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heist
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Curu
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Foolishness
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On July 28 2011 09:52 sandroba wrote: I gave you the stick curu. I don't think syllo is scummy at all, but maybe it's because he agree's with me in everything. @Foolishness Your defense is laughable. There is no going back on the previous posts you made. No matter what you say you did NOT push any of your thoughts and you did NOT defend BC to a point of making a difference and avoiding his lynch. On every major issue you were always on the sidelines or soft pushing suspicion on people when jackal was leading the wagon. Not true. I brought up the kitaman information before anyone had voted for Jackal. When I brought up my suspicions on redFF, Lanaia, and Wiggles it was when BC was leading the vote count. I came into the thread to defend BC, but nobody cared what I had to say, and BC had already dug himself a huge hole by then. I'm putting suspicion on people because they are suspicious. Let me reiterate what you have done: 1) Accused and voted for Kitaman after I said he was suspicious for asking questions, posting one liners, and general inactivity. 2) Accused and voted for BC after Curu, Wiggles, syllogism, and Chaos13 already dragged out their accusations. You then proceeded to argue with him constantly over the next few pages. In fact here's you're first post about the issue (correct me if I'm wrong and you had one earlier) On July 26 2011 05:09 sandroba wrote: Okay, disregard anything BC is saying and check kita. I won't argue with him because he's choosing to not listen to reason =). It's damn near impossible for dropbear AND SS to be mafia, so whatever is your theory it is wrong. That's just a sad excuse for a post. You seem to think that because I don't spam the thread with "THIS GUYS MAFIA LOL KILL HIM" (which is what you do) that I'm trying to subtly push people or soft defend others. As I stated before, I gave coherent reasons why I thought people were suspicious (except for Wiggles because I was trying to illicit a response out of him). I said "kitaman is suspicious because he's relatively inactive, posting one liners and asking a lot of questions". I said that redFF is suspicious because he's trolling and he was acting like he was in BC's game where he was mafia. I said that Lanaia is suspicious because of the inactivity (which were at really convenient times as well). That's a heck of a lot better than the majority of other accusations this game: "BC is arguing nonsense therefore he is mafia", "Jackal is mafia because voldemort was town", "foolishness is right let's lynch Kita". | ||
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On July 28 2011 10:11 sandroba wrote: @Foolishness I know you said you were roleblocked, but if you have any sort of night action, who did you target at night? I don't think this information will bring anything  great to the town | ||
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Amber[LighT]
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Amber[LighT]
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On July 28 2011 10:28 Foolishness wrote : I don't think this information will bring anything great to the townNo it will be very helpful | ||
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kitaman27
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On July 28 2011 08:05 Curu wrote: Can we verify this? We know he didn't have the Cloak for sure, since he died to a hit. sandroba and heist, can you pass me your two items? I'll give them right back, just want to make sure you both still have them. Sorry guys for being away. Been busy with birthday stuff. By the way Curu, what Harry Potter role do you have? Sandroba please tell me you weren't naive enough to just give him the third hallow.... | ||
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sandroba
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On July 25 2011 15:14 Foolishness wrote: I don't see anyone making any arguments against Jackal based on his behavior thus far. I read through his posts and frankly there's nothing indicating that he needs to hang from the noose. I am not convinced that a mafia would roleclaim straight up on day 1, that's just an lol newbie move. Of course his responses tomorrow will greatly help us, but lynching him off of flavor text is like lynching off of day 1 clues. It never works, and inactives sit and mafia twiddle their thumbs. I decided to Start counting the number of posts where kitaman asks a question. I gave up because I was starting to run out of fingers. It would be nice to see him make a post longer than 2 lines.That's a lie. Here is your first relevant post in the game, when jackal58 already had 2 votes and people were discussing whether or not he was mafia. And that was your only post about how kita is suspicious: "he's asking a lot of questions". You didn't want him checked either: On July 26 2011 06:16 Foolishness wrote: No. I want to use our Killer powers to lynch Kita, I want someone to vigi Kurumi, and I want the check on Lanaia or Wiggles. Probably Wiggles.And how did nobody cared what you had to say? In the post above is an example of me especifically aking for your opinion because when everyone was discussing what to do with the check you were posting things like: On July 26 2011 05:35 Foolishness wrote: Thanks for making me immune to death the rest of the game bro...I Really appreciate itYou simply did not care to defend anything you thought was right at all. "People didn't care for what I had to say". No, you just didn't try to convince anyone, because you don't care about town. And responding to your post: How is anything I've done in anyway relevant to you being anti-town or not? And yes, I did find kita suspicious. Yes, I argued with BC for pages. But I never called him scum for it, that's a lie. I voted for him when the check came back read, but I changed my mind, because in the end I didn't think he was scum. | ||
