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Im gonna take a big break form the game and go back to work.
Im pissed off at myself for letting this happen; and need a fresh mind.
Iw oudl appreciate if someone else can lead the discussions tonight (other than ask who the JK is, assuming Omni is not lying)
I wonder when we know if TeMiL is being replaced too?
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I dunno Omni.. All I know is: there is [3] confirmed innocent
Im fuckn scared of the TeMiL replacement..
TeMiL = town + Show Spoiler + if TeMiL replaced 2 scum : 4 town
Day3 starts; 2 scum : 3 town = MYLO
TeMiL = scum + Show Spoiler + if TeMiL replaced 2 scum : 4 town
Day 3 starts; 2 scum : 3 town = MYLO
Sylencia.. I am going to treat you as confirmed town. Your approach this game has been very pragmatic and consistent. [If you are scum.. fucking well done.. i tip my hat to you]
zarepath.. Confirmed town
Mocsta.. say what you want about me listing myself.. but I know I am town and I have been consistent in my play through the game. In hindsight I wish I asked more questions than pushed agenda.. but.. I made a decision based on the lack of discussion.
Remaining players (jampidampi, OmniEulogy, Oatsmaster)
The problem I have is.. with a confirmed cop There are 2 game setups (1 scum, 1RB; JK, Cop, 5 VT) or (2 scum ; JK, 6 VT)
Oatsmaster is going to take at least 3 hrs to catch up; so
we need jampidampi & OmniEulogy re-evaluted.
I would focus first on OmniEulogy and whether he can be removed from the equation.
I agree its a risk to just assume Sylencia and me are town.. But no matter what, we are in MYLO Day3.. We have to heed Spags words and take a risk
@zarepath; you did solid research of Spags play.. may I ask you do the same for OmniEulogy.
Sylencia already built a case (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=389091¤tpage=36#706)
I would like your thoughts on this.
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I think I did a freudian slip when writing that.. as in.. was thinking of diff scenario whilst writing about another.. so prob a typo or whatever..
anyways
You admitted yesterday, the case on jampidampi was full of statements that were brought together using assumptions (potentially biased).
jampidampi only additional contribution was to make case 2.0 on me.... do you see merit in upgrading your jampi case to 2.0, and removing any confirmation bias?
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TeMiL = town
if TeMiL NOT replaced 2 scum : 3 town
Day3 starts; 2 scum : 2 town = Insta loss
TeMiL = scum
if TeMiL replaced 1 scum : 4 town
Day 3 starts; 1 scum : 3 town = MYLO
Mod.. if my maths are right, if TeMiL was town and we can't find a replacement, the game is over... (1) is there a deadline to find a replacement & (2) if there is a deadline (say 12hrs for example).. and there is no replacement, and TeMiL was town, can we just end the game prematurely?
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Looks like everyone left are active during my night time.. (i.e. not now)
I personally have read through the filters of Sylencia and OmniEulogy and come to a conclusion.
I will prob pop back into the thread in 8hrs, hopefully there will be people to discuss this further.
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On January 08 2013 14:25 jampidampi wrote: (1)As for my actions on Mocsta, I tried to put myself in the shoes of a town Mocsta, but did not find reasons as to why he would not answear my question.
(2)If Mocsta had made some fair points as to what flipped his opinion on you, I would propably not have though of him as scum.
(1) I didn't answer because you are not in a position to be questioning others.. It is you who needs to be answering questions.
If you need.. i can search for multiple questions directed at you, none of which you have answered in recent times.
The most recent, being from Sylencia.
(2) I have my thoughts on OmniEulogy; and plan to share later, when others are on the forum.
Again, I do not think with your current town credibility, you are in a position to demand answers to your questions; in particular when you do not answer questions directed at you.
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Im goign to bed soon..
only reason i asked was.. Omni was 50/50 to spag.
So his 3 choices for mafia were based on (jampi, temil, OE).
OE could be cleared if JK opened his mouth.. but i assume.. they would wait till Day3 to say anything (otherwise will be shot night 2).
This is all assuming we get a replacement for TeMiL... if TeMiL is town and no replacement.. the game is over
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jampidamp..
just woke up.. look.. theres 2 hrs to the deadline, and so far, no replacement.
if town surives into day3, and im alive, i will answer you. but, dont even know if the game will continue.. so.. im not going to bother with 2 hrs left.
look, thanks for donig a post-by-post of me, im sure it would have taken a while... prob was a waste of time in the end, but what can ya do.
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Last post for Night2.
hey guys.. i don't think a town player would have been so tunnel minded as jampidampi during the Day 2/Night 2 events.. so its obvious he is scum... if somehow this game till goes on, might as when vote him out Day2. [There were some major events happening Day 2, and he did not contribute at all, instead, claiming to spend the whole day making a case on me.. thats real effective scum hunting right there...)
I have my thoughts on between Omni/TeMiL.. but dont want to bulid association cases.. so.. take out jampi first... then if a JK can step up, I guess Omni is innocent, and if a JK doesn't step up.. Omni will need to be scrutinised..
Good luck.
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yep.. i thought u were the JK omni
good kill by them
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hmmm so its sylencia or jampi.
@zarepath.. u commented on sylencia being fishy before.. what are your thoughts now?
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Omni.. i appreciate you calling me strong (same goes to cora).. but.. the feedback im getting doesnt agree.. so .... i think its just i have a style that dominates this low feedback forum (newbie games).. but happens in the non-newbie.. i shall sink massively.. who knows.
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OK Guys.. there are now 2 confirmed townies.....
Omni targeted me and the kill happened (TeMiL was dead, so couldnt put an action in.. thus.. only 1 mafia existed for kill) and zarepath is cop confirmed.
its officially a toss up between Sylencia/jampidampi
The count is 3:1; and are in MYLO.
@zarepath.. i know I already asked.. but now that you know I AM CONFIRMED town.
can you please share your thoughts on Sylencia vs jampidampi
@jampi You have spent an entire Day2/Night2.. working on a case on me.. I am not CONFIRMED town. zarepath is confirmed town.
Please make your case on Sylencia, for zarepath and myself to consider.
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@Sylencia; @jampidampi
To prove, I am seriously giving consideration to which of you two is mafia.
I present to jampidampi the following Olive Branch.
##Unvote: jampidampi
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I did not get roleblocked.
BUT.. NK >> JK power
and scum RB >>JK Power
I know this. because last game I was the JK.. and was aggressive like Omni and tried to block the kill.. then act as a medic..
anyways.. now that I know Omni breadcrumb was from Night 1.. I can understand why he was RB'd.
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I took the coaches advice and re-evaluated.
I actually have questions for you both... but will be patient and wait for jampi to come back to what you said.
zare prob wont be here for 10-12hrs..i hope he votes with me, 2-2 split will do us no good.
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EBWOP:
I decided to re-evaluate my reads on Sylencia and jampidampi.
I noticed peculiarities that about both of you, that I think is worth addressing.
Before, issuing my questions, I will be patient and wait for jampidampi to come back.
@jampidampi.. 4hrs has expired since the Night2 action. I know that you have typically made posts around this time. So I am going to give you a full 8hrs from now to respond that you have acknowledged what has been put forth post-Night2. I dont care right now if you are working on a case.. what i need to know now is that you are present among us.
If you do not post acknowledgement, and statement of intentions within the next 12 hrs I will have no choice but to lay my vote down your name. The justification being that (1) I know from timestamps, you typically post around this time. (2) Giving how critical we are with numbers.. there is no way you would not have shown activity. Lack of activity this stage of the game = scum play.
In your time, it would be 2am.. I am goign to give you to 8pm your time to respond....
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