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On September 21 2013 13:22 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 21 2013 13:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't think DP is playing "stupidly emotionally" at all. There's not an excessive amount of shit-flinging going on. WoS might be scum guys. :/ VE u mak me sad. And yeah DP, Geript's points against you were meta-y even though he says they're not but why do you care? Does that make him scum? Why bother attacking him? Because he is refusing to make a meta case when his case is meta. It doesn't feel right. And I attack bad/false arguments when they are accusing me so that they can't be used to lynch me. Obviously.
Why do you think Geript's 'case' is even remotely good enough to get you lynched?
Especially in the first like HOUR of the game?
I just don't understand---you really seem like you're overdoing it.
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On September 21 2013 13:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly DP I have a question for you.
Are you town?
If so, do you want to be killed N1?
Do you enjoy being killed N1? (I seem to remember that you don't.)
All of the above questions lead to these ones:
Why go hardcore (as town) right from the get-go if you know it places a target directly onto your back?
If you don't care either way, do you think you would be able to be more useful to the town in the first day than you could be as the game progresses? YEs NO NO Because clearly trying to look useless as town doesn't work for me in not getting killed (persona 4) so I am trying to play the best I can and be clearly townie and scumhunt so that: A) I can give town the best possible start if I do die. B) potentially get medic protected Also: C) I feel like posting and scum hunting cause it's fun.
This is also totally how you play as 3P survivor.
Are you 3P DP?
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On September 21 2013 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
@DP
geript is by far the most suspicious person in the thread so far. It's possible he'd acting the way he's acting to get reactions or some such retardation, but unless he says as much and I believe him, I have to assume that he's not playing like a moron and that he's scummy for it.
He has no meta case. He has an observation that he's supposedly suspicious over for meta reasons. I don't care enough to go check out the game because I know from my own experiences with you that you're able to have an amicable opening regardless of your alignment. And the rest of what you've done (aside from saying you want me to tunnel a townie -.-) has read pretty town to me.
As it stands, I'm the most suspicious of geript of anyone who's posted. I basically agree with you but I'm not sure Moron necessarily = scum. I'm also worried about Mocsta and Wave for basically refusing to comment on geript or read that part of the thread. They seem to dismiss it as a squabble and meaningless when it is, in fact, the opposite. I'm not sure how I am supposed to take people seriously when they don't/refuse to properly read people's posts.
It's pretty damn meaningless.
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On September 21 2013 14:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
And with that gents, I'm off to sleep. I expect I'll have a hefty amount of reading to do when I wake up, so as a favor to me if you're reading this before posting, joining the game late has lost you the right to do any early-game spam fun. You want to spam-fun? Do that shit as soon as the game starts. Shit has happened now, so please keep the discussion focused on relevant topics. Or don;t and draw my ire. Either way, there are several people in this game whose opinion on the geript stuff I want and I look forward to reading it.
Ninight guys.
On September 21 2013 15:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't care if you do or not. Anything else?
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On September 21 2013 16:01 geript wrote:
Ok I'll just assume that you're both scum then.
lolgeript.
I'm having mixed feelings right now because on one hand it's kind of hilarious watching you call other people than me scum for stupid reasons, but on the other hand I kind of miss it a little.
We'll chat tomorrow bbygrl. We can team up against the tryhards of the world.
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If you guys know anything about DP then you know exactly why I asked those questions.
Playing voice mafia but I'll check back periodically.
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On September 22 2013 00:37 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 00:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
If you guys know anything about DP then you know exactly why I asked those questions.
I know nothing of DP. Enlighten me.
Actually, Mocsta?
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Ohai ladies.
I back.
A few things:
For those people asking about my intentions and posting regarding DP: I played a stretch of games with him a little while ago and became fairly confident in my townread of him. Ever since playing voice mafia with him I feel like my ability is now slightly crowded since I know a little more about him and his style. My prodding served two purposes: first of all, as some of you may or may not know, DP likes to play his game with a pinch of salt, that is to say, he gets angry/annoyed pretty easily. As such after delving a little into attempting to determine his alignment I decided to see how he'd react to some dumb (and yet truthful) comments:
On September 21 2013 13:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:26 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Honestly DP I have a question for you.
Are you town?
If so, do you want to be killed N1?
