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This would be my first game! GL HF.. hopefully... | ||
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On May 16 2013 13:33 Acrofales wrote:
Added to setup notes. Thank you! ^^ | ||
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On May 16 2013 12:05 StiMaDDict wrote: uhh.. /in? This would be my first game! GL HF.. hopefully... Sorry XD I guess I wasn't clear enough. /in | ||
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Sorry, I thought this would start sooner. I will be busy in a week so I'll pull out. | ||
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I'm back. Done with whatever I was working on. PS - It seems as though there aren't many people playing.. | ||
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On June 04 2013 00:41 Acrofales wrote: Dessx has been forcibly removed due to being yet another smurf of threesr, who is permabanned from TL Mafia. Need one more sign up! Lets go! How did you figure it out? Anyway, do we usually get 13 pages before the game even start? | ||
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Can't wait for this to start. | ||
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English is my second language and shit, on top of that I had to go back and forth to the airport yesterday. I skipped the middle section concerning Gotard, so no comment on that until later on. As of right now, LoneMeow strikes me as a mafia. ##vote: LoneMeow On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote: Why? Make a case if you have a good read. I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative. On June 06 2013 15:21 LoneMeow wrote: Firere345, has your opinion changed? Do you still lean scum on iVLosK!? First thing that stuck out to me was that in both cases he is eager for someone other than himself to make a case against iVLosK! while holding back himself. He, not exactly encouraged, but led Umasi to go on with his rant on iV (which caused much dilema later on..) but on the very next line said that he disagrees(?) to what Umasi's not existing case.. Also despite the fact his comment on iV's behavior sounds somewhat reasonable, he doesn't make any case or assumption; only going as far as to say that iV's attitude is neither indication of town or scum. His second quote asks Firere345 whether he changed his opinion which appears odd as well. Forget the fact that I have no fucking clue what Firere345 is saying or why he is commenting on Umasi, but why is LoneMeow asking Firere345 if he still thinks iVLosK! is scum. I went through Firere345 filter and he never proposed anything like that before. Given it should have been much more reasonable for LoneMeow to ask Umasi or Xzavier such question not Firere345 because they were voting on iVLosK!. On June 06 2013 15:31 LoneMeow wrote: Do you still think he's scum though? If so, I'd like to see a short case explaining why, perhaps you can convince me? Once again, he keeps asking for case on iVLosK! that he neither support nor argue. He seems little too eager to hope on a bandwagon given the chance though. On June 07 2013 16:25 LoneMeow wrote: Good morning, and sorry for being a bit inactive yesterday, had a rather exciting day IRL. Leaning slightly on town. Sure, he is somewhat abrasive but he was actively driving discussion. Definitely not a top lynch candidate for me right now. I was thinking of pushing you a bit after this, because when you posted this you hadn't stated any real opinions of your own besides sucking up to Xzavier, however your later posts are better so I'm okay with it for now. This I don't like at all. Looks a lot like trying to fish for an opinion to sheep on when you don't state who you actually suspect, and that I find rather scummy. I can go much more in detail. On fferyllt direct question, he once again slip passes. Nothing definite that will hurt him later. No concrete background to support his claim. Either he is as lazy as I am or he doesn't want to give anything away. I might add who is your top lynch candidate. Gosh, LoneMeow's comment on Yavanna is just plain weird. Maybe it's just me but even though Yavanna hadn't made a scum read until then but he(or she?) gave couple of town reads on people involved around iVLosK! conflict. She cleared herself pretty well when asked why he(she) is being too nice. In contrary, LoneMeow hasn't made a real opinions of his own. And again he doesn't antagonize Yavanna. Last on I'm not fully comprehending.. On June 07 2013 19:05 LoneMeow wrote: Gotard's posts are extremely weird, jumping in and straight away pushing lynch on you who most seem to find the strongest town read at the moment. Even weirder that he's pushing his second best scum read instead of the best. On the other hand, this is such a suicidal move that it makes me wonder if scum would dare do something like that. Your case on him seems pretty good, but I still worry that he might be just overeager townie since as said, the move seems too suicidal for scum to dare try. I'm fine with lyching him if he doesn't provide better input, though. On June 07 2013 20:59 LoneMeow wrote: It's