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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 22:20 GMT
#595
On March 27 2013 07:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 07:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 07:09 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2013 07:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 07:06 marvellosity wrote:
Dandel, how are you so sure it's yamato?

does it matter?


Yes, because knowing it was yamato would help my read on him, but as it is I'm not sure in the slightest it's him. So if it is, I'd like to know how/why you think so.

It'd be an awesome opportunity to free yourself from the shackles of meta though.

You could be free.


I'm not looking on advice on how to play. Are you going to tell me or not?

That's not a good attitude bro.

You should always look to improve.


I guess that means I won't tell you. I only mentioned it because acro said something stupid about how he needs to know who smurfdude is to get a read - a ridiculous notion.

It's not really a meaningful topic to talk about - I think it's yam, that should be enough. Anything further is clutter.

You'll either take my "read" on his person as is, and if you don't, then you wouldn't if i explained it either.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 22:48 GMT
#606
On March 27 2013 07:35 Hapahauli wrote:
Btw, can we just end the "who is the smurf" stuff? It's the most pointless converation ever. I want to talk about scum-reads, and not htis crap.

That's what I'm saying.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 26 2013 22:55 GMT
#610
So, about lynching smurf.

We should totally do it.
Sheep me.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:31 GMT
#828
Okay CAN WE FUCKING LYNCH SMURF NOW

Dude is obvious scum. I dunno why there's like no votes on him. wtf.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:32 GMT
#830
Also I won't be around for the deadline, so if y'all could decide now that we indeed lynch yamato, that'd be rad.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:36 GMT
#832
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:36 GMT
#833
Seriously, snb.

What a scummer.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:36 GMT
#834
On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.

I should add "BUT I'D PREFER SMURF OR SNB"
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:37 GMT
#835
On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.

I should add "BUT I'D PREFER SMURF OR SNB"

else it might sound confusing.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:45 GMT
#838
On March 27 2013 21:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 27 2013 21:37 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:31 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:19 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 20:26 Palmar wrote:
Strange the shot didn't get claimed huh?

I'd imagine both factions would want to take credit for the kill, seeing as I was putting pressure on Grack. Since no one claimed the shot I'm going to assume it's a scum-shot. I don't think any townie would be this stupid, and there is a clear scum motivation to shooting Grack.


Which is?

A townie motivation would be to use this lynch to lynch someone else instead of Grack and cause more discussion bla bla.

Scum motivation would be to cause confusion? I dont know, please elaborate


Grack was the preliminary lynch, rarely does the person put under pressure on day 1 actually end up on the chopping block. I could give you multiple examples of this. There is no proper townie motivation to shoot the dude who gets put under pressure early in the game.


So you didnt think he was scum?
You dont sound like you were gonna push Grack today.

Now who would you lynch after that weird nk?

And yeah with anonymous vig, scum probably shot but thats not really the point.


No no, at the time I thought Grack was scum, or he was my best read. But I also re-evaluate the actual lynch on the second half of day 2 every time I play. Again, if you want me to I can point you to multiple instances of this.


Lol meta eh?

So do you want to push Dandel Ion's target today? Or someone else?


I haven't decided.

Why are all the influential people so tightfisted with their reads. WHY? ??? ??
Dandel Ion, im sorry this doesnt include you. Or me. Or anyone except palmar and marv

I wish I was influential.. Then people would actually vote scum-mato.

And usually it just means that they don't have any. Super ez to just say e.g. "I HAVE A READ ON KEIRATHI!" and then not say what read it is so it sounds like you have a read when you really don't. pro plays.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:46 GMT
#839
btw I have tons of great and incredibly correct speculation about the grack daydeath.

But I won't tell anybody.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:46 GMT
#840
Now vote smurf.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:55 GMT
#843
On March 27 2013 21:53 Acrofales wrote:
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On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.

No longer think Marv is scum? Explain.

It's still the truth that trying to lynch marv d1 is a futile effort because of the fanboy hordes. Not much changed there.
As I already said, I won't be around the ~5 hours leading up to the lynch, so even if I wanted to push him, I couldn't.

Whatcha thinking bout snb?
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 12:59 GMT
#845
Also I'm glad I didn't share my awesome daydeath spec.

Acro, why are you pushing Palmar for being "insincere" or w/e, when you see yourself that it would be a really damn bad shot for scum to take, and the explaination for palmar shooting him pretty much only make sense from a town-palm standpoint.
You're blu hunting for no reason. If he did it and wanted to claim, he would have. If you (apparantly) think he's blu, what's the rationale in calling him out on it?
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 13:11 GMT
#849
marv tell me why you think snb is town.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 13:16 GMT
#853
On March 27 2013 22:12 marvellosity wrote:
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On March 27 2013 22:11 Dandel Ion wrote:
marv tell me why you think snb is town.


I don't particularly

You call his early case scumbait. No sense scumbaiting as scum, is there.

In case you get all hairsplitting on me now, because you can't converse like a normal human being, let me ask differently: Why don't you think he's scum?
cuz he totally is.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 13:27 GMT
#862
On March 27 2013 22:22 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 21:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:53 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
Alternatively, I could also lynch snb with pleasure.

I'm fine with prpl too.

No longer think Marv is scum? Explain.

It's still the truth that trying to lynch marv d1 is a futile effort because of the fanboy hordes. Not much changed there.
As I already said, I won't be around the ~5 hours leading up to the lynch, so even if I wanted to push him, I couldn't.

Whatcha thinking bout snb?

