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If you want the town to go the right direction, step up your game. Even I lost motivation when I was being hammered, but I'm not going down without a fight especially since I'm a townie. The town convinced me to keep playing and not give up, and indeed it is way too early to give up. I don't see why all the vet players are getting modkilled/losing motivation. | ||
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On May 18 2011 12:27 Varpulis wrote: orgolove, we're not sheeping. We're just not making the right decisions. ilovejonn probably needs to get lynched. We've been ignoring orgolove for too long. From what I understand from this post is that if a person tunnels another person hard enough with no case to support it at all, we should in the end lynch said person for information and to please the tunneler? | ||
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On May 20 2011 06:13 Forumite wrote: Either, or? We can´t lynch two, so we want to lynch the one that give the most information. orgolove is suspicious because of his actions, votes and analysis, while jaminz because of his lurking and voteswitching, but if these are the candidates, who is the best candidate for a lynch? If we lynch jaminz then we don´t get any information on scum. If we lynch jaminz then we can´t KNOW if orgolove is scum, since the voteswitching could just have been a way to throw us off. If we lynch orgolove then jaminz looks suspicious still. If we lynch orgolove then jaminz or imp are probably scum, and ilj is cleared. Because the main incriminating action of Jaminz does not connect him to others, he´s actually a worse lynch than orgolove, whose activity and actions give us much more to work with once he flips, no matter which way he flips. I´m not clearing jaminz, not at all, but right now I´m more interested in what orgolove is up to. Also I´m a helper; Do I make sense? This. I like how he is still 100% certain I am scum, based on voting analysis alone. Have you guys seen him actually make a case on me NOT based on his data, but from my posts? No? Then I don't see why a townie would still keep tunneling a person when almost no one is listening to him already. Clearly his way to "convince" town isn't working, yet he is still trying so hard to get me lynched with minimal post effort now as well. "hey guys i dont care about this game anymore, so just lynch me and ilovejonn, because i just want to see if my data was correct!" ##Vote: orgolove | ||
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On May 16 2011 11:59 Forumite wrote: lol For what it´s worth, I say Orgolove is Scum On May 16 2011 18:26 Forumite wrote: If those are the prime suspects then my vote goes on orgolove. Besides being the scummiest target, it should clear or doom ilj, because of how long orgolove has been tunneling on him. ##Vote: orgolove On May 18 2011 11:40 Forumite wrote: We need 3 to switch, including Mlg, in order to lynch Impervious. I could help, although I´d prefer a lynch of orgolove. On May 18 2011 11:56 Forumite wrote: Redtooth die anyway. If you don´t want to lynch Imp after this stunt, then consider orgolove. On May 19 2011 15:55 Forumite wrote: I know who the chatic voteswitching of Jaminz saved. ##Vote: orgolove On May 20 2011 06:13 Forumite wrote: Either, or? We can´t lynch two, so we want to lynch the one that give the most information. orgolove is suspicious because of his actions, votes and analysis, while jaminz because of his lurking and voteswitching, but if these are the candidates, who is the best candidate for a lynch? If we lynch jaminz then we don´t get any information on scum. If we lynch jaminz then we can´t KNOW if orgolove is scum, since the voteswitching could just have been a way to throw us off. If we lynch orgolove then jaminz looks suspicious still. If we lynch orgolove then jaminz or imp are probably scum, and ilj is cleared. Because the main incriminating action of Jaminz does not connect him to others, he´s actually a worse lynch than orgolove, whose activity and actions give us much more to work with once he flips, no matter which way he flips. I´m not clearing jaminz, not at all, but right now I´m more interested in what orgolove is up to. Also I´m a helper; Do I make sense? On May 19 2011 23:11 Forumite wrote: I´ve had my eye on orgolove far longer than jaminz. | ||
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On May 23 2011 06:06 Mig wrote: Yea AO/db/ilj/elmizzit all voted without taking any relevant stances :/. I would like to hear kita's thoughts on everyone. Like I said before I am not 100% that kita is scum but with this few people in the game we should be discussing all possibilities and not take anything for granted. And I would like to hear everyone's opinion on it. Would anyone have a problem if we moved the lynch up to tonight, instead of tomorrow? It seems a lot of people are just going to wait until after orgolove is killed before actually saying anything. If that is the case we might as well get it over with instead of just sitting here for a day. Especially since everyone has already voted. What stance do you actually want me to take? I've been voting orgolove the past few days and with Forumite's death why would anyone vote for anyone else? This guy isn't even defending himself. Either he's scum who gave up or he's the worst townie I've ever seen. Is his only defense going to be "I'm telling you this dude is scum" and "I told you so"? | ||
