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EBWOP.
The opening phrases of alarge sample of arns posts all in one place
Arnarnion's filter is short it does not take long to see
"Alright"
"Yam and Rad. You guys make good points,"
"That is fair Kick, but we still haven't heard a thing from Sylencia yet"
"CC, hard to say, but based off of what I saw"
"Oats I have a question for you, isn't Kick's behavior right now"
"Then what about Yam pursuing a line of questions on Axle is scummy?"
"Also Oats, I would be inclined to agree, since his jump on you last game"
"Sorry if I'm off base right now man, but I'm looking at Kick, his wishy washy
approach on Yam Man has me pretty uneasy. "
"CC I think the scum agenda comes not just from his initial FoS, but his behavior afterwards."
which is to {<<<< dunno even why I wrote that. Apparently i thought it was important so I leave it }
"CC, do YOU have any reads on Kick?"
"God damn, I feel like a broken record, but jidol, what is your stance?
Do you have any reads on Kick or Oats?"
What is the intent of bringing the case? WHen I do it is to get the target to respond
"cc I was kinda vocal for awhile now that I've thought Kick has been suspect, and I would also
appreciate if you would address the problems in the case as you see it, instead of just dismissing it."
Wel the fighting didnt go dont as desired. (Push me pull you on Kick)
"As you can see as of right now I'm not voting for anyone. While I am less convinced than I was that
Kick is scum, I'm also not ready to say that that makes Oats scum. The fight that broke out between
them seems more of a town on town altercation to me."
tries to divert to a lurker lynch
"....So I'm going to #---- #Vote: Sylencia"
##Vote @Arnarnion
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EBWOP FUCK Clock in bedroom is diff Sorry Boss. yeah I am done
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Now for the Bus.
Today you are going to Vote for either I or Arnion or you make up your own minds on a third.
Tomorrow another two will be chosen between and then you win or lose.
I have a third .
I really feel that shooting Kick could have made me focus on Yam and Rad. The were two lynches
providing I dont get lynched there is enough time. But why wont I get Lynched, merely becuasse
I know I am town is not enough other people must know that too. But if I didnt consider that
that would be a good sucker bait story. I was wrong there were 3 lynches I just cant count.
Intuition caused me to swap votes without even counting properly. Now theres a derp...
With me its not turtles but derp moments all the way down.
What on earth do we do with two Lynches, What do I do, I have to find the one, or do I?
What if I could target one, create a real argument that I ought get lynched first as that
might well provide more information, then the rest could choose with more wisdom tomorrow!!
Hey look Right solution wrong problem? maybe. Actually perhaps I was mant to get here by lynching
the wrong person yesterday... weee splat on face again. Good thing I dont mind. This is how I learn.
Never mind whats that itchy feeling I have in the back of my head. Its Arnarnion.
Am I suffering conformation bias becuase I am not allowed to suspect Arnarnion becuase of out of
game stuff? The roles will have been chosen randomly, except I am still alittle uneasy about the
host. I must I have been told trust my feel reads more.
What if there is something i dont know about myself that I will only find out if I go under a bus.
hey that could have worked with 3 lynches if I had got here yesterday.
Oh well lets make it work with two. I just have to go under the bus first!
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Axle, Arn already got lynched and flipped town.
Do you read the whole thread before you post because I really don't think you do.
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Dont do anything please......... just for alittle more.
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No I didnt read it at all , as i said meant to have several hours where I posted that but not the self under the bus argument first
if the arnion vote seemed to hold water than i was going to argue that if Arn didnt turn up
red then, I was tomorrows best lynch without question.
if it was indeed without question then I ought get lynched today. Why?
Well if lynching me today turns up more infortion it could have led to a better informed lynch tomorrow.
weird logic but I think its correct that that would have been better.
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My biggest problem is I have pro town read on everyone that is left.
Id like the rest of you to consider only yourselves as you have known one another longest.
Does your play within, just this game, seem like it is pro town play.
Your play styles to me appear to run in pairs, I could identify the pairs, but that leaves me
without a pair, that is of course unless it is the host.
There were times when i was put under a microscope, I reacted badly to that
Indeed I got to believing they were the problem.
I then realized (not when I changed my vote (that was luck) but shortly after)
The people doing that are thus pro town.
I have also have pro town read on Sylencia.
jidolboy has a claimed role and there are no counter claims.
and then there is me...
as in my first post and explained here
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17135766
I do indeed check every bodies motives. Even my own.
This is a thing.
Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. However, this does not mean that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing.
That means i must play to win. When playing this game you cant choose a style of play that is optimal for whatever
team you are on that round, you must choose style of play that works in the long run for which ever one you play
this time.
Now if the host is the matching pair to me and it is lying to me, then you have problem.
So if this was a few hours ago I would have suggested lynch me first that is for me playing to win.
Even now I cant say I am more suspicious of any player in the game than the host.
Oh and BTW me pointing me like that, doesn't make me a less useful lynch target at all.
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No I hadn't even read the flavor until now my first feel read on that is.
##FOS The host
As such I am going to reread some rules.... and see just how far they could be stretched by
a host with an evil sense of humor.
