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If you want the posts of the dead, Matt does this:
Bill Murray was checked and cleared
Caller and Kurumi Flipped scum
Palmar, jitsu and gumshoe flipped town
Decon and Curu IMO have improved dramatically
Prp and Jackal are dead
This leaves what should be our next 3 lynches barring unforseen changes
Mr. Wiggles needs to die because he doesn't seem to care about how this game is going, just popping by to drop stupid posts every once in a while.
Abenson needs to die for lurking.
DrH needs to die for not wanting jackal to shoot and being in general pretty complacent with how badly the game is going
do not forget the dead
and then accused Mr. Wiggles
On March 20 2012 21:57 Mattchew wrote:
Mr. Wiggles is who we should be lynching.
Currently it is 10 - 3
If we mislynch it goes to 7 - 3 (unless medic or jailor saves)
if we mislynch again it goes to 4 - 3 (unless medic or jailor saves)
If we get our first lynch correct it goes to 9 - 2 (only 1 kp)
This is a CRUCIAL lynch for us.
[3/16/2012 10:52:17 PM] Matt Kaplan: who you checking
[3/16/2012 11:27:32 PM] Matt Kaplan: WHO'D YOU CHECK AND WHAT WERE THE RESULTS
[3/17/2012 12:05:28 AM] Palmar: bill murray
[3/17/2012 12:05:33 AM] Palmar: same as visceraeyes
##vote Mr. Wiggles
And immediately after that begins riding deconduo. Now,
Deconduo rubs me the wrong way because he's been lightly opposing Caller being scum.
On March 18 2012 03:52 deconduo wrote:
I really really doubt mafia would have an infinite day vig, its just way too overpowered. Its much more likely that Caller is just bad.
3 posts with this tune, the last one he busses Caller because there's no way he can still oppose at that point and get away with it or change the processions. I have a feeling he's traitor with Kurumi as his scapegoat.e And that's why I think when Mattchew was beginning to FoS decon, he got killed.
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EBWOP owait do I have to write it in here too?
##Vote: Deconduo
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On March 24 2012 04:57 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
EBWOP owait do I have to write it in here too?
##Vote: Deconduo
sent tell us what you think about Wiggles
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On March 24 2012 04:27 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2012 00:11 layabout wrote:
This seems to be very reliant on Deconduo.
Why do we think he is town again? Regardless of whether you think I'm town or not, my role has been pretty much confirmed. On top of that, no one has said anything in the spreadsheet is wrong, so you can check it yourself. As for Kurumi, I find it very difficult to believe that he wasn't the traitor. -He thought Jackal was scum, so he made up the dreamer role to defend him from getting lynched. This would absolutely never have happened if he was scum, as he would know Jackal was town. -His made up dream was riddled with grammatical errors. Why not get Caller or any other teammate to spellcheck it first if he was scum. Why would his team even LET him post it. -The rattata post which was blatantly claiming traitor. Also given how Caller tried to recruit sentinel, its fairly obvious that scum were going to pm the traitor to make sure before recruiting them.
It can't be ruled out, but I'm still inclined to believe that he was scum searching for traitor. If I had to guess at a traitor I would guess Bill Murray is the traitor if he isn't blue.
Your second point is moot. Kurumi flipped red, not black, and he made his fake dream the day he was lynched and I seriously doubt scum recruited him that far into the day without using a rolecheck. They have a onetime guess and why would they waste it on a player about to be lynched that they haven't rolechecked? That doesn't add up to me. I still think Kurumi was a bus, which is why I'm not sold on jaybrundage's alignment in the slightest.
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Katina's case on me is unfortunately too much based in meta and my personal life has been too hectic for me to put the thought and care into this game than I normally would. Who posted the case on Wiggles in the first place? I'd like to read it and clicking a filter is easier.
As much as I'm usually inclined to OMGUS, I think Katina is probably town. Misguided, but town. I've been too little of a factor lately for scum to need to distract me like this and there's no reason to post a huge case on me unless they're trying to get me to react or form a serious bandwagon.
The fact that only small targets have been dying (non "vet" players) at night leads me to believe scum is either blue sniping or just hitting people who have the right leads. Considering Mattchew died, that definitely adds some spice to the Mr.Wiggles case. I'll have to read it to determine if it's enough for my vote though as well as go through Wiggles filter.
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myself and curu posted cases on Wiggles. Sandroba also with smaller case.
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Deconduo, what do you actually think of Dr. H's behaviour?
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Oh fuck it. In sandroba we trust.
##Vote DoctorHelvetica
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I haven't lived to the late game in forever, it feels like. What are we supposed to be doing right now? It seems like we've ground to a halt, and that's probably not a good sign.
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I think there's a very solid reason sandroba was shot and I was left alone. sandroba is a better player, definitely, but he was quite disinterested in the game. I had considered DrH almost certain Town while sandroba was getting pretty suspicious of him in thread and in PMs.
That I haven't been shot yet I think shows that I was on the wrong track so I'm going to with sandroba's read.