not really a strong scum read at all, but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so. This situation with Gotard has me worried, I can understand why people would want to lynch him but I'm having hard time convincing myself scum would dare be so brash. Even though I have no idea what Gotard did but I can guess a little. It seems Xzavier, who is viewed by majority as town, pointed out something minor about Gotard and Gotard, who wasn't as active as Xzavier immediately engaged him with a vote and scum read possibly. (Correct me if I'm completely off the track) So what Lone Meow decides to do is basically say, "Oh this guy (Gotard) is doing something that is suicidal. He is likely a scum. But wait, this is too suicidal to be something a scum would do. He might be a townie after all." Lastly, his scum read on Firere345 is just plain weak. It seems to me as when he was asked he had to make a reply so he picked one of the lurker. He can probably further That's it for now. ..shit, I have to go to the airport again. | ||
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On June 08 2013 07:10 LoneMeow wrote: Gotard's posts since the original incident make him look more scummy rather than less. And re-thinking what Firere345 actually wrote made me realize my read on him was very weak. So I think I'd rather lynch Gotard after all. ##Vote: Gotard Bandwagon much? If you are going to (follow the general flow of votes) anyway, at least give your reasons. What exactly in Gotard's posts did you find scummy? What of Firere345 posts make you realize your read is weak? Yes, it was weak to start with: but right now I'd want to lynch Firere345. Doesn't say much, sheeps the current "consensus". Promises to participate more but doesn't seem to be doing so. but what Firere345 posted so far does not contradict your theory. He posted 5 times so far and most of them are indeed parallel to the general consensus at the time. In conclusion, I find it suspicious that you would just cast your vote on Gotard so very close to the deadline without a solid support of your own finding but rather follow the majority of the vote, a move I would identify as a bandwagon mafia would make trying to help out + Show Spoiler + | ||
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I know it sounds stupid but how many mafia? | ||
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Congratulation, ladies and gentlemen (and zombies and shits). We've finally got rid of pesky mafia. We have only 2 more (and SK?) to kill in the name of justice! | ||
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On June 08 2013 11:21 fferyllt wrote: MYLO = mislynch and lose. Basically a 3-1 or 4-2 town v scum scenario in this game. Town outnumber scum by 2. If town mislynch, then they are down to outnumbering scum by 1 at nightfall, and then parity will be reached with the night kill. This assumes no town night actions can prevent the scum kill. LYLO = lynch or lose. This comes about when town outnumber scum by 1. so 2-1 or 3-2 probably in this game. If town doesn't lynch scum that day town automatically lose. If we have an SK then the calculations get more complicated. Thanks for clarification. | ||
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LoneMeow is a mafia. Kill him tonight if you are Vigilante. We have a solid case against him and his interaction with Firere345 (proven scum) further indicate that he is up to no good. I'm not sure whether he is afk or something but he is not even defending himself even though he is in a tight spot. Also he only made these two posts which in my opinion is contentless and weak. On June 08 2013 14:06 LoneMeow wrote: Good morning, and good job on the lynch. I'll need a while to read everything that has happened but if anyone's here feel free to ask what's on your mind in the meanwhile. On June 08 2013 15:42 LoneMeow wrote: Crap, running out of time. Essentially, since voting is mandatory, I had to choose between Firere345 (who I mostly wanted to lynch for lurking so much and not really being very useful when he was around) and Gotard, on whom there was a relatively good case. Originally, I thought Gotard looked way too brash to be scum, but then he went on the "wasting time on me" tangent which felt scummy, discussing opinions on anyone is useful even if the target is later proven town. | ||
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On June 09 2013 13:05 Xzavier wrote: random question? does this mean that there is no SK? since only 1 person died? It could be that either one of tE_ or Yavanna was SK or mafia didn't kill tonight which is highly unlikely. | ||
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On June 09 2013 13:48 Xzavier wrote: Hm. Is it worth asking whoever he talked to, to come foward? he might have accidentally mason'd a scum and scum just kills him cuz logic. Like is that a possible situation? That could be so if the scum wanted to kill a blue as soon as possible. If Skanjab1 had actually masoned a scum, it would have been easy to build some town credit for mafia in my opinion. | ||
