EPTOn June 08 2013 04:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Read rayne's filter and it will become apparent
Just did. It's not apparent to me @ all. Please explain to me what you're talking about.Read rayne's filter and it will become apparent
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Sent can you tell me why you voted for Ace after the cop reveal? Cause I just read through your filter and several times you mention that you'd like to lynch Oats or that he's scummy. But nowhere do you act even a little bit suspicious of Ace. In fact you pretty much said the exact opposite: On June 05 2013 21:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: What do you all think of Oats? He's been tunneling Ace on the following evidence: On June 06 2013 00:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: So now we have Oats who has little content and sheeps anyone who isn't Ace. And Ace doesn't even look scum. [##Unvote] [##Vote Oatsmaster] On June 06 2013 10:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Okay. I'd like to lynch Oats. However I too shall look into prplhz, Vayne and jay and determine what I think of them. Guilty until proven flammable? On June 06 2013 18:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Oats it wasn't a scumslip, you realize I was talking about "looking scummy", not "being scummy"? I had a problem changing my vote because I thought someone could make a case for me being scum either way. If I switched and rayn flipped red, it would look to potential accusers like I was bussing him. If I didn't, it would look to them like I was potentially ignoring him. Stop grasping at straws that don't exist (*hem* Ace *hem*) Ots pls On June 07 2013 05:23 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: So after all that, Ace says he copchecked Oats and Oats is scum. So you decide to prplhz - 7/10 scumpoints for his questionable defense of rayn which may or may not be motivated by meta (2 above neutral for his flip flop) vayne - 9/10 scumpoints from bringing nothing of value and defending rayn oats - 6/10 scumpoints because although his godforsaken ace push is angering me, he's using what little substance he offers to pressure me into a lynch. rayn was ignoring me (I maintain that he was setting me up). vayne looks like he's ignoring half the players in this game too (including at least one scum). oats is taking the spotlight to lead who he (mistakenly) thinks is town. he gets one scumpoint for the ace push and is otherwise a neutral (but incredibly pithy!) player. [B]On June 07 2013 18:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: You're scum.##vote: ace | ||
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On June 07 2013 18:52 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: This is the only reason I see. Basically he's saying that Vayne and Prplhz are scum and defending Ace? And that's why he voted for him even though he hadn't seemed scummy the entire game and he redchecked someone that he did think was scummy? Really?Vayne and prplhz voted for Oats and defending Ace on little evidence despite public opinion, are we having a repeat of the rayn lynch? Can we be right twice? | ||
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On June 08 2013 05:16 kitaman27 wrote: Yeah, why would Vayne and prplhz be scummers in that situation? I don't know which of Vivax's scenarios are true. But I'm pretty sure it aint the one where Sent is town. I just can't possibly imagine him voting Ace there. Add to that the scumslip and his defense of it. And he's practically confirmed scum.I think the alternative to this argument is that Sent's scum reads aren't actually legitimate and he is willing to push whatever doesn't lead to the dreaded 10v2 scenario. | ||
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On June 08 2013 06:13 Vivax wrote: I kinda agree w/ this. That's one reason I'm now hesitant to vote Oats.a) He was pushing Oats all along → Unlikely scum with Oats b) He switched to Ace cause two of his scumreads voted Oats → Unlikely scum with ace Ok I'm not following you here. First of all if he's scum he doesn't have any scum reads. Second, and I've already said this. If Ace is scum then the only possible reason he fakeclaimed Cop is because he wanted to keep Sent from going to the noose which seemed likely. Like him voting for Ace is exactly what a scum Sentinel would do if they were scumbuddies because it serves 2 purposes: 1) if most people think he's scum, they're more likely to vote for the other guy. And 2) When Oats flips green and then Ace subsequently flips red, Sent looks great since he was voting Ace from the getgo. Since it was pretty obvious that Aces claim was gonna get Oats lynched,it becomes a no-brainer for Sent to vote Ace. Unless ace and Oats are both town, Sentinel isn't scum And this is the other thing I'm worried about. On the off chance that towncop checked townmiller. I'd hate for us to waste 2 lynches while we give the scummiest guy in the thread a free pass. I mean, I really don't see how anyone can look @ this case: + Show Spoiler +On June 08 2013 04:58 JarJarDrinks wrote: I actually wish this Ace-Oats thing didn't happen so we could just go ahead and lynch Sentinel because he's by far the scummiest person in the thread. Sent can you tell me why you voted for Ace after the cop reveal? Cause I just read through your filter and several times you mention that you'd like to lynch Oats or that he's scummy. But nowhere do you act even a little bit suspicious of Ace. In fact you pretty much said the exact opposite: So after all that, Ace says he copchecked Oats and Oats is scum. So you decide to You're scum. | ||