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On July 28 2011 10:24 Curu wrote: That or the sacrifice part suggests that he could be recruited in the night then sacrificed during day, wasn't there a role like that in PTP1? Did anyone create one like that this time? If you already had your fun with the stick, pls ship it back, just to make sure. | ||
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kitaman27
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On July 28 2011 11:20 Curu wrote: I haven't gotten a PM yet, so I assume deconduo is MIA. deconduo sent me a pm 5 minutes ago :/ | ||
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Also please answer sandroba's question Foolishness. I'm still feeling the Nisani lynch but like I said every single game I'm in I find him scummy regardless of his alignment. Maybe a better Vig shot. | ||
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chaos13
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So last nights kills we have: Mig Wiggles red Why would mafia want to kill these guys specifically? Were any of these players really pushing someone? Also, you guys are herp derping left and right. I haven't seen any proper analysis of lynch candidates so far. What I want you to do is if you have a suspect, filter their posts and actually write something up on them. Explain why you think they are mafia, and reference it with quotes. Actually provide some evidence. Then others can comment on it and suddenly we have an organized town that is working together to catch scum. In this environment mafia will stick out like a sore thumb,. While I'm talking about it, I would like to add my analysis on a player. Syllogism On July 25 2011 17:23 syllogism wrote: It makes no sense for mafia to fake role PM like that as it could only lead to town lynching ON and confirming his alignment. I'm more inclined to believe the whole alignment thing in the PM is a red herring or that he is third party. This post was made in regards to Jackal58. In it he states that it just wouldn't make sense for scum to say that, because it would lead to them being lynched. He defends Jackal rather strongly. On July 25 2011 18:29 syllogism wrote: Pretty sure you people pushing jackal aren't this gullible/blind, but rather not town aligned Care to explain why mafia jackal would reveal his role immediately, knowing ON's real aligned and what will likely happen when ON flips town In this one he makes a chainsaw defense of Jackal. Apparently anyone who thought Jackal was mafia is scum. Defending Mafia = check On July 26 2011 04:45 syllogism wrote: So you are admitting the role is likely confirmed. What exactly will mafia/third party supersoft do with his alignment checking role that town is forcing him to use? At worst we will be mislead, but we are always free to ignore his checks. At best he gives us red today. There's no risk at all unless it's a gambit and they are ALL red. This post seems solid at first glance, but it reveals a scum agenda. Encouraging alignment checks is a great way to come across as pro-town. However, he suggests ignoring checks and brings up a reason not to trust them in the same post. Perhaps a mafia even created a role for BC and they knew he was a miller. On July 26 2011 22:19 syllogism wrote: I'm up for lynching Lanaia, Redff or possibly Palmar. I concur with Foolishness' thoughts on BC; I find it quite unlikely he would act like this if he was mafia aligned as he must realize most of the town will immediately jump on him. Refusing to get checked is suspicious, but for now I'm not willing to lynch him based on just that. Palmar has been keeping quite a low profile so far, jumped on the easy and quite weak wagon and done little to no scum hunting so far, which is quite uncharacteristic of him. In this one he takes three seemingly random names that he has not mentioned previously once, and suggest lynching them. He only provides reasoning for one of them. This is all during a huge drawn-out argument with BC that did nothing but clutter up the thread. While BC did flip town, this argument was still anti-town. Much more productive things could have been happening in that time. On July 27 2011 05:58 syllogism wrote: I switched to Jackal because I STILL can't believe this is your scum play. So...a red check from a DT, and he still moves his vote? This seems like classic mafia not wanting to be caught voting for town. He even moves it to a mafia, who ended up not lynched. At this point since the check is red he knows that BC is going to be lynched. He also knows that it's because he is a miller, as BC is not on his mafia team. When BC flips green he can say "told you so" and when Jackal flips red he can say "see, I'm town. I voted for scum". On July 28 2011 06:32 syllogism wrote: Chaos13 and Foolishness definitely look like the best lynches as of now. Then he goes on to pick two MORE random names and suggest they be lynched, again without providing any reasoning.. Note to all town players: explain your votes. It makes things go much better. Worth noting as well though, is that he doesn't vote for any of the players he says he would like to lynch. He is waiting for a reaction from the town to see if he will have support. He doesn't want to be caught pushing a townie lynch. All he wants to do is plant the seed of suspicion and then watch it grow. And then we have what just ended up happening. supersoft was ready to check syllogism, and then he is hit by a day vig. A town player would have claimed a day hit like this immediately, especially to explain why they hit such an obvious townie. This means it was scum. Why would scum risk a day hit like this with no warning? They didn't want syllo to be checked. syllogism is scum That's as coherent as I can make this post right now, I hope it makes sense. I'm exhausted. | ||
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chaos13
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And nobody should be handing out hallows. Potter and voldy are dead. Anyone who wants them probably has an HP role and can use them, but that's not good since we aren't aware of any roles like that. in other words, you're giving power to someone completely unconfirmed. Don't do it. | ||
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