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On June 08 2013 10:20 Skanjab1s wrote: I think it is on here, fferyllt Not sure what this means.. it was right after the night post.. fferyllt, were you masoned? | ||
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On June 09 2013 13:57 StiMaDDict wrote: Not sure what this means.. it was right after the night post.. fferyllt, were you masoned? On June 09 2013 13:22 fferyllt wrote: I had a look for a breadcrumb of who he might have masoned last night. Didn't see one, but I may just be dumb and sleepy.  | ||
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anyway, time to die mafia motherfucker.. ##Vote: LoneMeow | ||
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On June 11 2013 07:18 Umasi wrote: I think that xzav is town! i have since pretty early on, early in D2 he shook my confidence, but has come back and made me happy. Could you elaborate on this. The rest of the post was pretty much garbage imo. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 06 2013 15:15 LoneMeow wrote: Why? Make a case if you have a good read. I'm tempted to disagree though. Yes, iVLosK! is somewhat abrasive and irritating with his attitude, but that's not really alignment indicative. On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote: How exactly is asking for someone to explain how reasoning behind a scum claim scummy? At the time I asked for Umasi to present a case he seemed to be playing very emotionally instead of thinking logically and I hoped he would either present a logical case that could help me understand his reasoning for the claim or calm down and realize how weak his claim was. Exactly what was your purpose behind your request to Umasi? Were you giving him a friendly advice or were you genuinely interested in hearing a logical case of Umasi against iVLosK! You just threw a comment, "Make a case then." You were neither actively involved in the beginning of the game nor were you standing up for iVLosK! with a proper reasoning. + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2013 15:21 LoneMeow wrote: Firere345, has your opinion changed? Do you still lean scum on iVLosK!? On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote: The posts you quoted contain Firere345's scum read on iVLosK! which I was asking about, trying to both get a second opinion on my own read on iVLosK! and to see Firere345's reaction to get a better read on him, seeing how little he had posted at the time. As for your interaction with Firere345, why him? He literally only said this, "Yeah, the random lynch vote also leads me in that direction" so far in the game. Mind you, he didn't fucking say iVLosK! was scummy. He merely agreed with Umasi. Well, Firere345 turned out to be a scum.. Do I need to further explain my suspicion? + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote: Once again, he keeps asking for case on iVLosK! that he neither support nor argue. He seems little too eager to hope on a bandwagon given the chance though. On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote: This is just a continuation of the earlier, Umasi still hadn't really presented a logically sound case and seemed to only be prepared to drop his attack on iVLosK! based on the "consensus" at the time, not because he had changed his own opinion. Like why the FUCK do you care? Did you think iVLosK! was a scum? Did you feel like Umasi was acting scummy? Were you pressuring Umasi? Were you going to agree with a logical case on iVLosK!? I mean if you want a case on him so bad, why don't you get your fucking ass in the game and go through his filter and posts. Another thing, convince you? Umasi didn't even ask for your agreement. He pretty much ignored you. (I don't even think he knew you existed to be honest..) Convince you? Just really awkward and suspicious to me. + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote: I can go much more in detail. On fferyllt direct question, he once again slip passes. Nothing definite that will hurt him later. No concrete background to support his claim. Either he is as lazy as I am or he doesn't want to give anything away. I might add who is your top lynch candidate. On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote: The question by fferylt isn't a direct question to me if you read the context, and it's just objectively scummy to fish for opinion without even naming the suspect like that. I'm not sure what you meant by "no concrete background to support his claim", as I didn't make a scum claim, I simply pointed out that fishing for opinion is scummy. Why do you only addressed the third part? Also I can understand where you're coming from but what exactly are you doing? You haven't made a single case. You haven't really revealed any of your scumread so far. Just out of nowhere goes what fferyllt is scummy. Well, what do you think about other thing she said. Are those scummy or townie. wait.. did you skip my address on your second part? Wait wait wait, you responded to my address on your first body as if I was commenting on your third body? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS GUY PLAYING AT!! Write a long ass respond to my case on you, skip from parts to parts, and  This is what you skipped. Mind responding to this? On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote:Gosh, LoneMeow's comment on Yavanna is just plain weird. Maybe it's just me but even though Yavanna hadn't made a scum read until then but he(or she?) gave couple of town reads on people involved around iVLosK! conflict. She cleared herself pretty well when asked why he(she) is being too nice. In contrary, LoneMeow hasn't made a real opinions of his own. And again he doesn't antagonize Yavanna. + Show Spoiler + On June 08 2013 04:11 StiMaDDict wrote: Even though I have no idea what Gotard did but I can guess a little. It seems Xzavier, who is viewed by majority as town, pointed out something minor about Gotard and Gotard, who wasn't as active as Xzavier immediately engaged him with a vote and scum read possibly. (Correct me if I'm completely off the track) So what Lone Meow decides to do is basically say, "Oh this guy (Gotard) is doing something that is suicidal. He is likely a scum. But wait, this is too suicidal to be something a scum would do. He might be a townie after all." Lastly, his scum read on Firere345 is just plain weak. It seems to me as when he was asked he had to make a reply so he picked one of the lurker. He can probably further On June 10 2013 01:05 LoneMeow wrote:Essentially you're saying that my case on Firere345 was weak (well, yes, it was, I even said that much myself later) and that my defense of Gotard was scummy - however as it turns out Firere345 was mafia and Gotard seems likely town by the vote distribution, so I'd say this only makes you look slightly suspicious. Yes, I'm saying that your case on Firere345 was weak. You were messing with Gotard and decides that Firere345 is scummy because he was lurking? Dude, what about me or tE_?AND YOU ENDED UP VOTING FOR GOTARD AT THE END!? Facepalm.. this guy.. Another thing, where did you exactly admit that your case was weak? Sorry, I can't find it in your posts before this. This is to you all. True, I'm a tunneling LoneMeow (hard) but I have a good reason for it. I didn't post a case on LoneMeow to get more information on him and I didn't do it to see other people's reaction to it. I purely did it, because in my head he is the most likely candidate for mafia. I'm also risking my own safety. I pretty much singled him out from other lurkers and I was first one pushing a case against him. I'll take a full responsibility for his death regardless of the result of flip. | ||
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Umasi, breathe. I see where you are coming from. I did read all of your posts. Let us see what LoneMeow flips. Let us see what happens to Yavanna. No need for you to get all worked up. | ||
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Thank you for clarification. | ||
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I thought at least I got something right in TL mafia but no... ![[image loading]](http://pds20.egloos.com/pds/201107/27/34/a0069734_4e2f141e6d4fd.jpg) FUUUUUUUUUUUCKK | ||
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After LoneMeow's mislynch (by me), I was both busy irl and afraid to take part in the game. It's all bit too much for me to follow. Just want to pull out of the game at this point. | ||
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As for me.. I think I did a pretty aweful job. I had a complete mental break down after LoneMeow flipped town. I was so sure of it after firere345 flip Day1. I tunnelled LoneMeow so hard. sorry  Anyway I'm going to go over the whole thread again in hope that I can much from it. | ||
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On June 19 2013 23:26 Acrofales wrote: This game, scum got some bad breaks. Not being able to find a replacement for Yavanna screwed them up pretty badly, and they were all very new players, compared to town who had 3 mafiascum veterans (sometimes RNG works that way). I think that impacted the game quite a bit more than the blue balance, which I still don't see much of a problem with. The setup I had in mind was a Hatter, a Masoner and 1 out of 4 roles at random (JK, Vet, Cop or Medic) versus the scumteam we had. I thought about a scum Masoner, but I figured that by D2 or D3, someone would know there were 2 masoners and it would be easy to see that one of them must be town and the other scum (I also thought of giving town 2 masoners just to fuck with that logic  ).Also, the lack of a cop doesn't mean the godfather is useless. It allows you to play a certain way simply by KNOWING that a cop check will show you green, regardless of the presence of actual cops. But... both of my last newbie games the town won fairly handily (as opposed to the first one I hosted, which scum won with a flawless victory), I might have to ramp it up for the next time  EDIT: and in other, totally unrelated news, the new True Blood episode was absolutely terrible. Even with my low expectations for it. I was kind of wondering why you didn't include a SK though.. | ||
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