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i said something hinting to it, but i didnt want to bash the fuck out of her at the very start of the game, i was going to wait to see a few more posts from her and not judge her based off that alone. But she never posted anymore so it wasnt exactly my problem, and she was modkilled accordingly, also
i asked you to quote this:
On June 07 2013 01:44 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like "Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town." Or this to xZAv "Now that I've ruffled your feathers" what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.
And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes. On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits? On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!
No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least. I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort. i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere.
now tell me again that i was buddy buddy with her?
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Your saying all of this after the flip, when its pretty fucking obvious.
Now i had no information of her role day1, so my interaction was her was one of "meh" because i was still forming a read.
i flipped out on iV because he was asking for it.
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On June 13 2013 12:42 Umasi wrote:
Ffer, how do you get xzav being anything but null out of the yavanna interactions?
at that point in time i was one of the most town looking people, active making pro town posts. the godfather was trying too hard to get on my good side, thats how i see it now. And thats why its a null read.
IF were both mafia, why the fuck would you tie yourself to each other, that wuold be something you would post in the mafia quicktopic, not this one. O.o
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On June 13 2013 12:46 Umasi wrote:
"it wasn't exactly my problem"
of course it's your problem.
it's mafia, everything is your problem.
modkills arnt my job. stop saying pointless shit like that
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On June 13 2013 12:48 Umasi wrote:one fucking second: ONE FUCKING SECOND: Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 13:56 Xzavier wrote:On June 06 2013 13:53 iVLosK! wrote:On June 06 2013 13:50 Umasi wrote:
iV, you DO care if people trust you.
THAT IS HOW YOU WIN THE GAME
You can't be correct on every read and win without convincing everyone else to go along with your read. Wait for it... Wait for it... On June 06 2013 13:50 Xzavier wrote:
##unvote iVosk! Huh, I guess he trusts me. And I did it all without making some shitty "plan" that I'm not going to follow anyway. Go figure. The plan talk was just something to get to shitflinging. We got there. im curious as to what else should be done. Why not CONTINUE THE SHITFLINGING he wasn't asking for it, this is explicitly your motivation.
you continued the shitflinging, and look where it got you that day.
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On June 13 2013 12:51 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 12:49 Xzavier wrote:On June 13 2013 12:48 Umasi wrote:one fucking second: ONE FUCKING SECOND: On June 06 2013 13:56 Xzavier wrote:On June 06 2013 13:53 iVLosK! wrote:On June 06 2013 13:50 Umasi wrote:
iV, you DO care if people trust you.
THAT IS HOW YOU WIN THE GAME
You can't be correct on every read and win without convincing everyone else to go along with your read. Wait for it... Wait for it... On June 06 2013 13:50 Xzavier wrote:
##unvote iVosk! Huh, I guess he trusts me. And I did it all without making some shitty "plan" that I'm not going to follow anyway. Go figure. The plan talk was just something to get to shitflinging. We got there. im curious as to what else should be done. Why not CONTINUE THE SHITFLINGING he wasn't asking for it, this is explicitly your motivation. you continued the shitflinging, and look where it got you that day. Yes, I did continue the shitflinging! But what's wrong with doing it on an entirely new target who is objectively acting unbelievably suspicious?
go back and re-read day1. i think your memory might be a little off.
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On June 13 2013 13:16 fferyllt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 13:11 Umasi wrote:
Xzavier, what is off about my memory of day one?
Two things ffer:
One: WHY WOULD XZAV NOT FIND HER SUSPICIOUS AND CALL HER ON IT. I found her suspicious and I'm not even xzav. t.t
The way xzav has been playing would lead me to believe he would call someone on that kind of thing, that's just how I feel he has been this game. I don't know his meta, he doesn't have a meta. But, with my perception of him, he would call her on it if he were town.
Two: Firere/Yav hardly have interactions, I think it's entirely possible Yav was just being an idiot and xzav was like t.t go away, compared to calling her on it.
I admittedly don't know why he wouldn't correct her in the scum qt, but all of this talking, if memory serves, was kinda rapid. It would be awkward to switch between the scum thread and this thread, which may go quite a way. The bolded is exactly right. The confirmed scum hardly interacted. And Yavanna even said she was willing to lynch Firere. THAT is how newb scum act. Xzav was reveling in being townread and viewed as a town leader and not just by Yavanna. You were openly willing to sheep his vote. Sheeping his vote wasn't scummy, but it was kinda ill advised given that ALL of the more experienced players were on a different wagon.
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this this this this this.
please fucking read this.
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On June 13 2013 12:42 Xzavier wrote:i said something hinting to it, but i didnt want to bash the fuck out of her at the very start of the game, i was going to wait to see a few more posts from her and not judge her based off that alone. But she never posted anymore so it wasnt exactly my problem, and she was modkilled accordingly, also i asked you to quote this: Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 01:44 Xzavier wrote:On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like "Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town." Or this to xZAv "Now that I've ruffled your feathers" what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.
And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes. On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits? On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!