Do you enjoy being killed N1? (I seem to remember that you don't.)
All of the above questions lead to these ones:
Why go hardcore (as town) right from the get-go if you know it places a target directly onto your back?
If you don't care either way, do you think you would be able to be more useful to the town in the first day than you could be as the game progresses? YEs NO NO Because clearly trying to look useless as town doesn't work for me in not getting killed (persona 4) so I am trying to play the best I can and be clearly townie and scumhunt so that: A) I can give town the best possible start if I do die. B) potentially get medic protected Also: C) I feel like posting and scum hunting cause it's fun. This is also totally how you play as 3P survivor. Are you 3P DP?
On September 21 2013 14:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 14:16 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 14:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
@DP
geript is by far the most suspicious person in the thread so far. It's possible he'd acting the way he's acting to get reactions or some such retardation, but unless he says as much and I believe him, I have to assume that he's not playing like a moron and that he's scummy for it.
He has no meta case. He has an observation that he's supposedly suspicious over for meta reasons. I don't care enough to go check out the game because I know from my own experiences with you that you're able to have an amicable opening regardless of your alignment. And the rest of what you've done (aside from saying you want me to tunnel a townie -.-) has read pretty town to me.
As it stands, I'm the most suspicious of geript of anyone who's posted. I basically agree with you but I'm not sure Moron necessarily = scum. I'm also worried about Mocsta and Wave for basically refusing to comment on geript or read that part of the thread. They seem to dismiss it as a squabble and meaningless when it is, in fact, the opposite. I'm not sure how I am supposed to take people seriously when they don't/refuse to properly read people's posts. It's pretty damn meaningless.
DP didn't take easy bait here and has actively REALLY attempted to avoid shitting things up despite an aggravating geript (who I'm pretty sure is town, btw) and me to a lesser degree pushing him. More likely town for that as it's really easy to pawn off or excuse early game shitfests/trolling.
The second purpose of my prodding, specifically the questions post, is that not only did I actually want to know the legitimate answers to those questions (which DP answered very well imo) I also wanted to gauge some other reactions to those questions as some people have noticed, is kind of an odd line of questioning and essentially only pertains to DP's specific meta, which I will explain here for people who don't know.
DP is known as a very strong town player. As such he is often a target of mafia kills extremely early in many games, including dying on N0 games before he can even DO anything. He absolutely hates this (almost as much as he hates 3P survivor apparently, for similar reasons---hence my bait about 3P despite there obviously not being one in this game. DP didn't take it  ) The reason I asked him here is because as a townie, I very much want a town DP to be on my side and a part of the game as long as possible, so I was wondering if perhaps he would have considered changing his posting style slightly so if town, he could survive mafia hits a while longer. This doesn't appear to be the case and is perfectly fine.
Hopefully I will have no caught up to everything relevant regarding me up until recently.
New stuff:
Marv what do you make of justanothertownie's reaction to my questions? Certainly a very easy point of attack, yet even the people who have voted me thus far haven't bothered with it. It honestly looks as though he is hiding behind not knowing DP's meta and as soon as someone provides an explanation for him he will be ready to drop the point of suspicion and will have 'contributed' something.
Yamato, come on dude. You're not that bad.
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On September 22 2013 03:43 yamato77 wrote:
@Wave
So you think DP is town, congratulations.
Still not entirely thrilled with your game plan so far.
What game plan?
I don't have one. As town I hunt scum, and I make it easy for people to determine that I'm town. D1 is slow for me and always has been. I'll be able to get a read on a few players here and there but I very rarely have strong scumreads until a little later in the game unless it's something like Dandel.
What more would you like from me specifically?
Right now I could lynch LM based on Marv's point, or maybe justanothertownie. And don't even get me started on the lurker/no-post factor because that shit pisses me off every game regardless of my alignment. I have to stuff to say about that too but I don't want to derail if people don't want to hear it from me atm.
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On September 22 2013 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
The stuff about geript. Feels townie to me.
Yup.
Geript is a ballsy player in general as town or scum but specifically attacking DP, who is a well-known strong town player and getting on his bad side is suicidal if Geript is scum and DP town. It would honestly make more sense if DP were scum and geript town, but I do not believe Geript actually has strong enough reasons to call DP scum fo realz, and I do not personally believe DP is scum atm.
