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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2013 15:41 GMT
#401
well I thought the issue was with his style of posting
Its a dead horse and we should stop beating it.

Marv, austin basically just read me and Dandel as town. Which is weird. And should be discussed
No gg, No skill.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 13 2013 15:43 GMT
#402
On February 14 2013 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
well I thought the issue was with his style of posting
Its a dead horse and we should stop beating it.

Marv, austin basically just read me and Dandel as town. Which is weird. And should be discussed

Why should it be weird?

Given by how hyper-defensive you are about being called scum, I'd figure you should be happy if somebody says you are town.

There's not much to discuss. I am town, he thinks you are town. Whether that's true or not, not much more is to be said on this matter.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 13 2013 15:45 GMT
#403
On February 14 2013 00:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 00:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
So austin made a really weird post defending me/dandel.

Any thoughts?


Were you referring to this nugget, young Oats?

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 00:21 austinmcc wrote:
On February 14 2013 00:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im pretty innocent.

Anyone with a scumread on me other than Dandel PLEASE SPEAK UP.

Nah you shouldnt think that I am scum because you dont have evidence to back it up.
I don't know why you're so concerned with this, but you don't need to be. It's early and there's not a massive wagon on you.

The number of people with town/scum reads on you does not determine your alignment. You don't magically become town because there are townreads on you. Dandel Ion doesn't seem to be winking you out of existence because of his scum read. So for now, reads on you aren't that important and shouldn't be eating up thread space like this.


If so, I do not believe you are interpreting this gentleman's thoughts in the correct manner.

However, Gentleman austin gave the air of wariness regarding young Oats, and yet has rescinded from this position, or so it would seem. I am curious whether the gentleman was satisfied with what he heard from young Oats.

I think BH made good points, but they rely on the person he's analyzing to be thinking in a certain way. Don't know whether Oats was doing so, or not, so I discount BH's analysis somewhat because of that. Oat's response to BH's pressure was odd, and the answer that Oats gave for what he was using to tell the difference between scum BH and town BH was not satisfactory, but nothing to be done about that.

I wouldn't elect him mayor, but I wouldn't ask a Phoenix to breathe fire on Oats right now, nor would I push him and cause him to Falldown some stairs.
Fe fi fo fum.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 13 2013 15:46 GMT
#404
A phoenix, huh?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2013 15:47 GMT
#405
With the general reluctance of people giving out town reads, and me copping flak for it earlier,

The way he phrased it was that he was too sure that we were town. He subtly said it instead of outright saying 'I think dandel and oats are town' because he knew that he couldnt really back out of that in order to 180, and he looks like he is contributing to break up the 'fight'
No gg, No skill.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 13 2013 15:47 GMT
#406
Yup.
Fe fi fo fum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2013 15:48 GMT
#407
My 'scum BH would play better' is based on the fact that most vets, THAT I HAVE seen, appear townie as scum in most games they roll scum. Granted my sample size is Marv/Palmar and Prome, so possibly that was inaccurate.
No gg, No skill.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 13 2013 15:49 GMT
#408
On February 14 2013 00:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
With the general reluctance of people giving out town reads, and me copping flak for it earlier,

The way he phrased it was that he was too sure that we were town. He subtly said it instead of outright saying 'I think dandel and oats are town' because he knew that he couldnt really back out of that in order to 180, and he looks like he is contributing to break up the 'fight'
You seemed like you wanted to take a vote of who had what read on you. The way I interpreted it, you were then going to post to dandel "This many people think I'm town, you're the only one with a scumread, it can't be right. Neener neener."

That would have been a dumb post and I wanted to cut it off, because your alignment is not dependant on the reads that people have on you. How someone reads you may inform THEIR alignment, but it doesn't have anything to do with yours.
Fe fi fo fum.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 13 2013 15:49 GMT
#409
I think Oats might just be very, very (VERY) egocentric.

Huh.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
February 13 2013 15:50 GMT
#410
Oh shit Prome is a "vet" now.

You made it buddy!
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2013 15:52 GMT
#411
Austin, when have you been the only one to say that someone is scum against all opposition and be right?
For me, it just DOES NOT HAPPEN. Every time that happens, I am wrong and that guy is town.

Yeah Dandel, my head is in the clouds, I cant be seen talking to peasants like you. Oh the embarrassment I must go through in order to play this game.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2013 15:54 GMT
#412
EBWOP: By 'that', I mean I call someone scum and everyone disagrees with me.
No gg, No skill.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 13 2013 15:56 GMT
#413
On February 14 2013 00:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Austin, when have you been the only one to say that someone is scum against all opposition and be right?
For me, it just DOES NOT HAPPEN. Every time that happens, I am wrong and that guy is town.

Yeah Dandel, my head is in the clouds, I cant be seen talking to peasants like you. Oh the embarrassment I must go through in order to play this game.
Every time marv and I disagree on someone. I may not be "right" in the sense that they flip scum, but I'm "right" in the sense that I have some sort of moral obligation to defend my read to the death and also be entirely sure he's wrong.


You are making too much of this again. It's D1. We were a couple hours in. "all opposition" is overkill, given that a bunch of people hadn't posted at all, and only a couple players were defending you. "the only one to say that someone is scum" is entirely wrong, because at the very least BH and DI were attacking you.

Fe fi fo fum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2013 15:59 GMT
#414
BH backed off IIRC.

And you failed to address my main point which was you calling both me and dandel town.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR YOURSELF?
No gg, No skill.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 13 2013 16:00 GMT
#415
On February 14 2013 00:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
BH backed off IIRC.

And you failed to address my main point which was you calling both me and dandel town.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR YOURSELF?

That you are wrong. That I have already said you were wrong. That marv said you misread my post and were wrong.
Fe fi fo fum.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
February 13 2013 16:00 GMT
#416
Good afternoon gentlemen, I hope you're all well

I've been reading everything while at my internship, and this comment caught my eye:

On February 14 2013 00:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
And no, the first job of a townie is to establish his own innocence. As you should know.


Justify this, because that's the last thing that a townie should be worried about imo
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2013 16:00 GMT
#417
, but I'm "right" in the sense that I have some sort of moral obligation to defend my read to the death and also be entirely sure he's wrong

Ever heard of changing your mind? Or maybe you dont want to 180 and look scummy.
No gg, No skill.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
February 13 2013 16:04 GMT
#418
Kurumi, I am in agreement that loud people can limit the enjoyment of this game.

Good to see you playing and not hosting this one.
Fe fi fo fum.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 13 2013 16:07 GMT
#419
So austin, you didnt call me and Dandal town is what you are saying?
Why do you feel the need to justify it with marv's opinion?
No gg, No skill.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
February 13 2013 16:07 GMT
#420
On February 14 2013 01:00 Hassybaby wrote:
Good afternoon gentlemen, I hope you're all well

I've been reading everything while at my internship, and this comment caught my eye:

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 00:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
And no, the first job of a townie is to establish his own innocence. As you should know.


Justify this, because that's the last thing that a townie should be worried about imo

I agree with Dandel. Having amazing reads is good and all, but the reality is that most of us mere mortals are wrong as often (and sometimes even MORE often) than we are right. Proving that you are town is way more beneficial to town as a whole than any individual day's reads.
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