I think that SnB qualified his meta quite well:
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On March 26 2013 23:34 strongandbig wrote:
On March 26 2013 14:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 26 2013 14:15 Hapahauli wrote:
On March 26 2013 14:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dudes.

Why are you ignoring SnB's horrible case on Prp?

##Vote: strongandbig


What makes it scummy as opposed to a stupid townie thing?


Because it was stupid and SnB isnt stupid.

Like somethings you can brush away by saying that this dude is dumb, but some you cant.

It looked like he wanted to try and mislynch prp and now its gone HORRIBLY WRONG.
So he disappears.

Insertsmurfhere is not scum I think although dandel is null for me.
(YAY RANDOM READS OUTTA NOWHERE)

So oats I'm glad you think I'm smart. I'm pretty good at atomic physics, it's true. Seven years ago I also got 36/36 on the ACT and 1600 on the real part of the SAT (fucking writing section). So okay suppose I'm smart.

Do you really think that means I can't make a bad case? Or that I can't think a case is good for reasons that other people disagree with? If you really want me to I can point you to past games where I've made cases that everyone else said were bad. I was town in those games. When I'm sum I don't make bad cases, I just don't make cases.

Do you really think I was settin up to "try to push a prplhz lynch" singlehandedly, in a game with people who have much more "mafia rep" than I do, and who have much more time to put in than I have? That doesn't sound like a "smart" thing to do.

(Pro tip if you look in my filter you can even find out what I was actually doing and why! Treasure hunt!)


While knowing his meta can mean he is changing his meta, as scum he has always been completely disengaged (except WLIIA where he played a pretty damned good scum game). So far I'm not getting that feeling from his filter.

Also regarding Smurf: I have no fucking clue what to say about Smurf at the moment. I thought his case on you was terrible, and it could be terrible scummy. However, he has continued to prove that he has no fucking clue on how to play this game. Does that make him scum? I don't know. Hopefully I'll figure it out soon, but for the moment:

et tu, brute

Fine, we'll lynch Nisani today and worry about Marv tomorrow.

I don't understand where you're going with your meta town(?) read on snb.

Protip: He ISN'T making any cases - not even really bad ones.
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 13:31 GMT
#867
On March 27 2013 22:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 22:25 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:51 Acrofales wrote:
On March 27 2013 11:01 marvellosity wrote:
Hi Acro, I need you to explain something for me. This in particular.

On March 27 2013 05:08 Acrofales wrote:

There are a bunch of people I think could be scum as well. Cora, Sinani and OO are currently vying for second spot. I just looked over OO's town meta in Fruity and LX and it is very different from his play this game. Far more engaged and discussing things with people, less over-analysing and vague reads.


I played in Fruity and Obvious made a grand total of about 10 posts on Day 1 there. Most of them trolling in a nonsensical fashion and in fact not engaging with people at all. I also found him scummy in LX on Day 1 (OO can verify this). You seem to be asserting the opposite, why?

Like... what the hell am I reading. You are defending Marv based on a meta read that he DIRECTLY contradicts. You can see Marv thinking this game is more similar because OO is more active here, when his OWN impression of Fruity was that OO was an inactive, unengaged troll.


Marv was questioning your meta read on OO from fruity and LX

Marv saw uninterested, scummy looking OO from Fruity and LX
You didnt.

He wanted to know where you are coming from, because he didnt see what you saw on day 1 of those games.


1. That's not what I asked.
2. You're not who I asked.
3. You haven't said what you think of Marv.

WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BOTHER MAKING THIS POST?


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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 13:35 GMT
#870
Since we're now 15, we only need 8 people to lynch, correct?
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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 27 2013 14:44 GMT
#894
On March 27 2013 23:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 23:36 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:30 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:21 Palmar wrote:
I can fight my own battles marv.

Oats, you're smarter than this. The shot was a scumshot, any townie would claim it by now. I doubt we have a multi-shot day-vig that also happens to be retarded enough to shoot early day 1.

So assume I'm scum, and explain to me the thought process behind the shot. I could've probably ridden the Grack lynch out the day as scum, and all this does is cast doubt on me as someone got shot based on an early read by me.

So the only logical scenario where I'm scum is that some random townie decided to test my read and proceed to not claim the shot.

Dudes are stupid in mafia, shit happens.

If you were a JOAT with a dayvig and you wanted to kill Grack.(I have extra info ^_^)
WHY IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD WOULD YOU CLAIM??

If you are scum with anonymous dayvig, WHY WOULD YOU SHOOT LYNCHBAIT INSTEAD OF MARV.
WHAT THE FUCK PALMAR.

WHY IS YOUR DEFENSE HINGING ON THE GRACK SHOT.


actually sure, that works. I forget that while a multi-shot day vig is OP a joat could work.

Whatever guess I'm scum in your eyes then. But who cares really.

Can you tell us how to proceed?


By lynching you, and by SnB answering my question and not being a dick.
Mostly SnB answering my question.
I dont like dickish behaviour.
grr.


You don't actually have to lynch me if you want me dead, that's a completely different issue.

Assume you cannot get me lynched, or well... since you cannot get my lynched, who else should we go after?

Why you gotta be so mean.

The problem is that I dont really have any strong scummy opinions on anyone else.

Now that I think about it, Acro in Personality was a lot more 'flowy'(went with the flow) than here so I dont really think he is scum even if he is rude.

Nisani seems like lynchbait/noob scum, do you want to try and change my mind?
Prp is town.

Umm.
yeah.

how about we lynch marv then.
he real rude and dickish always.
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