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On September 22 2013 03:52 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 03:43 yamato77 wrote:
@Wave
So you think DP is town, congratulations.
Still not entirely thrilled with your game plan so far. What game plan? I don't have one. As town I hunt scum, and I make it easy for people to determine that I'm town. D1 is slow for me and always has been. I'll be able to get a read on a few players here and there but I very rarely have strong scumreads until a little later in the game unless it's something like Dandel. What more would you like from me specifically? Right now I could lynch LM based on Marv's point, or maybe justanothertownie. And don't even get me started on the lurker/no-post factor because that shit pisses me off every game regardless of my alignment. I have to stuff to say about that too but I don't want to derail if people don't want to hear it from me atm. What's your read on VisceraEyes?
VE?
I'm not sure of him atm. I think what most surprises me right now is his lack of interaction with (or even mentioning of) me. We're just coming off of a win in Aperture and we're pretty good buds so I would think if a town VE found me town he wouldn't hesitate to interact as he is a buddying kinda guy.
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On September 22 2013 03:54 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:52 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 03:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
The stuff about geript. Feels townie to me. Yup. Geript is a ballsy player in general as town or scum but specifically attacking DP, who is a well-known strong town player and getting on his bad side is suicidal if Geript is scum and DP town. It would honestly make more sense if DP were scum and geript town, but I do not believe Geript actually has strong enough reasons to call DP scum fo realz, and I do not personally believe DP is scum atm. I agree with this, but he was talking about Mocsta's stuff about geript.
Oh. Let me have a look. Also want to comment on JAT's recent post.
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On September 22 2013 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Marv what do you make of justanothertownie's reaction to my questions? Certainly a very easy point of attack, yet even the people who have voted me thus far haven't bothered with it. It honestly looks as though he is hiding behind not knowing DP's meta and as soon as someone provides an explanation for him he will be ready to drop the point of suspicion and will have 'contributed' something.
If you want me to comment on something different you just have to ask me instead of trying to paint me red. Note that I was specifially asked about my read on you and this post was the only one that stuck out to me. Why would I not ask about the intention behind it?
First of all, does my explanation of DP's meta satisfy you?
Second, regarding your post: fair enough I suppose. I am curious as to how you have found nothing out of the ordinary about my earlier posting other than the one you mentioned. There are certainly enough people who have voted me and found things that are scummy about me, why have you not attempted to discuss this with them?
Am I scum, JAT?
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On September 22 2013 03:57 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:15 yamato77 wrote:On September 22 2013 03:14 geript wrote:
Why does everyone forget that I was the first person to call out my wubbybumpkins. You could give an updated read on WoS, and perhaps reads on other players in the game. You know, like I asked you to do. There hasn't been a reason to upgrade or downgrade him from suspicious. He didn't engage me at all despite the fight with DP. Plus he bypassed the whole fight entirely. And he didn't give a reason for not engaging the common topic.
Because it was a dumb and pointless fight, luv muffin. You know that. I wanted to bypass that and get to the meat of the game, which for me is starting now.
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Regarding Mocsta:
I am honestly fucking awful at reading him. It used to be because of sheer spam but there have since been spammier players than him who I can actually read to some degree (Rayn) so now it's simply because I'm bad at reading him. I think it was mentioned early but the trolly entry to the thread and subsequent change in posting style could very easily come from both a scum or town Mocsta. I think it'll get easier for me regarding him as the game goes on but I really can't trust myself to read him properly.
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On September 22 2013 04:17 Coagulation wrote:
Anyone buying marvs tryhard "taking notes" bullshit? I consider myself a bit of a marv aficionado and hes giving me bad vibes here for sure.
Are you.....are you actually going to play this time?
Can you explain what you mean by this because marv's entry to the thread and early posts seem pretty typical of himself to me.
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On September 22 2013 04:08 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 03:58 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 22 2013 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Marv what do you make of justanothertownie's reaction to my questions? Certainly a very easy point of attack, yet even the people who have voted me thus far haven't bothered with it. It honestly looks as though he is hiding behind not knowing DP's meta and as soon as someone provides an explanation for him he will be ready to drop the point of suspicion and will have 'contributed' something.
