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On December 12 2011 14:39 Comprissent wrote:
I believe Sheth means very influential
One of the reasons Radfield/Arcotod are running is because of the game experience they have; Having a highly active mayor/pardoner with good game experience from what i've read in earlier games can lead to some folk automatically trusting whoever is in office.
Mayor role gives you advantage of showing up town during DT checks (am i right?), and it is a very powerful position, if held by mafia.
What earlier games are you talking about that can lead some folk automatically trusting whoever is in office?
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@nisani201 We need you to post. Your inactivity is making you a good candidate for being lynched. If you're lurking, please post.
@evantrees Why are you using a RNG? Also, what is your thoroughly thought out vote for?
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United States2095 Posts
I'm really not sure of who I want to vote. Although with the way the votes are going now, I think its obviously between Zentor and Nisani. I didn't like how Zeks has acted recently either, but its obviously between those two. Let me go through Zentor's Filter. And if either of you, Zentor or Nisani are on now, start posting why you shoudln't be killed please.
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Given that this is ELECTION MAFIA, the whole step-down thing is definitely a red power. Last night I wouldn't have been comfortable with either deus or prof in an elected role, but now that prof is actually posting I'm going to be voting for him. I'm kind of undecided on the lynch, but it's not going to be on zentor. unvoting and rereading.
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I gotta go now guys D: Hope to see good news soon.
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I am still confident in Spaackle as the lynch by the way, he is here during the election but conveniently not posting or voting. If this was indeed a Mafia machination Mafia would be playing it super careful right now, they are likely waiting to see how the Town sentiment goes before casting their votes.
Sheth I want your thoughts on your election vote.
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@ProfBA I've already voted and explained why. I'm also trying to stay active, but really don't have anything too constructive to add at the moment.
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Ah right, I see you're on Radfield already. Nevermind that point then.
Well if your vote was originally on Arctocod, who would you be shifting to now?
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Not much too nisani's filter, though i did find some interesting things.
In his first significant post, he votes radfield for the election, on the basis that he looks to be playing pro-town. I believe this is at the point where radfield had a total of about 1 post. That is the only reason nisani gives and then immediatly starts trying to discredit arctocod.
On December 13 2011 12:37 Nisani201 wrote:
Zeks is a null-read for me. Yeah the scumslips are pretty stupid but in my experiences I've found that these easy D1 lynches don't go too well.
If there are no other candidates besides him then I will definitely vote him. Otherwise I will wait for more.
Notice how in the above post no effort is made by him to find these better candidates, he just said he would wait around. from a scum perspective this makes sense either because zeks is mafia and he doesnt want to bus early on, or because he can't make a case on a townie and wants to gain town cred by defending him.
people have mentioned as well that he randomly picks TnTP as his lurker target, but then after:
On December 13 2011 14:11 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read Greymist's analysis on Jistu and I think he is much more viable lynch then Zeks.
Eiii, why are you voting MyZentor? You provided no reason other than a quote.
Somewhat off topic: after playing in XLVII, this is much more relaxing... so much better not having 100 players or whatever it was that game.
My analysis on Jitsu, while not all encompasing and perfect, was one of the first attempts at serious analysis in the thread so far at this point. notice how he jumps on it, which ties into my first point about him not wanting to scum hunt and was having trouble building a case.
This is of course not taking into account the lack of thread presense, and the potential tie-ins with the arctocod resignation.
Due to this, I am comfortable with a Nisani lynch, I will be switching my vote to him.
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because there is another hour to decide and felt like having a placeholder for the heck of it. ProfessorBadass is either going to convince me to vote for him or get me to vote for dues in that time from the looks of it ,until then a vote for TotallyNotTwoPeople. can't say a vote for Nisani201 is particularly though out sadly.
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No I'll be damned if you actually lynch nisani. ANYONE who votes for him I will consider to be scum.
same for Zentor.
Why?
