Pick Your Power: Redux

On May 08 2012 21:55 GMarshal wrote:
Let me make those calls, PM me if you want to appeal them, arguing about it in the thread is only going to garner bad blood.

On May 10 2012 08:03 wherebugsgo wrote:
why would 6 : 9 and 6:20 be placed ahead of 1:1?

If the first number is the same then they're put to the back and the second number is counted. What's the purpose of the second number then?

Like, 6 : 9 should be second, 6:20 should be third, and 7:4 should be fourth. Then comes 1:1, 7:1, and 7:2 last.

On May 15 2012 01:46 sandroba wrote:
I do. Mafia is not likely to get shot, so town cpr is very good (infinite vigi). It's very strong for both teams. Do you agree with my denial plan? I need everyone that sees a problem with it to step up and say it.

On May 15 2012 01:51 sandroba wrote:
@mattchew sorry i missed it. I would say yes, very town favored. 15 blues aren't guaranteed though.

I have a new adition to the denial plan
4.pardoner
He actually sends pardon through pms so we profit from knowing where it is.

On May 15 2012 05:35 Palmar wrote:
Bitch is a compliment in my own twisted way.

On May 15 2012 05:37 Palmar wrote:


Announcement, I intend to win this draft thing and draft a day vigilante and shoot the first person I don't like.

On May 17 2012 11:43 Qatol wrote:

I can see a decent train of thought to allow such an action (assuming that the mafia picked CPR, Day Vigi, and Copy Cat). We have been talking throughout the first day about roleblocking the CPR doctor. This way, that isn't going to happen. Plus it puts a mafia member into a position to heavily mislead the town for the rest of the game.

On May 17 2012 22:01 Palmar wrote:
also nice job mattchew. you're now confirmed town along with me and zephirdd. let's internet high five each other.

On May 18 2012 00:23 Barundar wrote:

If you aren't mafia, it's likely that noone picked copycat, or that it is in town hands. At least wiggles picked up CC in PYP:I. I reserve my final judgement of you for when we know if a CPR doc KP is in the night posts. If you are town, clever seen with the numbers, got no problem sharing my list:

deconduo [1] [1] Mafia CPR doc
risk.nuke [4] [2]
marvellosity [7] [2]
[UoN]Sentinel [9] [1]
Mattchew [11] [x] Day vig
zelblade [12] [x]
Bluelightz [14] [x]
talismania [15] [1]
Misder [2] [1-2]
PaqMan [2] [2]
slOosh [10] [x]
Toadesstern [10] [10]
Barundar [3] [1]
Zephirdd [3] [2]
hiro protagonist [3] [2+]
Palmar [5] [1]
Snarfs [5] [1]
Qatol [5] [1]
sandroba [5/0] [x]
Probulous [5/0] [x] town modkill

On May 18 2012 04:37 marvellosity wrote:


how's about no

On May 18 2012 04:55 Toadesstern wrote:

which still means: I'd rather not lynch into any of those 3. Sentinel looks good without a doubt, so no lynching that.
Risk and Marv are somewhat weird but with Sentinel's action I'm not 100% sure one of them has to be mafia. It could be 1-1 or 2-0 right now, maybe even 0-2 idk.
No lynching them unless we have more information and more analysis about them.

On May 18 2012 05:08 Toadesstern wrote:


I don't think sent is lying because he's busted if he does as mafia. We can confirm that really easy within 1 or 2 days.
So for me it's more about the question wether or not he would have a reason to lie as mafia and I don't see that happening.

For risk and marv it's a bit complicated but there are a bunch of good reasons to lie as a townie in that situation if you ARE the janitor. Janitor is COMPLETLY useless for town so you might as well lie (read: "hey guys I don't have janitor and I am #2 or #3 so I've probably got a REALLY AWESOME BLUE POWER" ) to draw some hits because getting the janitor out of the game is all we wanted to achieve and if one of them is town and already managed to do that they're happy.
If they can "protect" another guy who is very likely to be shot early on due to awesome blue role or awesome mafia sKiLlZ that's awesome for town.

So yes, I see a lot of reasons for them to lie as town. Could be wrong which brings me to the point:
Leave them alive, I want to figure out what's going on in that constellation rather than just randomly lynching into them, having a coinflip on wether or not we hit mafia and on top of that gain 0 (!!!!) information because everyone would be like
"duuuh, that's a mess" if one of them flipped town or "nice hit" if one of them flipped mafia.
Noone is willing to lynch them because of analysis. People want to lynch them because of bullshit they haven't figured out yet.

On May 22 2012 03:22 risk.nuke wrote:
Barundar why didn't you post that conclusion on palmar when you did it. And I'm ordering you to post it now or im writing of everything you said as bullshit.

