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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 08 2013 23:15 GMT
#994
Also shit.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 09 2013 03:02 GMT
#1001
On June 09 2013 08:44 VayneAuthority wrote:
you know what that means then, we got 2 scum that bussed hard on rayn then. Re-evaluate all reads. 2 people in good standing with the town are scum.


You're scum. That is all.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 09 2013 19:30 GMT
#1051
So the poll is anonymous so I'm guessing the scummers could be honest with their intentions. They'd be fools not to since they can vote for the situation that favors them and nobody would know who voted for wat. Ergo, if he was scum they would label him town and if he was town they'd vote for the lynch.

Without shakalaka's vote (assuming he voted), we have 7-4 in favor of a lynch.

If Ace is town, the three scummers would vote to lynch him and buy an extra day. This would mean 4 towns voted for each scenario. Seems about probable, and scum could swing the wagon to their favored outcome.

If Ace is scum, the three scummers (including Ace) would vote against the lynch. This would mean 7 towns want Ace dead, and only one townie threw his lot in with the scum by some happenstance. This near-unanimous effort by town to lynch him would be less probable - but there is also the guy in IRC who asked Shakalaka to come in and vote for the town option. It would make sense that scum, seeing that despite all their efforts their man is going to get lynched, ask another guy to put some more weight on the town option.

Intredasting.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 09 2013 23:14 GMT
#1104
Might as well.

##Vote: Ace
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 09 2013 23:18 GMT
#1108
On June 10 2013 08:16 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 08:15 Ace wrote:
I think not not.

But yo, I'm going out to watch the game, don't do anything hasty while I'm gone.


Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 08:14 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Might as well.

##Vote: Ace


[image loading]



HEY I posted first.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 09 2013 23:24 GMT
#1114
On June 10 2013 08:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
dat jarjar kill interesting


That implicates moi does it not? He was pushing my lynch.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 02:04 GMT
#1185
I died in smurf mini, the amount of effort I dedicate to this game is now 33%, up from 25%.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 18:30 GMT
#1193
On June 11 2013 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2013 11:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I died in smurf mini, the amount of effort I dedicate to this game is now 33%, up from 25%.


Scum team? Do you still have a mafia read on Vayne?


Ace Vayne ____ don't know my third pick yet
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 18:50 GMT
#1199
On June 12 2013 03:37 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 03:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 11 2013 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 11 2013 11:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I died in smurf mini, the amount of effort I dedicate to this game is now 33%, up from 25%.


Scum team? Do you still have a mafia read on Vayne?


Ace Vayne ____ don't know my third pick yet


prpl claims roleblock on Vivax.
Vayne claims medic on Wave.

Are you saying that mafia shot into the player they were protecting or that they double stacked last night? How wouldn't Vivax be scum if you have a mafia read on Vayne?


Yeah I guess that would make sense. Maybe target #2 was a vet? Although none have come forward so maybe Vivax is scum after all... vet hasn't claimed yet has he?
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 19:32 GMT
#1205
On June 12 2013 04:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sentinel, in future don't be involved with 5 games at the same time.
That's fucking retarded and people will be pissed at you when you ruin their games with inactivity.


I learned that a week and a half ago.

Anyways, yolo
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 20:03 GMT
#1207
On June 12 2013 04:37 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 04:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 12 2013 04:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sentinel, in future don't be involved with 5 games at the same time.
That's fucking retarded and people will be pissed at you when you ruin their games with inactivity.


I learned that a week and a half ago.

Anyways, yolo


Who is more scummy between prpl and Vivax?


Unless someone counterclaims the roleblocker, Vivax.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 21:24 GMT
#1209
On June 12 2013 05:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 05:03 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 12 2013 04:37 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 12 2013 04:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 12 2013 04:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sentinel, in future don't be involved with 5 games at the same time.
That's fucking retarded and people will be pissed at you when you ruin their games with inactivity.


I learned that a week and a half ago.

Anyways, yolo


Who is more scummy between prpl and Vivax?


Unless someone counterclaims the roleblocker, Vivax.

Counterclaiming (or fakeclaiming as scum if your team didn't draw the role) is suicide in this setup even more so than a regular one, Sentinel. That will never happen and it's honestly ridiculous that you brought it up.


Does it matter? The point is that prplhz was roleblocker and he isn't lying.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 11 2013 21:51 GMT
#1211
Vayne says that "anyone pushing on him reminds him of goodkarma from Les Mis", as if only scum would have the audacity to question his lack of substance and weird townreads.

On June 08 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 04:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
On June 08 2013 03:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
Im pretty much confirmed town after rayne flipped red, anyone pushing on me reminds me of goodkarma from the les mis game, except im goodkarma this game.

What?
No.
GK at least put in the effort.


You just said me putting in more effort makes me scum. Make up your mind or stop trollin' its a perfect example


He then excuses himself from putting in more effort saying it looks scummy. Note that while WoS (and I) asked him to put in more effort, he still posts mostly in one liners. But, you may argue, I post in one liners as well. And many have asked me to put in more effort. Does that make me scum? No, and hence the substance is not enough to convict our friend Vayne here.

On June 10 2013 08:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
So all that is in JJD's filter is sentinel stuff so not very useful. Is it WIFOM or is sentinel actually scum? Wish we had a cop check on him


He uses JJD's push on me to implicate myself as trying to save my ass as being scum. However it was dismissed as WIFOM so we may never know if he intended to be the catalyst for my lynch. Then he lays the issue to rest, so it doesn't seem to be an issue of discussion (just yet).

On June 11 2013 02:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote:ace

busy right now but willadd thoughts later


Still waiting on those thoughts on Ace.

