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JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 11 2013 18:41 GMT
#935
On April 12 2013 03:33 Smancer wrote:
Warent gets a couple votes then these guys hop on? There is too much to risk today for a mislynch and they just post 2 lines and hop on bored.
I didn't just jump on him. I've thought he was scum for a while now.

My original case against Warrent:
On April 09 2013 22:02 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Warent looks pretty bad to me too. On day 1 he tries to twist rainbows words and (mafia 101) makes a big deal out nothing:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 02:15 Warent wrote:
On April 06 2013 01:49 Rainbows wrote:
On April 06 2013 01:24 Warent wrote:
A bunch of generic pro-town things being advocated. He provides a (bad) summary of events in the thread and... that's it.


I was not providing a summary of events in the thread - I was summing up your actions. Perhaps it wasn't clear enough, no worries, hopefully this will make things more clear.

##Vote Rainbow

As far as policies goes, this is my opinion: we should not lynch people based on whims, misinterpretations or lies.
Rainbows third, so called, case against Saraf is completely based on either an obvious misinterpretation or a lie.

Saraf:
even if the spammiest asshole is just some poor well-meaning fattie (who should have applied the litmus test "does this post help town?")


Rainbow:
I think we should all rally around lynching Saraf, because he called me town and expressed interest in lynching someone he called probably town.


Rainbow:
Saraf seems to know I'm town, because he refers to me as such and tells me how I should be playing.


Saraf has never called Rainbow town. Even if does NOT equal probably town! Rainbow must know this.

I don't think this is a misinterpretation, I think this is Rainbow trying to create something out of nothing. Most likely reason the obvious one - he is scum. And he's not helping himself when he refuses to explain his own action but rather continue to accuse others.


You were summing up the thread because I was the only one doing things.

Saraf literally said: EVEN IF YOU'RE TOWN YOU SHOULD BE LYNCHED. Your defence is lawlzy, please try harder.

He did. And you are trying to make Even if you are into probably are. These are two very different statements. What reasons do you have for twisting the meaning like that, unless you are trying to promote a miss-lynch?
On April 06 2013 08:23 Warent wrote:
On April 06 2013 08:01 Fishgle wrote:
jarjar needs to stop lurking and explain his vote. i also want to see TheRavensName, jampidampi, and Moloch post more so I can get better reads on them.

However, the more i look at Warent's entrance though, the scummier it looks. He gets mad at Rainbows for questioning him and then casts an emotional vote, despite not having any evidence. I think Rainbows was just throwing out votes to create discussion. Warent however, seems dead set on lynching rainbows, and argues semantics.

Now, there's an interesting back'n'forth between rainbow and warent. The most interesting thing about it is that while rainbows is defending his vote, warent instead is defending saraf. What I think happened is that rainbows blindfired, got a lucky hit on a skinny (saraf), and then warent came in to try to defend his skinny exercise buddy. It doesn't help that Saraf is so anti-"spam". Obzy has posted just as much as rainbows, and i don't see anyone complaining that he's "spamming". Discussion is useful. What are we supposed to do, chit chat about nothing while the skinnys kill us off? True, some of rainbow's posts have been less substantial than i would have liked, but he got some discussion going. I don't think that's anything to get lynched over.


I enter with a suspicion and I provided a case. As far as evidence go: I caught rainbow trying to to push towards a lynch based on a misinterpretation that has been pointed out to him several times - yet he argues that his interpretation is the correct one. Why are you ignoring what I wrote in that post?

Cute theory.

Need to sleep now.
On April 06 2013 17:00 Warent wrote:
Obzy,

Before we forget about this: My initial concern was not about his first post. It was the lie (?) in this post that caught my attention: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=405359&currentpage=8#148
. A lie/misinterpretation you seem to be completely okey with? Even though you later point at the same post at Sarafs and say it yourself - it even wasn't about Rain + Show Spoiler +
Obzy: I don't know what to think of Raven. He hasn't really posted enough - only his last two posts have content I care about;
Why does he think Saraf called Rain an asshole and an idiot? "even if the spammiest asshole is just some poor well-meaning fattie" - how is that implying Rain, unless it's taken for granted that Rain is a spammy asshole? >_>;;; Also, how did Rain interpret it to be calling him out? - -; w/e. I would like to see Raven post more. Raven, are you implying that nobodywonder is town (haven't read him yet, will form an opinion momentarily) with this post?