No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least. I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort. i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere. now tell me again that i was buddy buddy with her?
thats not exactly a free pass, thats saying "your looking pretty suspicious, start being useful or some questions might arise" now, i am wondering if you even read this post. read the bolded and tell me it was a free pass again
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i was considering a mass claim at the start, hell i wont even say that. i was asking about it because it sounded like an interesting thought, i wasnt pushign it or anyhting. i was merely trying to gather information about how they work.
and the guides arnt black and white, and certainly are not explicitely geared toward noobie games. i was asking the advice of the more experienced players, and they gave it to me, and it leaves me wondering why the experienced people answered my questions and the less experienced people are trying to get my lynched for it. the thing that bothers me is i dont know which one of you two is the scum.
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On June 13 2013 13:25 Umasi wrote:
Okay I will make this part towards you PERFECTLY FUCKING CLEAR:
WHY
DID
YOU
NOT
BRING
IT
UP
WITH
HER
On June 13 2013 13:23 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 12:42 Xzavier wrote:i said something hinting to it, but i didnt want to bash the fuck out of her at the very start of the game, i was going to wait to see a few more posts from her and not judge her based off that alone. But she never posted anymore so it wasnt exactly my problem, and she was modkilled accordingly, also i asked you to quote this: On June 07 2013 01:44 Xzavier wrote:On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like "Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town." Or this to xZAv "Now that I've ruffled your feathers" what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.
And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes. On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits? On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!
No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least. I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort. i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere. now tell me again that i was buddy buddy with her? thats not exactly a free pass, thats saying "your looking pretty suspicious, start being useful or some questions might arise" now, i am wondering if you even read this post. read the bolded and tell me it was a free pass again
read quote pls.
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who the fuck do you think........
jesus fucking christ, why did you even put ffer's name on that list. your trying as hard as you can to mislynch me, and for that i feel very sorry.
bro, your like trying to trick me into saying something that you think you can get my lynched over, do that to your scumreads, and apply pressure. dont fucking go balls deep HAM in the paint balls to the wall motherfucking badass on somebody because they FUCKING SAID WHAT YOUR CALLING THEM OUT ON NOT SAYING
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On June 13 2013 13:28 Umasi wrote:
hey, xzav, I read your quote
I did it
you were suspicious of her.
Why didn't you question her about it DIRECTLY WITHIN THE INTERACTIONS.
On June 13 2013 12:42 Xzavier wrote:i said something hinting to it, but i didnt want to bash the fuck out of her at the very start of the game, i was going to wait to see a few more posts from her and not judge her based off that alone. But she never posted anymore so it wasnt exactly my problem, and she was modkilled accordingly, also i asked you to quote this: Show nested quote +On June 07 2013 01:44 Xzavier wrote:On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like "Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town." Or this to xZAv "Now that I've ruffled your feathers" what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.
And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes. On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits? On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!
No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least. I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort. i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere. now tell me again that i was buddy buddy with her?
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Umasi, please. stop going around in circles. if your goign to ask the same question over and over again, and i keep giving you the same answer. Why do you think im going to give you a different answer.
and yes ffer is a badass and really good at the game, and i didnt want to state my read on somebody because of one post. That has also been said, if you ask me the same thing again i probably wont even give you the curtisy of quoting myself a page back answering that same question. so please, stop spamming this thread. unless you have something new to say.
EVER THINK THAT MABYE SOMEBODY HIT F5 FIRST?
or mabye people MISS things?
your fucking coming at me like your expecting me to be perfect, your asking me why i missed something (which i didnt miss, as quoted) on my FIRST game of forum mafia ever?
do you realize how silly you sound?
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hey hey hey, i want to hear ffer talk too. hes a good guy. <3
no seriously please, can we get some logic up in this bitch?
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Umasi, thats what i was asking for a looong time, and the answer they gave was mainly this:
Town cred
You dont want to be the last one to join a lynch, or wait too overly long. it doesnt look good. you want to join busses early if your going to bus, its not required, but it works best if your bussing in that fashion.
If they switched their vote off and somebdoy else switched to firere345 (say me, if i dindt switch back to gotard) they would look hella-bad and most definately be the biggest lynch target the next day.
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Jesus, i asked this same question over and over and over, go look at the answers they gave me before you ask the same ones again.
then ask for clarifications.
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On June 13 2013 14:01 fferyllt wrote:
I think it is possible.
And I don't think scum Xzav would have changed his vote and then changed it again five minutes later. All it did was call attention to him. He could have stayed on Gotard and been much less visible.
I think we are looking for scum in the minor wagons and on the Firere wagon. Not on the Gotard wagon.
Really?
well still, at any rate. all roads lead to Onegu.
##Unvote
I dont think scum Umasi would go that balls deep HAM in the paint balls to the wall motherfucking badass on somebody.
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On June 13 2013 14:05 fferyllt wrote:
yeah, I saw that.
One vote is not a big deal.
To me the bigger issue is going through the process of elimination and removing players from the lynch pool based on good reasoning. Because, the bigger the lynch pool, the more likely the final scum will win.
This is also something i agree with.
im a bit worried about gotard. he hasnt posted anyhting day3. like literally nothing.
his entire filter is 2 pages. and since day2 he hasnt really said anythign of value.
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my PoE right now has it down to
(most probably)Onegu or (possibly)iV.
you? (this ofc being of the active people)
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