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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 07 2011 05:26 GMT
#1301
I also like how this last page is going compared to the other 64. Let's try to keep good discussion going.
you gotta dance
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
July 07 2011 05:27 GMT
#1302
I'm gonna switch to Palmar since sandroba isn't getting lynched.

It's gonna be hard to have an opinion until the dust clears tomorrow. Right now this town couldn't find it's own ass with a compass.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
July 07 2011 05:40 GMT
#1303
Palmar is kind of an ass I will enjoy watching him hang.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
July 07 2011 05:41 GMT
#1304
On July 07 2011 13:07 OriginalName wrote:
I stand corrected.


I <3 caller cuz he generally isn't too banlist friendly...

xD

Also...I've finally got caught up, and now work at 7 a.m.....its fucking almost 2....

-_-...

Decoundo screams scum. Navilus too.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
July 07 2011 05:48 GMT
#1305
On July 06 2011 21:15 prplhz wrote:
What the hell is awesome about ruining everything for everybody? Either you're a douchebag or you're a terrorist with no place in this game or in any game. In the latter case, get the fuck out. If you don't want/have time to read the game then you shouldn't be in it anyway. I hope you get modkilled so we save a lynch.

If there is any undiclosed reason for your lunacy that you can't reveal, then it better be really good.

....chill....suspect.
On July 07 2011 01:12 Navillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 01:08 Drazerk wrote:
Caller is a baller and I am not worthy of worshipping him

All right with that out of the way, I completely agree with palmar we shouldn't be nuking as we have to remember conspirators / Scum will fire nukes off if they are about to be lynched in retaliation. as and so the world radiation will rise every time we lynch one which could lead to a terrible situation.

After Mataza I have made it clear who I think should be lynched ( Syllo / Ciryandor Read my previous reasons as for why )


Ok I was willing to go for nuking mataza but that wasn't actually a must, I just want to keep to policy so ignore my vote for the nuke.

##Vote: Mataza

Suspect as hell...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 07 2011 05:49 GMT
#1306
On July 07 2011 14:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 13:07 OriginalName wrote:
I stand corrected.


I <3 caller cuz he generally isn't too banlist friendly...

xD

Also...I've finally got caught up, and now work at 7 a.m.....its fucking almost 2....

-_-...

Decoundo screams scum. Navilus too.


We seem to agree on those two. TAA, sandroba, Palmar, Navillus, deconduo and heist are all people I would like to see hang.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
July 07 2011 05:51 GMT
#1307
On July 07 2011 14:49 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 14:41 ~OpZ~ wrote:
On July 07 2011 13:07 OriginalName wrote:
I stand corrected.


I <3 caller cuz he generally isn't too banlist friendly...

xD

Also...I've finally got caught up, and now work at 7 a.m.....its fucking almost 2....

-_-...

Decoundo screams scum. Navilus too.


We seem to agree on those two. TAA, sandroba, Palmar, Navillus, deconduo and heist are all people I would like to see hang.

Eh....It just took me forever to read through the thread...My bad but 66 pages in....fucking no time.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
July 07 2011 05:52 GMT
#1308
Mataza Is a real fucking piece of work also.

Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 07 2011 05:53 GMT
#1309
On July 07 2011 13:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On July 07 2011 13:35 Zona wrote:
Alright, I read through once and will start reading again (or maybe reviving a tool that will make it easier for me to reread)

but for now two minor thoughts:

I think it's a good idea if we demand all anti-nukes that are used, to be claimed by the user, in order to link the person who was saved and the anti-nuker for later analysis.. Suppose a scum anti-nukes for another scum. If the anti-nuker is forced to claim, then the two players are linked for when later either one flips. If a town anti-nukes for someone they feel is town and is correct, that's a good situation later on for flips. (Of course if a town player anti-nukes for someone who is mafia, that's kind of bad - but this linkage information shouldn't be used in isolation, but along with other evidence that appears. There's also a potential gambit by a scum anti-nuker who saves a town and hopes the town flips later to burnish the scum's townie credentials, but in this case that scum loses an anti-nuke AND keeps a town member alive for the time being, so I think that's a worthy tradeoff).

Some of you are saying that we should leave the conspirator alone for now - but the role might have additional abilities that could be detrimental to everyone.


What's forcing them to claim though? Anti-nukes should be claimed, for the sake of better information, but if a scum anti-nukes another scum, I don't really think he'll claim, no matter how nicely we ask him.

Also, I'm lynching Palmar today. He's not town, we have no clue what additional abilities he has, or if the radiation cap or something else will be revealed with his role, and we have no reason to trust anything he says, besides his word, which is worth shit because he's not town. Besides that, he's shitting up the thread more than it already is.

People are talking about policy lynching people, even if you think they're town. Instead, how about policy lynching people who are known anti-town, so that we can stop mafia from hiding behind fake conspirator, or third party roles? Sounds better to me, than keeping scum around because they've claimed conspirator, or benevolent third party who wins if the nuke cap isn't met.

Also, I'm pretty sure his lynch is generating discussion, simply due to the fact that people are still discussing it, and not everyone is voting for him. What are you so worried about, heist?

