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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 01:13 GMT
#161
Actually answer the question. Explain why you think lynching a lurker over a minor/moderate scumread is bad.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Arnarnion
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada39 Posts
December 04 2012 01:26 GMT
#162
Alright
1) I haven't played a game yet, but I did obs XXXII
2) I am of the opinion that lynches should be saved for top scum reads and that removing inactive players might not be as productive for town as it is for scum, since were just doing their work for them.
3)(Oats)- Don't give me none of that pie or cheesecake, the only true dessert is ice cream.
(CC)- Green.
The Omega Spider of Hip-Hop
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 04 2012 01:29 GMT
#163
pocorn mode on
lolcat <= a C&C warning
// mafia needs has and moreover deserves visuals
{on cue}{Enters stage right}{runs into the spotlight}
{leaps in the air and pirouettes}
{lands delicately on one foot, falls flat on face}
{rolls around on floor like a beached whale}
{struggles in an ungainly manner to feet}
{spins around , fingers spread wide}

“#*#Fos everyone in the Room, yer all scum!”
{pauses, gears turn, looks carefully at fingers, notices a spare one, looks skyward}
“#*#Fos the host too, yer all scum, until evidence of intention proves otherwise!”

Thinks<I like Lego House and I like chocolate.>
<so obviously simple logic proves a chocolate Lego house must be double yummy!>
“#*#unFos host yer now my top read from beginning to the very end!.”

Thinks so if what you say is true... in this game Roles... then
{Rechecks PM.}
“#*#unFos me I know know 100% what I am. Now you will too.”

A valid Association case first post day 1 !rulez.

end Lolcat
popcorn mode off.


I believe yamato and Oats were asked a question? I have not yet heard an actual answer
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
December 04 2012 01:29 GMT
#164
@yamato I'll answer your #3 because it is so relevant: cheesecake of course (of the Mr. variety)

Now on to CC's questions... =P

1. I've played 2 games of mafia, NMM XXVIII and XXX, town in both. First was vig, second vt. I obs'd a good amount of chrono until it became overwhelming (think I got 140 pages in then my head exploded) and all of last NMM, and some of paranoid. Played a lot of sc2mafia the past week or two which probably translates to shit for TL mafia skills, but we'll see.

2. No idea cheese, I feel like that scenario would have to be played out however it should be at the time. I can't see myself leaning one way or the other 100% of the time =/ Probably lean towards lurker lynch I guess? minor-moderate is going to be pretty subjective...

3. Green. I'll let you figure out why (spoiler: it's cause I'm a genius).
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 01:32 GMT
#165
But Arn, don't you think lurking players make it harder for town to GET those scum reads? That is, if everyone is lurking, it makes it easier for mafia to blend in because the baseline for contribution level is lower as a result.

I think we can at least pressure lurkers with the policy lynch into posting more so that it makes more difficult for scum to hide.
Writer@WriterYamato
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
December 04 2012 01:32 GMT
#166
On December 04 2012 10:26 Arnarnion wrote:
Alright
1) I haven't played a game yet, but I did obs XXXII
2) I am of the opinion that lynches should be saved for top scum reads and that removing inactive players might not be as productive for town as it is for scum, since were just doing their work for them.
3)(Oats)- Don't give me none of that pie or cheesecake, the only true dessert is ice cream.
(CC)- Green.


Regarding #2, what about scum who lurk? I think that's the point of it. Obviously if we knew all lurkers were town we'd never want to lynch them over a semi-scummy player.
sour_eraser
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada932 Posts
December 04 2012 01:33 GMT
#167
1. My first game here! :o
2. I would lynch a lurker but not on D1 because lack of information. Other days, Yes I am in favor more so than minor scumbead. Someone not contributing, or contributing very little has no value to the town IMO. But then... I have no experience in this field I might be wrong :o
3. Black / I don't like pie and cheesecake
"What's the f*cking point of censoring a letter if everyone and their mother knows what it stands for.... F*cking morons"
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 01:34 GMT
#168
On December 04 2012 10:29 AxleGreaser wrote:
pocorn mode on
lolcat <= a C&C warning
// mafia needs has and moreover deserves visuals
{on cue}{Enters stage right}{runs into the spotlight}
{leaps in the air and pirouettes}
{lands delicately on one foot, falls flat on face}
{rolls around on floor like a beached whale}
{struggles in an ungainly manner to feet}
{spins around , fingers spread wide}

“#*#Fos everyone in the Room, yer all scum!”
{pauses, gears turn, looks carefully at fingers, notices a spare one, looks skyward}
“#*#Fos the host too, yer all scum, until evidence of intention proves otherwise!”