If you want me to comment on something different you just have to ask me instead of trying to paint me red. Note that I was specifially asked about my read on you and this post was the only one that stuck out to me. Why would I not ask about the intention behind it? First of all, does my explanation of DP's meta satisfy you? Second, regarding your post: fair enough I suppose. I am curious as to how you have found nothing out of the ordinary about my earlier posting other than the one you mentioned. There are certainly enough people who have voted me and found things that are scummy about me, why have you not attempted to discuss this with them? Am I scum, JAT? So basically you wanted to see if he would take your weird questions and use them to shit up the thread? There is no reason for me not to believe this. You are right about your 3rd party accusation at least. He could have easily used that to argue with you as scum. I didn't have a scumread on you the post just made no sense to me. The things other people attacked you for were not that impressive to me.
Do you have any scumreads atm?
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On September 22 2013 04:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 04:17 Coagulation wrote:
Anyone buying marvs tryhard "taking notes" bullshit? I consider myself a bit of a marv aficionado and hes giving me bad vibes here for sure. You almost always read me wrong, twinkletoes. To wave, I'm not sure where you're going with this JAT thing? You seem to be reading more into him questioning that DP post of yours than I'm understanding. Explain to me like I'm a lil babe?
Essentially he hasn't contributed a great deal and it looked to me at the time as though he jumped on an 'odd' post of mine which is an easy thing to do when you're trying to contribute (read: scummy). In questioning him now I'm trying to get him to explain himself as well as contribute more because thus far it's only looked like 'trying' to me and not actual contribution.
He's answered me satisfactorily I think but I'm still wary of the 'trying to contribute' vibe I get from him.
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On September 22 2013 06:01 FirmTofu wrote:Ello peeples. Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 12:08 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 12:06 geript wrote:
Cos I do what I want bish. And you want to be useless and Bad. Cool. Why did DP capitalize "Bad"? I dun lyke sekrits so plox explain Mr.DP.
Okay, I'm done with my trolling for the day. I see that geript and DP have engaged in a shitfest argument that is meaningless and spammy filled with ad hominem attacks. That should stop now because it is anti-town play. I like rayn for stepping up to the plate and tell geript and DP to cut out the bullshit. I think DP comes off the worst with this argument. DP has showcased a deliberate and calculted town posting style in past games I've seen of him. He is not the type to spam the thread into uselessness. I'm not saying he's scum, but I really dislike his approach so far. I think we should keep a close watch on him as the day progresses. Geript emerges from the shitfest argument in a favorable light, imo. His town play is usually spammy and meaningless during day one. Good examples include Nuclear Winter and Bluelightz(he was hydra smurf). Still on page 30 catching up to the thread.
On phone atm but I want to know if anyone else found something odd/disturbing about this post.
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On September 22 2013 07:24 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 07:22 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 22 2013 06:01 FirmTofu wrote:Ello peeples. On September 21 2013 12:08 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 12:06 geript wrote:
Cos I do what I want bish. And you want to be useless and Bad. Cool. Why did DP capitalize "Bad"? I dun lyke sekrits so plox explain Mr.DP.
Okay, I'm done with my trolling for the day. I see that geript and DP have engaged in a shitfest argument that is meaningless and spammy filled with ad hominem attacks. That should stop now because it is anti-town play. I like rayn for stepping up to the plate and tell geript and DP to cut out the bullshit. I think DP comes off the worst with this argument. DP has showcased a deliberate and calculted town posting style in past games I've seen of him. He is not the type to spam the thread into uselessness. I'm not saying he's scum, but I really dislike his approach so far. I think we should keep a close watch on him as the day progresses. Geript emerges from the shitfest argument in a favorable light, imo. His town play is usually spammy and meaningless during day one. Good examples include Nuclear Winter and Bluelightz(he was hydra smurf). Still on page 30 catching up to the thread. On phone atm but I want to know if anyone else found something odd/disturbing about this post. It would help if I knew what you were referring to. Do you mean the referreeing? Or the defending geript? Or what? It looks like a pretty standard nullish interjection while catching up to me.
Sort of? Ill explain when not on phone (3-4h mebbe?) But I also wanted to be purposefully a litle cryptic to see if anyone else was on the same page as me since nobody has mentioned FT at all yet.
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