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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 25 2012 03:37 GMT
#1641
sigh guess my gut read was right yesterday. >.> wish you guys voted katina for me this sucks
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 25 2012 04:34 GMT
#1642
Well tomorrow's lylo. Let's please kill DrH.
wat
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 25 2012 04:36 GMT
#1643
Sandroba dying makes you that sure about me? How would I know what sandroba said in PMs anyway?
RIP Aaliyah
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 25 2012 04:37 GMT
#1644
I'm sorry I was too busy these past two days to really go play and push but DrH is definitely Mafia, lynch him and go from there. I'll re-read the thread before the night ends and try to narrow out who the other two are.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 25 2012 04:46 GMT
#1645
I got really caught up in the idea that Townies wouldn't be dumb enough to leave Kurumi alive and got subsequently caught up in the idea that DrH was Town. sandroba was spot on with his read but I didn't really consider it.

Here's the full Skype convo between us, I'm too bleh to edit it out right now so there's random other chatter but the gist of it was he really started wanting to lynch DrH but also believed Abenson/Wiggles were likely Mafia as well.

+ Show Spoiler +
[3/20/2012 12:51:32 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's huge and I couldn't interact with anyone
[3/20/2012 12:51:42 PM] Sandro Maculan: pretty lame
[3/20/2012 12:51:49 PM] Charles Suo: yeah Palmar was raging too
[3/20/2012 12:51:52 PM] Charles Suo: about being a replacement
[3/20/2012 4:21:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: hmm doch pm'ing kurumi right before mafia found him as traitor and not saying anything is alarming
[3/20/2012 5:17:50 PM] Charles Suo: that's true
[3/20/2012 5:18:01 PM] Charles Suo: doch kinda just disappeared last few days after being pretty active at the start
[3/20/2012 5:18:10 PM] Charles Suo: but most of the stuff he was pushing at the start was all relatively town
[3/20/2012 7:29:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: after that surge of activity from abenson I'm feeling good about the chances of him flipping scum
[3/20/2012 7:29:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: you are either a townie that does not give a fuck or you are scum
[3/20/2012 7:30:01 PM] Sandro Maculan: so this means scum most likely
[3/20/2012 7:30:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: ...
[3/20/2012 7:31:15 PM] Sandro Maculan: that comment that wiggles masoned him back means he is either being deceptive or still doesn't understand the mason mechanics
[3/20/2012 7:31:17 PM] Sandro Maculan: what do you think
[3/20/2012 7:41:21 PM] Charles Suo: lol I think he just doesn't know anything
[3/20/2012 7:41:25 PM] Charles Suo: but I think he is scum
[3/20/2012 7:41:29 PM] Charles Suo: the random mentioning of Caller
[3/20/2012 7:41:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: well he is from the old days
[3/20/2012 7:42:01 PM] Sandro Maculan: so caller is one of the few people he recognizes maybe
[3/20/2012 7:42:01 PM] Charles Suo: and Kurumi randomly mentioning him too
[3/20/2012 7:42:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: yeah