Thinks<I like Lego House and I like chocolate.>
<so obviously simple logic proves a chocolate Lego house must be double yummy!>
“#*#unFos host yer now my top read from beginning to the very end!.”

Thinks so if what you say is true... in this game Roles... then
{Rechecks PM.}
“#*#unFos me I know know 100% what I am. Now you will too.”

A valid Association case first post day 1 !rulez.

end Lolcat
popcorn mode off.


I believe yamato and Oats were asked a question? I have not yet heard an actual answer

You were asked plenty of questions but you responded to none.

I gave my answer to the lurker lynch idea in the thread quite explicitly.
Writer@WriterYamato
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 04 2012 01:38 GMT
#169
Oats you seem strangely quiet to me?
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
December 04 2012 01:39 GMT
#170
Oats seems suspicious to me with his first post. I suggest we lynch him.

Also, Axle, opinion on lurker lynching over a moderate scumread - GO.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Arnarnion
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada39 Posts
December 04 2012 01:40 GMT
#171
Yam and Rad. You guys make good points, I guess what I mean is that it should be used as a last resort, since some lurkers are just town that have their reasons for sitting out, like Munkee or Aqua in last newbie game, and won't stop lurking just because of the lurker lynch policy exists as pressure. Also, less information seems to come out of taking the easy lynch, whereas going for the contentious choice forces both town and scum to come up with better arguments than just "well, have to get rid of someone at the end of the day".
The Omega Spider of Hip-Hop
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 01:41 GMT
#172
Got home from school early hurray.

This will be my third game, my first game was Mario Mini Mafia where we won as town, my second game was Newbie Mini Mafia XXXI where I lost as scum. On lurker lynch policy I am of the opinion you lynch top scum reads, that is the goal of the game after all. If someone lurking seriously becomes an issue then they can be dealt with at the adequate time.
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 04 2012 01:43 GMT
#173
I have played in no TL games. I watched XXXI from outside of obs in real time.
Which I found instructive.
I have not played any other mafia anywhere. Although last night i had dream and I think I once did talk about mafia 20 years ago but I dont really remember.
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 04 2012 01:45 GMT
#174
Ok that looks liek queestion I need to answer.

> Also, Axle, opinion on lurker lynching over a moderate scumread - GO.
The answer is in the story above.

Everybody is intially suspicious until shown otherwise by evidence of intention.
If i was hunting scum and i am I could answer promptly.
cont in next post
Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 01:45 GMT
#175
Kick - what is the adequate time? day 2? day 3? the longer you let lurkers lurk the easier it is for mafia to blend in.

Axle - why are you avoiding talking about lurker lynches?
Writer@WriterYamato
AxleGreaser
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1154 Posts
December 04 2012 01:48 GMT
#176
The evidence is in addressing the question and not looking for the other bits of fluff to use as distraction.
yes i was asked many questions some of them repeats. Some of them no longer important if someone is finding
it hard to say how they feel on the lurker lynch question.

Thats why I sat there hanging in the silence waiting to post.


Axle(OnlySomeTheoriesToAbsurdToBeConsidered)Greaser
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 01:49 GMT
#177
That depends entirely on how much the person is lurking and many other factors. Point is enacting a lurker lynch is silly because if everyone says "Ok we will lynch lurkers" then why would mafia lurk? Trick question - they wouldn't. The goal is to find scum - anyone putting any other objective above this is suspect to me.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 01:49 GMT
#178
Why are you finding it hard to say something?
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
December 04 2012 01:50 GMT
#179
On December 04 2012 10:49 Kickstart wrote:
That depends entirely on how much the person is lurking and many other factors. Point is enacting a lurker lynch is silly because if everyone says "Ok we will lynch lurkers" then why would mafia lurk? Trick question - they wouldn't. The goal is to find scum - anyone putting any other objective above this is suspect to me.

That's WIFOM and a bad argument. Also, even if you are correct in your conclusion that mafia wouldn't lurk, it is actually good for town because that gives them more chances to distinguish themselves from the average townie.
Writer@WriterYamato
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
December 04 2012 01:51 GMT
#180
Not sure why so many of you are hung up on discussing lurker lynch, say what you have to say and move on as it is a pretty useless discussion in terms of trying to discern peoples roles.
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