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FiveTouch
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On January 30 2013 19:34 AxleGreaser wrote: Which might explain why I didn't vote for double Lynch. Also curious what Axle means by this, given Toad's entire premise for not double-lynching was incorrect. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 29 2013 20:57 Adam4167 wrote: Just finished a 20 hour shift. I'm not opposed to anyone in this list dying. Still want to kill Vivax for his play this game. Ill be back in the morning when i'm more coherent. On January 31 2013 00:34 Adam4167 wrote: ##Vote Axlegreaser ##Vote Double Lynch Ninja votes, promises to contribute without doing so. Hi Adam. | ||
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FiveTouch
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FiveTouch
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There's only a certain number of people I'm lynching into, and I know who I want to lynch tomorrow. Plus with a double lynch tomorrow we can revive a bit of flagging interest, and town can really debate a target, rather than me (and toad) ruling by diktat. Not being funny but like 90% of town hasn't had a say in a lynch really all game, and I think tomorrow's a pretty good time to do so. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:17 austinmcc wrote: Yeah, the subjective odds are different, and I can take myself out, and all that jazz. But I'm skeptical that a double lynch is going to create oodles of discussion, a lot of us that aren't saying much also didn't say much on our earlier double lynch day (at least about lynch targets), and more skeptical that the value of any extra discussion is higher during the next cycle than one ... 2 or 3 down the road. You were skeptical about gonzaw being mafia because there were no mason claims from people he'd talked to, despite the overwhelming evidence that was his lack of trying to help town when he was outed. I rather say I prefer my judgement on the dynamics and feel of a thread than yours, because you tend to put the emphasis on the wrong things. The last double lynch was decided pretty much before the day arrives, this one is not. Do you know which 2 players we're going to lynch tomorrow? Maybe you can guess, but everyone has different opinions. On Day/Night 2 BKE/Chez was getting pretty damn certain already. So yeah, I think it will force town to be active at this point tomorrow, whereas town has kinda died a bit of a death today, and I think that's a good thing. And I want to eliminate people I think are possibly mafia asap. | ||
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FiveTouch
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I'd rather have these players alive and able to talk about things tomorrow than not. | ||
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FiveTouch
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On January 31 2013 06:38 austinmcc wrote: Mafia has 1 KP max. They're not magically dropping a list of players overnight. irrelevant? if we get a bunch of lynches wrong we're down say 2 more townies from lynches and 2 more almost-confirmed townies from NKs so... double lynch now while they're still around also for other reasons i just mentioned just do what i fucking say for once for god's sake. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
Otherwise... we could double lynch and then there's not so much of an argument about things. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:45 austinmcc wrote: Do what you fucking say is, in part, a problem that you're saying the double lynch will help solve. If we get a bunch of lynches wrong and are losing townies, I don't see how a double lynch helps that. We're magically going to double lynch scum or 2 scum when we couldn't single lynch scum for 2-3 days? ok, i submit to your argument, because you've been so god damn correct this game. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:45 austinmcc wrote: Do what you fucking say is, in part, a problem that you're saying the double lynch will help solve. If we get a bunch of lynches wrong and are losing townies, I don't see how a double lynch helps that. We're magically going to double lynch scum or 2 scum when we couldn't single lynch scum for 2-3 days? also, you appear to be arguing against using a double lynch later, when the only reason we'd use a double lynch later is because we hadn't killed all the mafia yet. so well done there. | ||
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FiveTouch
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FiveTouch
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And then I probably won't be able to stop what I think is a completely suboptimal lynch, and it'll be rubbish. Whereas if we double lynch, town will much more readily agree to my lynch target, if there's another one up for grabs. It's basically a win for everyone. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:58 austinmcc wrote: I'm fine with your judgment when I think it's right  I just don't think it is in this case. I don't see this as a judgment call at all, I think it's just straight-up better to hold our other double lynch for later. That's because you judge the 'maths' or 'objective information' - say gonzaw not masoning anyone - over such things as thread atmosphere and town morale (or gonzaw not doing anything) | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:56 Adam4167 wrote: Hi friend. I didn't feel like I had anything overly important to contribute, so I didn't. Anything you'd care to discuss? I think you're mafia | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 07:08 austinmcc wrote: I swear you didn't type this British before being outed. That still leaves us what you're calling a rubbish lynch tomorrow. In that case it doesn't stop a suboptimal lynch. That wording makes it sound like we'll just robo-lynch your target of choice and then have a normal lynch discussion concerning target #2, instead of just having a normal lynch discussion concerning the only lynch. I'm going to assume this is just poor wording or whatever, and not push this point. If Axle flips mafia, then we have one mafia left to find. I'd much rather lynch the scummiest two guys right away and increase our odds of hitting mafia right then, drastically, then save it for some hypothetical situation later when town might be in trouble and it's a desperation move, rather than it being an empowering move. I would say it amazes me that you can't see this stuff, or don't consider it more important than your arguments, but it doesn't at all, sadly. | ||
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FiveTouch
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On January 31 2013 10:10 yamato77 wrote: Hey axle gives us your reads for when you flip town Your lack of faith is disturbing. annul, answer Stutters' question already. Toad, I thought it might be a good idea to get everyone else to tell town who/why they want to lynch before we do. It can't hurt and it might give us extra information. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 22:24 Toadesstern wrote: I'm going to tell the thread who the last mafia is 2 hours prior to deadline. I'm also going to jail him for maximum success. So make everyone spill out their reads if you want to, I'm not going to stay up until 2am. Why don't you tell us all this in the morning then instead of before the deadline? I'd prefer not to have some wifomy night action stuff again ;p And you can't possibly die, so there's no risk. | ||
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FiveTouch
Marshall Islands1474 Posts
On January 31 2013 22:34 Toadesstern wrote: Because unlike you I have a set of balls and have no problem with calling my read. Yes I'm that certain about the guy being mafia. Ah, ok, thanks for being a complete twat. Np. | ||
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FiveTouch
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FiveTouch
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On January 31 2013 22:44 Toadesstern wrote: I'm also not going to mason anyone anymore. Only useless people left Unless of course... someone being a mason who still hasn't masoned Marv? I might consider masoning you to proxy mason Marv that way. I don't think so... grush masoned me this cycle, and I think that's everybody accounted for? | ||
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