[3/20/2012 7:42:13 PM] Sandro Maculan: let's hope
[3/20/2012 7:42:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: he needs to die anyway
[3/20/2012 7:42:25 PM] Charles Suo: yep
[3/20/2012 7:42:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: only tomorrow right?
[3/20/2012 7:43:00 PM] Sandro Maculan: the night flip
[3/20/2012 7:45:17 PM] Charles Suo: yeah
[3/20/2012 7:45:19 PM] Charles Suo: in like
[3/20/2012 7:45:32 PM] Charles Suo: 27 hours
[3/20/2012 7:45:32 PM] Charles Suo: or so
[3/20/2012 7:45:37 PM] Sandro Maculan: 27 hrs
[3/20/2012 7:45:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: sucks
[3/20/2012 7:45:51 PM] Charles Suo: lol
[3/20/2012 7:45:53 PM] Charles Suo: did you and syllo
[3/20/2012 7:45:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: same problem in c9
[3/20/2012 7:45:55 PM] Charles Suo: make a shared account yet
[3/20/2012 7:46:10 PM] Sandro Maculan: i was think about using the samueljackson one
[3/20/2012 7:46:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: I forgot the pass though
[3/20/2012 7:48:32 PM] Charles Suo: uhhh
[3/20/2012 7:48:34 PM] Charles Suo: shit me too LOL
[3/20/2012 7:48:56 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol
[3/20/2012 7:49:03 PM] Sandro Maculan: was it you that made the account?
[3/20/2012 7:49:09 PM] Charles Suo: dont remember lol
[3/20/2012 7:49:10 PM] Charles Suo: password was like
[3/20/2012 7:49:10 PM] Sandro Maculan: maybe you can get it mailed to you
[3/20/2012 7:49:13 PM] Charles Suo: werapescum or something
[3/20/2012 7:49:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: nah
[3/20/2012 7:49:25 PM] Sandro Maculan: oh yeah
[3/20/2012 7:49:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: it was something like this
[3/20/2012 7:49:31 PM] Charles Suo: something like that
[3/20/2012 7:50:04 PM] Sandro Maculan: its SamuelLJackson right?
[3/20/2012 7:50:11 PM] Sandro Maculan: with no spaces or anything
[3/20/2012 7:50:58 PM] Sandro Maculan: fuck
[3/20/2012 7:51:10 PM] Charles Suo: yeah
[3/20/2012 8:03:16 PM] Charles Suo: lol sloosh
[3/20/2012 8:03:21 PM] Charles Suo: has like everyone voting for him
[3/20/2012 8:04:13 PM] Sandro Maculan: yeah
[3/20/2012 8:04:31 PM] Charles Suo: who is your mason buddy
[3/20/2012 8:04:58 PM] Charles Suo: mason seems really really powerful in a game of this size
[3/20/2012 8:05:00 PM] Charles Suo: being able to confirm 2 townies
[3/20/2012 8:05:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: he is dead
[3/20/2012 8:05:23 PM] Sandro Maculan: so I'm quintuple confirmed now
[3/20/2012 8:07:39 PM] Charles Suo: lol
[3/20/2012 8:07:42 PM] Charles Suo: oh
[3/21/2012 1:26:35 AM] Sandro Maculan: shit man c9++ is giving me a headache
[3/22/2012 12:57:26 PM] Sandro Maculan: fuck man
[3/22/2012 12:57:34 PM] Sandro Maculan: i don't really like doch either
[3/22/2012 12:58:01 PM] Sandro Maculan: mafia is hard
[3/22/2012 12:58:15 PM] Sandro Maculan: =(((
[3/22/2012 1:14:46 PM] Charles Suo: yeah
[3/22/2012 1:14:55 PM] Charles Suo: thi sgame got hard
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 25 2012 04:52 GMT
#1646
I'm also going to iterate that if I am alive I am under no circumstance considering any other candidate than DrH. Since it's lylo every Town vote has to be on scum so the remaining Townies are going to have to make the choice of me or DrH to lynch tomorrow.