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On March 25 2012 03:15 Curu wrote:
I think there's a very solid reason sandroba was shot and I was left alone. sandroba is a better player, definitely, but he was quite disinterested in the game. I had considered DrH almost certain Town while sandroba was getting pretty suspicious of him in thread and in PMs.
That I haven't been shot yet I think shows that I was on the wrong track so I'm going to with sandroba's read.
I have no idea what Sandroba said in PMs.
My theory on scum shots is that they're avoiding you, myself, wiggles and so on because they don't want people to ask why one of us is alive and the rest aren't. That's solid imo especially when no lynches are so easy to pursue.
And please man have some confidence and don't just sheep a dead townie to get another mislynch. We really can't afford it.
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On March 25 2012 03:25 Bill Murray wrote:
Dr.H have you claimed?
No, I don't see the point of doing so. It can't confirm me and even if it could TL Towns will still lynch anyone who claims so why would I claim defensively? Just giving scum another angle to attack me from. But you know that, don't you.
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Decon and BM fix your votes, they aren't being counted by Zbot.
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BM btw you aren't confirmed since mafia can cover people
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Wat? in thread sandroba was way more on wiggles than drh, and how could mafia know what sandroba was saying in pms, to judge it on? He was only pming curu and palmar, did you just wildly scum slip? Voting based off "oh I was on wrong track i'm going to vote in a way that keeps me unaccountable" is rly dam suspicious curu.
No one has any rebuttal to the wiggles case. Several people have agreed that wiggles usually isn't this disinterested. Wiggles even says its weird for him to reach late game. Why the hell is no one voting him of everyone is suspicious and there its little backing him?
the only other cases presented are a meta filed case on drh which is just saying "oh you didn't tell usall your opinions and explain with an essay all of your thoughts, so your scum". Not only has no one explicitly explained their every LSAT idea, this would be detrimental as it would clutter thread. The other one is a very loose case on deconduo thatdoesn't explain anything.
Voting wiggles. I've made a case, half of the dead people were suspicious of him, we shouldn't let this slip away.
From phone might be typos. I'll be back before deadline, everyone please consider the cases put forth and make a sensible vote.
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On March 25 2012 07:07 EchelonTee wrote:
Wat? in thread sandroba was way more on wiggles than drh, and how could mafia know what sandroba was saying in pms, to judge it on? He was only pming curu and palmar, did you just wildly scum slip? Voting based off "oh I was on wrong track i'm going to vote in a way that keeps me unaccountable" is rly dam suspicious curu.
No one has any rebuttal to the wiggles case. Several people have agreed that wiggles usually isn't this disinterested. Wiggles even says its weird for him to reach late game. Why the hell is no one voting him of everyone is suspicious and there its little backing him?
the only other cases presented are a meta filed case on drh which is just saying "oh you didn't tell usall your opinions and explain with an essay all of your thoughts, so your scum". Not only has no one explicitly explained their every LSAT idea, this would be detrimental as it would clutter thread. The other one is a very loose case on deconduo thatdoesn't explain anything.
Voting wiggles. I've made a case, half of the dead people were suspicious of him, we shouldn't let this slip away.
From phone might be typos. I'll be back before deadline, everyone please consider the cases put forth and make a sensible vote.
What does that have to do with anything? I actually think I haven't been shot because my reads are off, and I'm being pushed as scum in the thread. Instead, the people calling me scum were shot, and now you're in here trying to use them to push my lynch. Why are you acting so desperate?
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On March 24 2012 05:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Katina's case on me is unfortunately too much based in meta and my personal life has been too hectic for me to put the thought and care into this game than I normally would. Who posted the case on Wiggles in the first place? I'd like to read it and clicking a filter is easier.
As much as I'm usually inclined to OMGUS, I think Katina is probably town. Misguided, but town. I've been too little of a factor lately for scum to need to distract me like this and there's no reason to post a huge case on me unless they're trying to get me to react or form a serious bandwagon.
The fact that only small targets have been dying (non "vet" players) at night leads me to believe scum is either blue sniping or just hitting people who have the right leads. Considering Mattchew died, that definitely adds some spice to the Mr.Wiggles case. I'll have to read it to determine if it's enough for my vote though as well as go through Wiggles filter.
First of all, my case isn't entirely based on meta. You've been inconsistent this whole game. You haven't hard pushed anyone into being lynched (Kurumi doesn't count). You have basically been sitting on the sidelines cheering like a teenage girl at a sale. You've also have been throwing around doubt all game (and you just did on this page on Bill Murray). All these things fall within the goals of the mafia.
Furthermore, you've been saying I should be lynched for the past few days. Now you think I'm town based on this case I'm pushing. It doesn't seem like you're reading anyone's filter, nor does it seem that you even care about who is getting lynched. You flip-flop more than a politician.
As for Wiggles, he is definitely suspicious and should be up for lynch again. But you dear sir, I don't see how we can just let you live any longer when all the flags are blowing up like a skirt in the breeze.
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half the people haven't voted and the lynch is 3 hours away wtf?
I think people aren't playing this game anymore. We need to get a lynch here guys I think we can nail a scum but please lets kill someone a no lynch isn't gonna help us at this point in the game. I am still up for a lynch on katina. I rather not lynch doc.
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