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On December 12 2012 10:14 Rad wrote:Sigh, arn. Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 10:06 Sylencia wrote:
Yep, pretty sure yamato is the last scum we are looking for. Based on your previous thoughts, or did this flip add to it? Show nested quote +On December 12 2012 10:09 jidolboy wrote:
Well well well
At least we found more about this town.... Considering you're the only confirmed town, being less cryptic would be great.
Mainly still based on my previous thoughts, but remember that before that I was thinking it was either Arn or Jidol. Now that both are town, and the information I have, it seems like it's yam.
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On December 12 2012 10:06 Sylencia wrote:
Yep, pretty sure yamato is the last scum we are looking for.
Unfortunately he is my top town read.
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Host feel free to comment if you like. How stretchy are you rules?
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"4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game."
Host are you outside the game? or are you a player too?
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hey host I have been noticing that you appear to not answer any questions at all.
Normally you do don't you? Are you the host Lurking? or just got no voice at all.
If you are a playa, can you take any actions in this game at all?
Please reply when you have time, Id like to ask you some questions about the rules of this game that You made?
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Oh and while i am sure i cant get mod killed for what i am doing.
trusting my best feel reads.
here they are
if I get nkd tonight try this out tomorrow try 'voting to lynch the host' and see if he claims it is against the rules.
That will teach him for having no voice and being the ultimate lurker SK.
if I dont get nkd tonight but someone else does.
I suggest those who are left
try 'voting to lynch' the host and see if he claims it is against the rules.
if I no one gets nkd tonight.
then we can no lynch tomorrow
if I no one gets nkd again
then we can no lynch again
That would be optimal play for the host BTW. yeah host never stopped wondering about you never will
that how you get kept in check.
Lastly if somehow you get to day when there are only two players left in the game but somehow its not over
definitely Lynch the host. Even if he suddenly stops lurking.
I know that may appear that it doesnt make sense but does it at least parse ?
paranoia mafia indeed.
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Well he's back to FOS on the host so I guess he is regressing all the way.
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On December 12 2012 12:12 AxleGreaser wrote:
hey host I have been noticing that you appear to not answer any questions at all.
Normally you do don't you? Are you the host Lurking? or just got no voice at all.
If you are a playa, can you take any actions in this game at all?
Please reply when you have time, Id like to ask you some questions about the rules of this game that You made?
The Hosts are not a part of the game. We are here to facilitate others in playing the game. That is our sole purpose and motivation. Votes for the hosts are meaningless. Votes for deceased players are meaningless.
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EBWOP (writing it tighter.)
On December 12 2012 12:27 AxleGreaser wrote:
Oh and while i am sure i cant get mod killed for what i am doing. Especially unceremoniously.
Trusting my best feel reads.
here they are
Apart from the first lynch, where you guys lynched a player for what you regarded as scum play.
But at that time I couldn't really see it although i did try hard as i knew how to find out.
You are however correct, you cant always stand back, I have looked for scum nearly got rad lynched then
changed my mind onto Yam, but then again reinterpreted it all again and found the pattern of town
motivation there too. They both tried to find out if I was town. That is a town thing to do.
At first I didn't understand and thought it was scum play. Problem is they cant both be scum so one of them must
have been making it as a town play and the best person, to suspect the other as a buddy is the one being buddied.
So unless they want to accuse one another I don't.
If I get nk'd tonight try this out tomorrow try 'voting to lynch Ghost_403' and see if he claims it is against the rules.
That will teach him for having no voice and being the ultimate lurker SK.
if I don't get nk'd tonight but someone else does.
I suggest those who are left
try 'voting to lynch Ghost_403' and see if he claims it is against the rules.
I will try that first if you like. (it has occurred to me it may be against the rules for me to vote for him)
If I try voting for him and it is against someone else will need to try and see if it against the rules for them too.
if I no one gets nkd tonight.
then we can no lynch tomorrow
if I no one gets nkd again
then we can no lynch again
That would be optimal play for the host BTW..... yeah host never stopped wondering about you never will
that is how you get kept in check.
Lastly if somehow you get to a day when there are only two players left in the game but somehow its still not over
definitely Lynch the host. Even if he suddenly stops lurking.
I know that may appear that it doesnt make sense but does it at least parse ?
paranoia mafia indeed.
Assuming we get to tomorrow but some active 'agent' executes another person tonight
and it is not me that gets nk'd.
Another option is you/me/we cant ever lynch the host, and that your only option to stop the scum plan is to lynch me. I am good with that.
If it is the case that we cant vote for the host, then the best other lynch, not because I am not town, I do keep checking that PM. If you cant lynch the host, then either there is no way to win. or the only way to win is for you guys to lynch me. I will vote first on that one.
As the case I am arguing is against the host, and i am effectively rebelling against his evil plan for this game.
I would like to choose an earlier time for my personal deadline, then go AFK, to be clear i mean it.
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The Hosts are not a part of the game. We are here to facilitate others in playing the game. That is our sole purpose and motivation. Votes for the hosts are meaningless. Votes for deceased players are meaningless.
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Cool.
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