It's a cheap way to do it but I didn't have the time to really push DrH as hard as I wanted today and I don't want that to become a factor in case I am busy again tomorrow. Rather than trusting you all to come to the conclusion I'm going to force the decision as I believe reading through the game will let you make the proper choice between us two.

If somehow we're both Town I went full derp and fucked this game and I'll apologize heartily for it in the postgame but there is no one else I would really be satisfied with lynching tomorrow.

Remember it's lylo so if you're Town we're going to need you.
wat
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 25 2012 05:33 GMT
#1647
I PM'd Kurumi on Day 1 and also sandroba is making the bad assumption that Kurumi was the traitor which I find highly unlikely
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 25 2012 05:35 GMT
#1648
If that's him really wanting to lynch me, I expected more Curu. I have no knowledge of what Sandroba said to you until now and it was the same bad logic that Deconduo has which is assuming that Kurumi was traitor and that me PMing him somehow proves I'm scum. How do we know Sentinel wasn't the traitor? Or BM? Or JB?

Why would I find the traitor on Day 1 then instruct him to fakeclaim so I can bus him? I didn't even play that lynch for towncred, in fact I criticized the fuck out of JB for trying to take cred off of it. That is such a weak platform for a lynch and at LYLO it doesn't cut it.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 25 2012 05:36 GMT
#1649
Not to mention I was pushing Kurumi at that point harder than anybody else was and wanted Caller lynched Day 1, no one listened to me until he shot Palmar. Another thing I'd never be dumb enough to let a teammate do.
RIP Aaliyah
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 25 2012 05:56 GMT
#1650
Can you explain why out of anyone you would pick godamn KURUMI to Mason?
wat
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 25 2012 06:17 GMT
#1651
I did explain it before. I PM'd him because I thought he was scum baiting for traitor/scum trolling and I wanted to pressure but he didn't respond to the pressure or any of my questions. PM'd VE for the same reasons but through talking to him I became pretty sure he was town. He had good thoughts like in Storm minus the scummy context and he was third party in that, we talked about meta a bit.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 25 2012 06:19 GMT
#1652
I didn't think Kurumi would respond to anything in thread, which is why I went the PM route. I knew Jitsu/Caller/JB would be pretty transparent talking to me in thread so I didn't feel the need to pressure them via PM.

I didn't want to waste my PMs talking to people I think are town. So I could sheep them? Waste.
RIP Aaliyah
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
March 25 2012 06:48 GMT
#1653
katina makes a really good point on casting doubt on, and not messaging layabout is pro town. Why open pms with someone, and not message them? It looks like seeking confirmation, and, to me, as a confirmed town, I like that.
It simplifies things

Katina is town
/speaking out against the thread

I don't see why we need to lynch Dr.H tomorrow, Curu, and you know I'm town
I'm definitely threatening to split votes on this one
I want to filter the remaining players
where are the filters?
my vote was mainly pressure... I'm not really sold on Dr.H.
I'm definitely leading tomorrow, I'm clear because of Matt
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
March 25 2012 08:04 GMT
#1654
You're not confirmed town bucko a DT check doesn't mean shit
RIP Aaliyah
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
March 25 2012 14:53 GMT
#1655
Curu we are not lynching Doc this is so dumb. We should be lynching katina we have been ignoring her all game. Every single person she has pushed as been town.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 25 2012 14:56 GMT
#1656
On March 25 2012 23:53 jaybrundage wrote:
Curu we are not lynching Doc this is so dumb. We should be lynching katina we have been ignoring her all game. Every single person she has pushed as been town.


When I get back I'll check her filter. If what you say is true, then that's who I'm voting.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 25 2012 17:46 GMT
#1657
I feel like Katina is Town now, considering the Abenson/Wiggles flips.

It's a bunch of things. DrH's PM explanation is awful, considering he Masoned VisceraEyes as well who he felt was likely Town. There is absolutely, positively, 100% no reason for any Town player to ever want to Mason Kurumi who is going to be the most useless player in any game not containing sinani.

His sudden and random hostility towards jaybrundage with no reason whatsoever besides that he was calling himself Town. He can come up with no reason to actually call jaybrundage scum when asked about it.

There was also a KP missing the second night, originally I had thought it was because Palmar got hit and prplhz Medic protected him (prplhz was a Busy Medic thus didn't know if he protted his target or not) but I think it's very probable Bill Murray was covered. His sudden influx of activity, the fact that DrH didn't show any of this downright hostility towards him for calling himself confirmed Town, and his retarded reasoning.

He voted DrH following Katina/deconduo/etc, as well as following the popular vote without any reasoning or posts on every other candidate, but all of a sudden come lylo he wants to lead the Town? Not happening.

jay Katina is probably Town, if we lynch her we lose. As I said I am not moving my vote, I am 100% certain DocH is scum, as certain as I was on Kurumi/Caller. Palmar and sandroba both suspected DrH, please trust us on this one.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 25 2012 17:54 GMT
#1658
Like I'm begging you guys. If I am killed during the night lynch DrH, don't get sidetracked.
wat
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
March 25 2012 19:04 GMT
#1659
On March 25 2012 23:53 jaybrundage wrote:
Curu we are not lynching Doc this is so dumb. We should be lynching katina we have been ignoring her all game. Every single person she has pushed as been town.


You are wrong about your last sentence. Not every person I have pushed has been town. That will be clear once DrH flips. That's not really an indicator of whether someone is mafia or not.

I think Jay might be mafia because he has been pushing for me all game and basically ignoring everything else that is going on. I think the mafia is probably telling Jay to keep pushing me so he doesn't mess anything up. He really hasn't done anything else and has ignored all the big cases. Jay also said he would make a case against me.... I have yet to see one.

Jay is mafia or big JubJub,
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 25 2012 19:21 GMT
#1660
You have looked fairly scummy Katina up until the last few flips where I started reconsidering my reads.

DrH being Mafia means jaybrundage is very likely Town.
wat
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