what purpose does causing massive distraction on a prominent townie serve?

let me think

is he bussing me? or am I town? shitting things up is totally a mafia motive

marvellosity

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September 14 2012 02:27 GMT

#843

This game was actually quite close despite the final result, imo.

If you're a townie getting lynched Day 1, you have to look at yourself and not just look at the town voting you, whether they are being bad or not.

Otherwise the whole vader issue was just quite unfortunate.

marvellosity

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September 14 2012 02:33 GMT

#846

There's a reason some people almost never get lynched, Risen. And it's not just because they luck out with getting towns not voting for them.

marvellosity

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September 14 2012 02:37 GMT

#848

well whatever Kei. prplhz outed himself as scum towards the end of the 2nd cycle, and if not for the unfortunate vader stuff town could have lynched him day 3 and still had a chance.

marvellosity

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September 14 2012 02:50 GMT

#855

On September 14 2012 11:41 Risen wrote:

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You're right. If I just lurk like everyone else from now on I won't get lynched. But that's not how a townie should play, is it.

I also disagree that the final result was close at all. Let's say BL doesn't derp his way to voting the cop claim (which should have screamed townie, b/c what scum wouldn't pay attention to the game like that). Let's then say prpl gets lynched. Next up on the block, in my opinion, is dirk, since it's just keir and zeph at that point and zeph is getting RB'd the next night. In Zeph's mind Keir has been RB'd, he himself has been RB'd... who hasn't been RB'd..... Dirk! Lynch Dirk. Scum victory again.

Ok so let's say v7 manages to not afk through the entire game and he doesn't get lynched. Who's next on the chopping block there? In my mind, it's a prpl, Dirk, or BL lynch. Both prpl and Dirk have played more scummily, but BL has also been lurky/bad. I don't have faith that people see prpl has only been defending himself and hasn't actually done any logical pushing on anyone, so we have a decision between a lurker and Dirk. Prp gets lynched the next day, and Keir is still coming out on top here, in my opinion, because they don't kill you n2, instead they kill v7 b/c he has claimed doctor with plenty of time to avert catastrophe. Endgame comes down to marv/zeph/keir. Marv now knows keir is scum, but how does he prove this? Keir has been pro-town all game, he claims he was RB'd, zeph knows he was RB'd, in his mind keir is almost confirmed town b/c no scum would "RB" himself, scum victory.

It all comes down to the play of town d1. Not even the lynching the only person who kept discussion going part. The lynch on me was fine if townies hadn't played in such a scummy manner, and that's the problem, in my opinion.

I thought Dirk played just fine. Even if BL got lynched day 2, then Dirk was looking quite decent to me. prplhz would definitely die day 3, and then it's between Kei and Dirk. Obviously Kei has the edge there, but for example after BL flips town day 2, I'm looking at prplhz + someone else, and I don't know who that someone else is. It's either Dirk or Kei, and with townreads on both they both have to be looked at. So it was all still quite possible, and that's without a prplhz lynch day 2 which might have been possible too.

marvellosity

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September 14 2012 02:51 GMT

#856

On September 14 2012 11:48 Risen wrote:

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That's very WIFOM.

it's not just WIFOM. I won my newbie game (as town) by "wifoming" over night kills, and the thing was the argument was totally compelling. Night kill shit isn't just wifom.

marvellosity

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September 14 2012 11:22 GMT

#950

On September 14 2012 16:55 Bluelightz wrote:
I can only be dissapointed with myself and v7.

Hey, I'm glad to hear you say that. It was maddening to see you only active once you were all but dead at LYLO. You need to look at how you're spending time on the game.

prplhz - you're never going to forgive me for picking out Snarfs that game, are you?

Risen - I've said it multiple times to you already and I'll say it again - Dirk was not scummy. The fact you continue to say he was does not make it so.

Edit: Dirk - process of elimination, probably.

marvellosity

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September 14 2012 11:55 GMT

#952

On September 14 2012 20:49 Bluelightz wrote:

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D'awww <3, You better get rid of that Get killed n1/Not get killed n1 though please

, that was fucking with my brain so much

Yeah, the reason I thought you might be scum wasn't your wishy washy reads, it was that you ignored my questions that I was pushing at you about that. That really got to me. Especially as scum you'd left me alive! That contradiction gnawed at me.

Regards to dying - there are stronger town players than me that don't die Night 1 or Night 2. I think I'm just a convenient target because at some point I *can* pull things together, plus I'm extremely hard to (mis)lynch.

If you'd put half the effort into Day 2 as you did Day 3, town would have been much better off, and you probably know that