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Sure, mafia would want to defend themselves if they are going to go down, but why wouldn't a townie do the same thing? Why isn't orgolove defending himself, he says we deserve to lose, but I say if a townie lets themselves get lynched it is even worse. We have 7 town players remaining. orgolove is going down for sure and with the play he has displayed we honestly have to hope he is scum. If he flips town, we are down to 6 townies. 1 night kill, thats 5 townies. Then if you guys lynch me the next day it is down to 4 townies + the next night kill it would be 3 townies. Based on the night kill information we have to seriously consider who we lynch next. On May 24 2011 05:53 Xedat wrote: P.S. I jsut looked at AO's voting. If orgolove is scum there is one interesting thing: On the day 5 he is the third to vote orgolove after 2 people voted for ilovejonn and 2 who voted for orgolove. If orgolove and AO are both town this would be termendously stupid. I don't know what to think of that. The days after Dropbear and AirbladeOrange just vote for each other, I somehow missed that. What do think about this vote? Is this relevant? Are you saying with the voting there, either orgolove/AO is scum? I think we really have to consider analyzing people's posts more, instead of voting patterns. Voting patterns are a way to help your case but by it self it is not something substantial to push with. We can't just say, oh the people who were on the XXX lynch has to contain 1 scum. We definitely need to read over everyone's posts again and try to see why they said what they said with a mafia mindset. If I have to put anything out there I'm willing to say Dropbear is town though. He has been consistently doing post analysis through out the whole game, despite being wrong on some occasions, but even the best of players can get analysis wrong. He just has the most town vibe to me right now. | ||
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On May 26 2011 17:15 Xedat wrote: @ilovejonn: Who are your suspects? Why didn't you do anything except for defending against orgolove? I didn't do anything but defend against him because I don't want the town to lynch a townie. I also did not like his attitude of "im telling you" and just using voting analysis. It seemed extremely anti-town as he didn't even present a proper post analysis on me but kept voting for me. Suspects I'm not sure. I've got town reads from you Xedat, and Dropbear though. Other people I'm not sure about, kitaman27 is a veteran player, but due to my time constraints I have not read his other games as town. He's been on most of the correct lynches however. The other players left I have not mentioned are the most suspicious to me. They could be lurking mafia/Godfather or they could just be bored townie. But even with my time constraints I've more posts than them like Dropbear said. Perhaps they have issues in real life like me though. elmizzt has voted me based on the semi-vouch from Forumite that AO is town. On May 26 2011 08:10 elmizzt wrote: I spent about 2 hours last night poring over both their respective post histories, and I have no idea which I would prefer to lynch. Theyre both pretty equally scummy imo, and it doesn't help that their vote patterns are nearly identical. =/ I am probably just terrible at analysis  I suppose based on forumite's semi-vouch for AO, I'd say ilj would be a better target for tonight. But what about for me? Did he really go through Forumite's posts? On May 17 2011 09:27 Forumite wrote: One of sinani206's few big posts, probably a coached post. I´m not sure how to read this one, because of WIFOM. It was posted fairly early, when there was still time to divert the lynch on someone else, to me it´s more likely that scum would discredit a townie than cast suspicions on their own at that stage. I´m fairly certain this makes Ilovejonn Town, but I can´t be sure. + Show Spoiler + On May 14 2011 13:42 sinani206 wrote: ilovejonn This is ilovejonn's list of votes: 1) kurumi 2) cthsaza 3) eternalmisfit 4) oroglove Hmm.... So far, 3 greens and a blue. Kurumi bandwagon day 1 and EternalMisfit bandwagon day 3, with no real explanations for either. He is also experienced, so he can't be forgiven for not explaining. Today, first he votes on my bandwagon, then after I defend myself and DropBear accepts the defense, he switches to himself, saying this: Why do you first roleclaim townie and then tell the town to lynch you for information? You want us to call a bluff, to believe that you are a Townie that will sacrifice himself for the town, and then leave you alive. But you aren't. You wanted us to leave you alone so that you could stay alive and the Mafia would keep their 2KP. Then, after Varpulis' post: You post this and switch back to oroglove: Because you realize that Varpulis is right, you switch to orgolove, to act more like a townie and act like you are trying to kill the scum. But you just use the same arguments against him that everyone else has. Another bandwagon. You realize that this is 3 band wagons you have joined, all without adding to the accusation? I know where my vote is going today. ##Vote: ilovejonn I noted something interesting at the end of that post (bold for emphasis). sinani206 says he was voting on orgolove to seem more town, but orgolove rarely come up in the top of most-scummy lists. I wonder if sinani206 accidentally outed a fellow scum. What does he think about that? If he voted AO on a semi-vouch I wonder what this is to him. Also, if people think I'm scum. Would sinani (a confirmed scum) ask for a coached post analysis on a team mate? He was going to get lynched, if I was mafia and people switched to me based on the analysis, sinani still would have lost a team member. But if the analysis made people switch and it was on a townie, sinani would've stayed alive for another night AND not lose any mafia members. He was already a prime suspect, the best play for him would've been to save the mafia for at least 1 more night til he gets lynched the next day. | ||
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