On May 22 2012 22:37 Palmar wrote:


I'm devoting tons of time to this game, I'm just being wrong a lot.

But killing you seems like a good way forward.

On May 22 2012 22:45 marvellosity wrote:


Based on?

On May 22 2012 22:49 risk.nuke wrote:
Mattchew do you think snarf is scum despite posts such as these which was crucial to condemn Sentinel.
+ Show Spoiler [Mainpost] +
+ Show Spoiler [Example backup post] +

Qatol:
Do you think it is more valuable for the scum to bus their teammate than to use the JOAT's KP role and let the JOAT survive another day?

On May 24 2012 01:06 Snarfs wrote:
I'm switching my vote to hiro.

As others have pointed out, it makes little sense for either of them to claim the way they did. However, it makes less sense for Barundar to claim that role second.

The only goal Barundar could have is to get the doctor lynched so that he has a free shot at Qatol tonight, but then he still dies tomorrow and mafia lose. If Barundar is mafia, at the time of his claim, he had given his team a ZERO percent chance at winning.

At least hiro, with his earlier claim, could have been hoping that Barundar did not pick doctor, in addition to knowing that if he causes a mislynch of a doctor he can shoot Qatol. If Hiro is mafia, at the time of his claim, he had a GREATER THAN ZERO percent chance of winning.

In addition to this, hiro makes the most sense for mafia. I agreed with much of what Qatol said in his case and had come to similar conclusions before the whole roleclaim. Especially notice how he just says that he does not think we should lynch Sentinel without any reasoning. [Link] Now, knowing that he is in the mess of things, I think that he is a more viable target than Barundar.


Think about it from Barundar's and hiro's perspectives. Barundar just threw the game if he's either mafia or SK. This would be the last explanation I would give for anyone's play on TL. hiro at least had a chance that Barundar would not claim doctor.

I suggest everyone switch to hiro as it makes more sense logically for him to be mafia.

##Unvote Barundar
##Vote hiro protagonist

On May 29 2012 02:32 Toadesstern wrote:

maybe. I tend to lie as a townie from time to time but I don't recall anything. Anyways since this is my last day in this game a few hints:

Don't listen to sandroba and don't listen to Zelblade at any point for obvious reasons after I flipped.

Don't listen to snarfs because he's unable to make cases, don't listen to misder, don't listen to palmar if he gets back in the game.

Do whatever Risk, mattchew or maybe marv (if the other two are dead) are saying tomorrow but highly priority on risk and mattchew. Those 2 are the only ones who I think are truely able to find a mafia themselves and the rest has demostrated that they're just not able to this game and I thought so before the game has started a well. That's not meant insulting or me being mad it's just that half the people in here either look for the wrong things that they deem a scumtull when it's really not or are not objective at all.

That being said, lynch into Sandroba / Zelblade tomorrow unless Risk or Mattchew have a fucking good reason to say otherwise and I hope Zelblade flips mafia because if it's Sandroba I'll be fucking mad at you all for lynching me.

gg

On May 31 2012 01:00 marvellosity wrote:


So the fuck what you did? That's no more convincing than anything I have on my side.

On May 31 2012 01:17 marvellosity wrote:


That's why it'd be such a strong scum play.

On June 03 2012 20:09 marvellosity wrote:
Plus Snarfs also thought zelblade had a good chance of flipping scum.

Guys, I don't wanna let this go the way of the no-lynch.

On June 04 2012 04:25 marvellosity wrote:


Good question. Not sure really, but with my masonee and sandroba each having zelblade is scum it seems the right way to go.

Plus this game has become a bit of a graveyard and I'm not sure I can bear waiting another 48/72 hours to be put in the same position

On June 05 2012 19:37 marvellosity wrote:
Mattchew, the mind boggles to me that you're considering me for last scum. I 'considered' you as well but it's too circumstancial compared to zelblade.

Looks like I am going to have to make a proper long consolidated post later to try to end this derp.

On June 06 2012 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
if i'd known this bullshit was going to come up i would have got snarfs to confirm a bunch of things i said. ugh

On June 07 2012 12:57 Qatol wrote:

??? What did I do?

Thanks for modding in such a tough situation, chaoser. PYP games are especially hard to mod and I thought you handled it well, all things considered.

On June 08 2012 04:31 risk.nuke wrote:
Sorry Mattchew but No. We're not even talking about the same things. I know the shot was not ment to go through. But it went through. The person died and flipped. Bringing him back is not an option.

On June 08 2012 05:35 risk.nuke wrote:

What you call huge town benefits was actually just forcing us to to out our vig and jk. And it did not reveal or confirm our alignments. Want to try again?

On June 08 2012 06:29 risk.nuke wrote:

If that's what you think my angle is, well I'm sorry you can't see further then that. I legitimatly believe chaoser favored mafia.