Up until know you've been careful, but now you've decided TRN is a good lynch target - why? Any other reason than Meta stuff? You think Rains case against him is good, care to elaborate some?
On April 06 2013 17:02 Warent wrote:
Clarification: the same post Rain was misinterpreting of Sarafs and you seem to interpret it like most others.
Man is he harping on that one post that rainbows made. And what better way to try to solidify that case? Kill Saraf and have him flip green.















JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 12 2013 15:50 GMT
#968
On April 13 2013 00:37 Warent wrote:
The only thing against me seems to be: I don't trust Rain. When reading the above posts - is NOT trusting Rain a reason to be lynched for?
Yes because he HAS TO BE the vigilante. That's the same point against Raven. Please answer me: how terrible would scum have to be to make that fake claim on day 1? It just would never happen.

So you've been focusing on a blue role the entire game. And then who is the other person you focused on? Obzy, another blue.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 12 2013 15:57 GMT
#974
On April 13 2013 00:37 Warent wrote:
And his last contribution:
Show nested quote +
remember: get jarjars; then go from there.



Oh, you want to bring up dead guys last contributions? I got one:

On April 11 2013 06:25 Obzy wrote:
At this time, Warent is 100% scum IMHO, and it will take a miracle for me to not vote him. Like literally there would have to be a ray of light fall upon my car in the middle of a storm as i drive home and fucking jesus would levitate down and gently rest his hand on my car's side-view mirror as I stop, stupified, and say "Please don't lynch Warent." - in perfect english, mind you - and then fly away surrounded by doves and a choir of angels

If that doesn't happen I'm voting Warent. You never know, though!
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 12 2013 16:50 GMT
#991
On April 13 2013 01:47 Rainbows wrote:
FISHGLE, SMANCER, MOLOCH, NW, JJD --- WHICHEVER ONES ARE TOWN VOTE WARENT

My vote's been on him a while dude. Hopefully some of these other guys show up soon.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 13 2013 04:30 GMT
#1063
Holy shit what a crazy last 5 minutes? So does this mean warrent is town? Raven obviously has to be scum so I don't see how warrent can be too. I woulda bet anything they were scumbuddies.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 15 2013 13:40 GMT
#1092
Sigh. I was gonna come on here and say I was willing to basically follow our confirmed townies, rainbows and warrent, as long it wouldn't require me voting for myself. Sorry but I suck @ scumhunting, as anyone who played w/ me last game can attest to. I don't really know what to say to defend myself since I've voted for townies basically the whole way through (although I was all over ravens if u guys recall). @ least we wont lose after you lynch me, though it's gonna put us @ lylo again.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 15 2013 18:55 GMT
#1096
On April 16 2013 02:20 Smancer wrote:
There is of course the low probablity of you (rainbows) being scum with Raven, and you purposefully NKing one of your own (raven) to guarantee a win for scum and to fake confirm you as town Vig. After all, who could possibly point there finger at you now.
Is this legal?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 15 2013 20:20 GMT
#1100
##Vote Rainbows

It's the only thing that makes sense


I remember reading Rainbows saying that he was gonna shoot warrent and was thinking how terrible of a lie that was but didn't say anything just in case the mafia were idiots and believed him.

I totally didn't think of the possibility of scum shooting scum. But it would explain the fact that there was only one death last night. And look rainbows last post where he says: "If you're town JJD, which very well may happen, I believe NW + Fishgle are the scumteam." That means that after I flip green, he's gonna go after those 2. And even if one of them is scum, we still lose.

If you guys still lynch me, @ least lynch rainbows tomorrow.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 15 2013 20:25 GMT
#1101
On April 13 2013 09:20 Rainbows wrote:
I think moloch is town. NW is town warent is town. Raven is confirmed scum for that move he pulled.

So then like his next post he says he's gonna shoot warrent. Like I said, I just thought was just a dumb bluff that the mafia would never fall for.

So now, not only did they fall for it, but for some reason they decided not to shoot anyone?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
April 15 2013 23:23 GMT
#1103
I don't expect people to switch off of me. But don't just follow rainbows blindly after this. I think there's a decent chance the scum made the crazy play of shooting one of their own. Nothing else makes sense about last night.

After I flip green, I really think that you guys should really consider killing rainbows tomorrow. Check his filter and see if it makes sense because I think it does.
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