smurf

336 Posts

September 13 2013 14:15 GMT

#755

On September 13 2013 07:36 Koshi wrote:
Papa smurf got a red hat. Maybe also a red role?

[dramatic] dum dum dum [/dramatic]

lol i just understood this joke now

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 13 2013 14:16 GMT

#756

Also, by saying I am scum, he is meddling with the SnB wagon.

Dnu. Those 3 bolded lines in my last quote are really blegh.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 13 2013 14:21 GMT

#757

PS: I am traveling home in 35 mins. Who would you like me to investigate? And should I give my opinion out the top of my head or read his filter?

rayn tests so much fun!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

September 13 2013 14:25 GMT

#758

I think blubbers is not as scummy as you seem to think Koshi. His posting early on seemed weird to me aswell, but it's only semantics, everyone says stuff with wrong words sometimes and that does not make them scum. Also, scum are usually much more careful in how they word their posts and don't post "on the fly" that much. I don't think that makes him scum. Another thing that speaks in his favor is that he voted for Zealos. Why would he vote for Zealos when there are three wagons, one of which is him, and another one which is SnB, and the third one is kush. If he was scum he would have probably voted for SnB (unless they are both scum) because the case is strong. Or he would have voted for kush (which is the easiest vote for scum to justify at this point lol). Him voting for a completely different target speaks in his favor as his own ass is on the line. Even Umasi vote would have been justified from scum!blubbers.

His recent posting feels genuine, i do not think he is scum.

Go WoS!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

September 13 2013 14:30 GMT

#759

WoS to me seems pretty bad. It might be that he is just busy, but that does not justify the following. Remember when WoS got back? He went straight to arguing with Grackaroni. That's all he did and he ended up on a town read on Grack. Actually, that's all WoS has done this game.. been arguing with Grack. What especially bothers me is that when he first accused Grack, his reasons were not so strong. When Grack asked about this later, WoS reasoning changed to what i said (if you remember when we talked about Grack early on in the game). It was not WoS' reasoning, it was mine, and he was trying to justify his early read on Grack with something he did not bring up in the first place, at all. Nothing indicates he thought Grack was scummy for what he said later (after i had said it)... That's why i think WoS looks bad, and i am interested in hearing more from him now that he can't hide behind his Grack read and has to talk about other stuff.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

September 13 2013 14:30 GMT

#760

awwww I kinda skimmed over the whole Grack/WoS thingie. But it looked like WoS was geniounly thinking that grack was scum and he pushed him in a good way, dropped his read in a good way. But I'll reread.

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