Because if they were mafia their buddies would had putten a stop to this ages ago. Now I'll tell you something about bandwagons. Bandwagons are almost always influenced by mafia. due to the uncertainty of townies it's nearly impossible for a bandwagon to kick of without the mafia influencing it. Thats why in 99% bandwagon cases you're either lynching a townie or scum is bussing.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 14 2011 10:35 prplhz wrote:
Something that everybody needs to realize is that the only reason scum would even want to be mayor/pardoner is to deny Radfield and Arctocod the position. While it is very likely that scum are responsible for Arctocod pulling out of the race, it is very unlikely that they did this so that they could get the spot. People like ProfessorBadass are in no way more scummy just because this happened and ProfessorBadass is around.
OK, haven't read the last few pages yet, but I fully agree with this.
ProfessorBadass, even though I have a slight scum read, should be the pardoner. Curu is a strong townie, and my day 1 reads are not the best.
EVERYONE VOTE PROFESSORBADASS FOR PARDONER
Now we stop talking about the election and talk about the lynch again.
We are not lynching Zentor. He softclaimed blue, and did it in a way that newbie townies normally do it. For now, I am inclined to believe him. If mafia want to shoot him because of the blue-slip, great! Either way, we are NOT using our lynch on him.
xsksc and refallen are the two targets I think we should look at. Both of them look very scummy if you read their filters. I'm not sure which one yet, but people should start discussing them.
catching up now...
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On December 14 2011 11:02 evantrees wrote:
because there is another hour to decide and felt like having a placeholder for the heck of it. ProfessorBadass is either going to convince me to vote for him or get me to vote for dues in that time from the looks of it ,until then a vote for TotallyNotTwoPeople. can't say a vote for Nisani201 is particularly though out sadly.
I've said everything I have to say about the subject. Why don't you tell me what you think about what I've already said then?
And why is Deus your other candidate?
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On December 14 2011 10:47 risk.nuke wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 10:41 ProfessorBadass wrote:On December 14 2011 10:35 prplhz wrote:
Something that everybody needs to realize is that the only reason scum would even want to be mayor/pardoner is to deny Radfield and Arctocod the position. While it is very likely that scum are responsible for Arctocod pulling out of the race, it is very unlikely that they did this so that they could get the spot. People like ProfessorBadass are in no way more scummy just because this happened and ProfessorBadass is around. I still think whoever is elected into office still needs to be heavily watched. Pardoner is insanely strong in Mafia hands when it gets near the end of the game, we absolutely cannot allow a Mafia Pardoner to live even close to lylo. Give me the position and watch me heavily, as I've said like a broken record if I am Town then this is hugely beneficial and if I am scum then I am already starting at a disadvantage. The Pardoner powers aren't going to be used until endgame (Townies have no reason to, Mafia can't until it ensures a victory) so you'll have plenty of time to read me before then. risk your candidacy looks hella bad because you didn't even attempt to run in the first iteration of the election. Why weren't you worried then? Were you that sure of Radfield and Arctocod being Town? You said yourself before that you were against Arctocod for office, why didn't you run then to "keep it out of scum's hands?" I didn't want to run then, and I think I've already explained the paniced state of the town 1 hour untill election. Do anyone here belive that my running now is the secret mafia agenda/plan. Does it look well thought out, I'm running to throw a shoe in the machinery for the mafia and prevent their plan. Because they have an agenda, this is very likely a limited use abillity. They wouldn't throw it at us for fun.
AFAIK only you and ProfessorBA have stepped up since the (kidnapping) of Arc
Scum used ability on Arc for:
1. Silence
2. The fact that he now has no protection for night kill since he wont have a body guard
3. Now it frees up an election spot for scum to take. As we can see for the voting picture after Arc got taken out it was practically a reset. I believe that if you are scum they'd clearly won't throw you out for their candidate as you have developed no credibility at all - which is the exact reason why I am really uneasy about ProfessorBA's uprising all of a sudden.