On June 11 2013 09:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
it wasnt really follow the cop oats was a fairly good lynch, he's impossible to read anyway so 1 less headache to deal with


Even if Oats was a headache that's no reason to dispose of a perfectly good towny. Furthermore we should be lynching the people who we think are scum, not the ones who we can't read at all. Scum would be more than happy to lynch unreadable townies, town should be enthusiastic about lynching scum who play like scum.

What this all means is that the substance that Vayne does post is scummy. He's voting for people that he can't figure out in the name of clarity, but people he can't figure out might just be weird townies. I've played with Oats twice now, I think, once as scum and once as town. He is hard as fuck to read from posting alone. If he posted scummy stuff it's all well and good, but Vayne doesn't even lynch him for the scummy stuff.

On June 08 2013 08:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
##vote:Oatsmaster


I don't even see any justification in his filter for this vote.

That's a brief summary of recent events that have furthered my red read on Vayne.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 12 2013 01:23 GMT
#1230
On June 12 2013 07:11 jaybrundage wrote:
Hm Sent pushing Vayne actually is something i like. If they are both scum. Sent who is likely the next lynch. Has no town credibility would prolly not get very far into lynching Vayne. So similar to how Rayn gave a town read on Vayne and vayne tried to use it to look good. It would just be in inverse this time. Sent tries to push Vayne. Sent dies flips red. And then Vayne could be look at scum trying to push me i must be town.

I know im getting ahead of my self with assuming flips. But doesnt anyone have thoughts on this?


Your gut reads are inferior to my gut reads
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 12 2013 01:47 GMT
#1232
On June 12 2013 08:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 08:11 kitaman27 wrote:
On June 12 2013 08:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 12 2013 08:05 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm thinking its the other way around. He pulls that stunt BECAUSE his partners are in trouble.


That would make literally zero sense, He was under no pressure as he stated so why would he get himself lynched then town goes right back to killing the bad players?


If the bad players are lynched, mafia kp immediately drops to one and the game is next to over. Cop claim earns him a lynch and an extra kp and perhaps we forget about the people who are suspicious on night one.

If he is in good standing and his scum buddies are in good standing, then why make a trade at all? Keep mislynching into victory.


So are you softing that sentinel is surely scum? I know I am not scum so your theory is either wrong or you should just come out and say that. I think he just took it upon himself once he got the cop role to ensure some more deaths then leave it up to the others in good standing. The game is over anyway if me/sent are actually scum so I fail to see your logic.


For what may be the first and last time in this game, I agree with you Vayne.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 13 2013 00:45 GMT
#1284
Just got home from work.

I was roleblocked. Cop said I'm town and I'm using that as my sole proof that I'm not mafia and maybe rber this round was a scum. Or just really unlucky coincidence
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 13 2013 01:36 GMT
#1300
On June 13 2013 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
I apologize if you are town vivax but lynching you solves the game for me FMPOV. If you were Rb'ed the other night and show up as scum, then WoS goes back to not being clear. If you are town then I know that WoS is also town and as a result his RB on sentinel is real, and your cop claim is real, meaning sentinel would either have to be godfather or it was simply kita that was shot which would clear him too.

You are the piece that sets a lot of things into motion.

##vote:Vivax


Explain this justification I have a hard time connecting the words in the first paragraph with the vote in the second.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 13 2013 01:46 GMT
#1304
On June 13 2013 10:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 10:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
I apologize if you are town vivax but lynching you solves the game for me FMPOV. If you were Rb'ed the other night and show up as scum, then WoS goes back to not being clear. If you are town then I know that WoS is also town and as a result his RB on sentinel is real, and your cop claim is real, meaning sentinel would either have to be godfather or it was simply kita that was shot which would clear him too.

You are the piece that sets a lot of things into motion.

##vote:Vivax


Explain this justification I have a hard time connecting the words in the first paragraph with the vote in the second.


it's a win/win. If he's scum then one more down, if he's town then it confirms a lot of things for me. Also pretty much 1 of prphlz/stutters has to be scum if vivax flips town. He is the missing link.


So you are admitting to the possibility that he's town and it would make a lot of other things make sense as a result?

Why can prplhz and stutters not be of different alignments?

Why is your post so scummy?
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 13 2013 01:51 GMT
#1306
On June 13 2013 10:49 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2013 10:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:36 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On June 13 2013 10:28 VayneAuthority wrote:
I apologize if you are town vivax but lynching you solves the game for me FMPOV. If you were Rb'ed the other night and show up as scum, then WoS goes back to not being clear. If you are town then I know that WoS is also town and as a result his RB on sentinel is real, and your cop claim is real, meaning sentinel would either have to be godfather or it was simply kita that was shot which would clear him too.

You are the piece that sets a lot of things into motion.

##vote:Vivax


Explain this justification I have a hard time connecting the words in the first paragraph with the vote in the second.


it's a win/win. If he's scum then one more down, if he's town then it confirms a lot of things for me. Also pretty much 1 of prphlz/stutters has to be scum if vivax flips town. He is the missing link.


So you are admitting to the possibility that he's town and it would make a lot of other things make sense as a result?

Why can prplhz and stutters not be of different alignments?

Why is your post so scummy?


He can't be scum cause he saved WoS N2.
Unless scum doublestacked JJD there was a save involved, and that makes both WoS and Vayne town.

Take your pick.


I was under the assumption that prplhz was telling the truth and you were scum. And/or Vayne was telling the truth but he saved someone completely unrelated to the scumshot.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 13 2013 17:06 GMT
#1358
On June 13 2013 22:40 kitaman27 wrote:
What do you think about Sent's post where he infers that he doesn't know Ace is the veteran? Feigning ignorance?



I'm pretty sure I implied the opposite of that.
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