Well the pressure would be that whoever was saved, without anyone claiming anti-nuke, would be somewhat suspicious. It's not foolproof due to the gambit I mentioned, but I think it's worth it for the town to agree with. And of course if someone as a special ability that saves themselves when nuked, that will need to be claimed if that person does get nuked.

I also agree with what you said about Palmar, it squares with what I'm thinking, especially with the other abilities part.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 07 2011 05:56 GMT
#1310
i STILL don't understand why gman saved mataza and is going to let himself die

does not compute
lalala
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 07 2011 06:01 GMT
#1311
I don't want to see Palmar hanged because I believe he will most likely turn up as Conspirator. I'm guessing the majority if not everyone getting nuked will be town. I don't think we can afford to do a safety lynch on Palmar on the off chance he is scum. We need to get back our momentum somehow and Palmar getting lynched and turning up as Conspirator will give us nothing. Lynch results are our most accurate way to determine alignment. I say ignore him however annoying he is and reinforce our policy or the next day will be a nukefest. OR since people seem to be so accuse-happy how bout you vote for that person than someone most people believe is NOT scum?

I can't believe I'm the one trying to hold up our agreed upon plan. What exactly is stopping mafia from nuking someone tomorrow if there are no repercussions except counternukes. We can all see how great of a deterrent those are... All it takes is one townie thinking they have a surefire read on someone and then boom mafia are free to nuke as needed.

Also, I don't seem to recall any analysis of Deconduo being done (though I did read a lot of posts in a short amount of time) but a lot of people seem to think he's suspicious never really backing it up. Can I please hear some input on this?




Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 07 2011 06:13 GMT
#1312
On July 07 2011 08:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 08:17 GMarshal wrote:
On July 07 2011 08:15 Drazerk wrote:
On July 07 2011 08:14 GMarshal wrote:
Also, lets say you theoretically had a way to get someone's alignment published in the next day post, who would you choose?

This is *purely* a theoretical exercise.


Myself confirmed townies are always good if there is medic support around

Now lets say this theoretical power had the *tiny* setback of destroying one of that person's nukes, and raising radiation levels by 1. Would you still use it that way? Lets also say you can't aim it at yourself.


Does this ability perchance explode one of those person's nukes, raising the radiation level by one, and killing the person, thus revealing their alignment?

Also, I switched to it as soon as the nukes started going off like this, but please:

VOTE FOR OPERATION WATCHTOWER. FOR PEACE. FOR JUSTICE.

You are a liar.
Justice is nothing like Peace.
Justice is firing on the guilty.
Peace is forgiving the guilty.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 07 2011 06:15 GMT
#1313
peace is no guilty
dr Helvetica <3
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
July 07 2011 06:19 GMT
#1314
okay can we kill mataza already
:3
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 07 2011 06:27 GMT
#1315
On July 07 2011 10:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 09:59 chaos13 wrote:
kita, members of the troll faction don't have to troll the thread or be stupid in any way. If they have some sort of restriction like that it's because of their role, not their faction.


Can we get a confirmation from Sandroba or Mataza that their roles don't require any trolling of the thread?

Ah yes, I am just a french twat, no requirement from my role to do such things.
I was just pissed off at this waolrd at conference bullshit and chose suicide. Then I was rescued....
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 07 2011 06:29 GMT
#1316
K, mataza since you claimed france, can you claim your leader so I can maybe take my vote off of you?
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 07 2011 06:37 GMT
#1317
Also coag claim your leader too. You mispelled boreritish btw, and it does not makes too much sense for boreritish leaders to be imune to nukes, given that we have a campaign choice that gives them extra lives.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
July 07 2011 06:40 GMT
#1318
I didnt claim leader. Dont make shit up
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 07 2011 06:41 GMT
#1319
On July 07 2011 15:29 sandroba wrote:
K, mataza since you claimed france, can you claim your leader so I can maybe take my vote off of you?

wut
lalala
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 07 2011 06:42 GMT
#1320
On July 07 2011 15:01 heist wrote:
I don't want to see Palmar hanged because I believe he will most likely turn up as Conspirator. I'm guessing the majority if not everyone getting nuked will be town. I don't think we can afford to do a safety lynch on Palmar on the off chance he is scum. We need to get back our momentum somehow and Palmar getting lynched and turning up as Conspirator will give us nothing. Lynch results are our most accurate way to determine alignment. I say ignore him however annoying he is and reinforce our policy or the next day will be a nukefest. OR since people seem to be so accuse-happy how bout you vote for that person than someone most people believe is NOT scum?

I can't believe I'm the one trying to hold up our agreed upon plan. What exactly is stopping mafia from nuking someone tomorrow if there are no repercussions except counternukes. We can all see how great of a deterrent those are... All it takes is one townie thinking they have a surefire read on someone and then boom mafia are free to nuke as needed.

Also, I don't seem to recall any analysis of Deconduo being done (though I did read a lot of posts in a short amount of time) but a lot of people seem to think he's suspicious never really backing it up. Can I please hear some input on this?


You could try Operation Watchtower, which will stop any nukes from flying tomorrow.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
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