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On June 08 2013 15:05 Ace wrote: OK, but I feel like a an Oats/Sent team is kinda unlikely and Sent is just blatently scum right now. I'd still rather Lynch Oats than you for all the reasons I've already said. But I;d rather Lynch Sent than either of youNo need to worry, I'm not Scum. Don't associate his behavior with me. I already outlined it would be a crazy idea for me to gamble with his defense here. On June 08 2013 16:40 Ace wrote: Ace, you do realize that is Oats flips green, you're autolynched tomorrow. The cop isn't gonna waste a check on you. I really don't like how you're already making contingency plans for a town flip. If we're planning on wasting a copcheck on you in the case of a mislynch, it makes more sense to not lynch you or Oats today and wait till we get results back. Right. I even said if Oats flips Town and you guys don't believe me just have the Cop check me tonight. In the post where I claimed I even, never mind I'm just repeating myself. .... It's a wonderful idea. We know the possibility of a miller does exist so Oats flipping Town implicates me. A simple check resolves whether I am lying or not unless I am scum and get miller/gf. Lynching me results in up to 6 dead Townies when 1 check could have saved us time and lives. .... No. The risk is too great as a simple Cop check would get me lynched This is why I think we should lynch Sent today. An unlucky miller check basically means we lose 6 townies before we get back to the game. We should lynch Sent cause he's scum, have the cop check Ace tonight, and lynch one of Ace/Oats tomorrow. | ||
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On June 08 2013 22:28 Vivax wrote: Exactly what I thought, it'd be a waste of a check. So you guys are both advocating that if Oats flips green, we still don't check Ace tonight right? Because if it would be a waste of a check when we lynch outside of Ace/Oats, it would be even more of a waste if we lynch a town Oats first. | ||
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On June 08 2013 22:39 Ace wrote: Don't look at it as a contingency plan then. It's literally me spelling out every explanation of the various scenarios I've been asked over and over. I know I'm Town and confident in my check. In the unlikely scenario Oats flips Town then clearly I'd ask to be checked to clear myself and avoid 6 Town deaths. What else would you expect me to say? Go ahead and lynch me? No I understand as either town or scum you'd want the cop to check you @ that point. But you understand that it's unlikely to happen and we'd most likely autolynch you? If you could choose between these 2 scenarios, what you would choose? Lynch Oats and if he flips green autolynch you tomorrow OR Lynch Sentinel and have a cop check you tonight and then we lynch based on the cops info tommorrow. | ||
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That's why Sent decided to try and bus Ace. Reposting my case against Sentinal now that we're pretty sure Ace is scum: + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2013 04:58 JarJarDrinks wrote: I actually wish this Ace-Oats thing didn't happen so we could just go ahead and lynch Sentinel because he's by far the scummiest person in the thread. Sent can you tell me why you voted for Ace after the cop reveal? Cause I just read through your filter and several times you mention that you'd like to lynch Oats or that he's scummy. But nowhere do you act even a little bit suspicious of Ace. In fact you pretty much said the exact opposite: So after all that, Ace says he copchecked Oats and Oats is scum. So you decide to You're scum. Summary: - Sent spends all of day one suspecting Oats and saying that Ace isn't scummy. - He then scumslips @ night - Ace fakeclaims which basically guarantees that the next 2 lynches go Oats>Ace - Sent votes for Ace. For some reason, Sent thinks that Ace is lying about redchecking Oats even though he spent all of day 1 talking about how scummy Oats was and how not scummy Ace was. And like, when I bring this up, he doesn't try and defend himself @ all. He disapears from the thread because he doesn't want to derail the Oats lynch. Sent and Ace need to be our next lynches. I'd actually prefer Sent first because there is a small chance Ace checked the miller. But Sents vote for Ace makes no sense for town in that situation either so he's the better lynch. Either way, we shouldn't waste cop checks on them cause they're so far @ the end of the scum spectrum. Cop should check someone who's just a little suspicious like Vivax/Vayne/Jay. | ||
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Sheep my case against Sentinel. Best guess for scumteam is Sent/Ace/then probably vivax. If Ace is town then I'd probably suspect WoS. Other suspicious people are Vayne/Stutters/jay, but not as much as the first group. Also, just thought of this: NO ONE CLAIM UNTILL AFTER THE COP DOES. If Ace is scum then the reason he waited untill after all the other roles claimed was so that he could make sure that Oats wasn't another role (meaning he could say oops Miller). We should have thought of that. | ||
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