Of course there is the possibility that scum team is terribly weak this game and can't afford to have both Rad/Arc in office so they just got desperate and outed one
Now I have no idea how much credibility you have curu as I've never played with you. However you have satisfactorily answered my questions for now so I will give you the benefit of the doubt for now. I will hold my vote on Radfield.
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On December 14 2011 11:00 Spaackle wrote:
@ProfBA I've already voted and explained why. I'm also trying to stay active, but really don't have anything too constructive to add at the moment.
You move your vote to ProfessorBadass, he's the best pardoner right now and a vote for Radfield by an active person is a vote thrown away. We don't want some random to suddenly race up and get elected because a lot of newbies thought it would be funny.
Also switch your vote off MrZentor, I already explained why he's very likely not scum. You don't get to vote for people just because they're useless, this isn't a scum tell and there are people who are way more useless anyway.
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On December 14 2011 11:01 ProfessorBadass wrote:
Ah right, I see you're on Radfield already. Nevermind that point then.
Well if your vote was originally on Arctocod, who would you be shifting to now?
I'd probably cast my vote to you, ProfBA. Might still, if the election looks close, but for now, it stays with Radfield.
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^ did not read Radfields most recent post before posting mine
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Also, I have apparently been roleblocked, but we can discuss the mechanics of that later.
Another also, there is no way Arctocod voluntarily withdrew from the race. That was scum driven without a doubt.
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On December 14 2011 11:03 zeks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 10:47 risk.nuke wrote:On December 14 2011 10:41 ProfessorBadass wrote:On December 14 2011 10:35 prplhz wrote:
Something that everybody needs to realize is that the only reason scum would even want to be mayor/pardoner is to deny Radfield and Arctocod the position. While it is very likely that scum are responsible for Arctocod pulling out of the race, it is very unlikely that they did this so that they could get the spot. People like ProfessorBadass are in no way more scummy just because this happened and ProfessorBadass is around. I still think whoever is elected into office still needs to be heavily watched. Pardoner is insanely strong in Mafia hands when it gets near the end of the game, we absolutely cannot allow a Mafia Pardoner to live even close to lylo. Give me the position and watch me heavily, as I've said like a broken record if I am Town then this is hugely beneficial and if I am scum then I am already starting at a disadvantage. The Pardoner powers aren't going to be used until endgame (Townies have no reason to, Mafia can't until it ensures a victory) so you'll have plenty of time to read me before then. risk your candidacy looks hella bad because you didn't even attempt to run in the first iteration of the election. Why weren't you worried then? Were you that sure of Radfield and Arctocod being Town? You said yourself before that you were against Arctocod for office, why didn't you run then to "keep it out of scum's hands?" I didn't want to run then, and I think I've already explained the paniced state of the town 1 hour untill election. Do anyone here belive that my running now is the secret mafia agenda/plan. Does it look well thought out, I'm running to throw a shoe in the machinery for the mafia and prevent their plan. Because they have an agenda, this is very likely a limited use abillity. They wouldn't throw it at us for fun. AFAIK only you and ProfessorBA have stepped up since the (kidnapping) of Arc Scum used ability on Arc for: 1. Silence 2. The fact that he now has no protection for night kill since he wont have a body guard 3. Now it frees up an election spot for scum to take. As we can see for the voting picture after Arc got taken out it was practically a reset. I believe that if you are scum they'd clearly won't throw you out for their candidate as you have developed no credibility at all - which is the exact reason why I am really uneasy about ProfessorBA's uprising all of a sudden. Of course there is the possibility that scum team is terribly weak this game and can't afford to have both Rad/Arc in office so they just got desperate and outed one Now I have no idea how much credibility you have curu as I've never played with you. However you have satisfactorily answered my questions for now so I will give you the benefit of the doubt for now. I will hold my vote on Radfield.
We don't know for sure if the ability includes a silence, don't assume things.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
If you are making a post without discussing a lynch candidate. Stop. We need to discuss our lynch.
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