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How about instead of asking retarded questions, you do things to make sure you don't end up on there? | ||
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On April 13 2011 13:57 darmousseh wrote: Analysis on me by chaoser + Show Spoiler + On April 13 2011 13:41 chaoser wrote: Read up to Page 83 and I want to look at someone Darm: He says this and yet when GM bounced around a bit he still voted him Backtracks off Kav Very much against Prot being in office, says he is probably mafia. But then, even though this whole time he was against Prot being in office, all of a sudden he changes his stance and says DrH's plan was "the most pro-town of all" when previous he had said Prot was probably red. Why would you want Prot in office then, regardless of if he is red or black? Again says he is weary prot...and kav + Show Spoiler + On April 12 2011 02:42 darmousseh wrote: I usually don't answer stuff like this because it's just trying to get people to react in a certain manner etc, but day 1 is always speculative. The only things we can go off so far is prot claiming. The other million posts in the thread are just useless "Lynch all lairs, lynch/dont lynch inactices, lynch lurkers" fluff which ver already wrote a good thread about and trying to argue whether it's good or not for a non town-aligned player to have a town favorable role (mayor) which is obviously idiotic without having to even argue against it. There are 2 types of people on day 1, spammers and lurkers. If you aren't spamming then, "omg you are a lurker you scum". I find that this analysis is usually wrong. Good scum will play the same as they normally do when they are scum or town, but it's the little things (like the words themselves) which give an indication whether a person is trying to act intentionally or just aggressively. This is why I believe that Kav is black, his posts seem "forced", but not forced enough when he was scum and he is playing safe, which is why I think he is black. I've been scum and town with kav before in the past and my read on him is based on those past games and while I think gmarshal is town, I think DrH is more town and is better suited for mayor at this point. I was a little weary of DrH only because he didn't believe me when I came up with a plan in mini-mafia (which ended up partially costing the game), but that is the past and I think he is a good person to lead town. Either him or gmarshal would be good candidates, going with DrH based on gut. On April 12 2011 14:55 darmousseh wrote: I'm mostly in agreement with this, but it's because I had a anti-town read on kav, and the way he went down was very anti-town. I was considering switching the vote for gmarshal towards the end, but kav just screwed town. lol...look at all this wishy washy posting Lynch Darm or Lynch ON on Day 2. I read kav and he is usually a good townie so at first he was helpful. After a while, his posts seemed forceful and intentional rather than his normal style of posting. Gmarshal is probably town, but DrH is definitely town based on games I've played with him in the past. We already determined that the pardoner is a bad role for town, so let's make prot pardoner and then lynch him. Simple plan easy to execute, guaranteed black dead. Also, we will have plenty of time tomorrow to find out the scum. We have all sorts of detectives, trackers, watchers to help get town information and information is power. Suggesting to lynch someone 5 minutes before the next day even starts is terrible. Electing prot as pardoner is a good idea, wasting a lynch to kill a black is bad, that doesnt make sense. Also, trying to make town feel comfortable with 'we have plenty of time to find scum' and encouraging reliance on power roles is scummy play. And wtf is with your last sentence? There's five minutes left in the night, it's definitely not too early to scumhunt. | ||
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On April 14 2011 04:50 LSB wrote: Oh. That would explain alot if Flamewheel is black. Flamewheel needs to get medic protection any way possible, so he does analysis on someone and tries to find a red. This is what most players, including me, are assuming at this point. But the thing is, who cares if he is black, as long as he is correctly finding reds for us we should keep him around. He must have picked coagulation as his target for a reason, he must be confident that coagulation will turn up red so he can get protection tonight. | ||
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On April 14 2011 11:30 GMarshal wrote: Well then I guess I have no choice but to claim. I'm a DT. I will *not* reveal who I checked as to not put them into any danger. I was hoping to keep this as a surprise to the scum in the lategame, but I'm not going to let the assassin get away with shit. Your attitude toward Protact made it obvious, tbh. Frankly, I'm not sure I believe it, and I'll explain why in a minute. | ||
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On April 14 2011 14:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Please stop posting. This interferes with my analysis of the game whether you think what you're posting is relevant or not. I have to agree. Dead people stay out of the thread pls. | ||
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In the OP, it states that not every role is guaranteed to be in the game. I believe that the DT is one role that is not in this game. My logic is simple; there's no millers. The miller role has been replaced by the nosy neighbour; a townie that shows up at deaths to throw doubt on tracker/watcher reports. I think that a DT with no miller is too powerful, so we probably only have trackers/watchers as our information roles. So I have a tough time believing GMarshal is a DT. Why didn't I bring this up for Pandain or Protact's DT claims? They were both obviously fake anyways... I figured I might as well hold on to this thought until someone claimed DT and was actually believed. However, even IF GMarshal is a DT, his little thing with Protact really doesn't change anything in my mind. To me, it's always been clear that Protact is assassin and faked DT claim. The argument about lynching Coagulation is that the only reason for him to fake a guilty on Coagulation is that he's sure Coagulation will flip red. That's what he's depending on, and his analysis should be given some weight for sure. (There is an outside chance that Protact believe Coag is black and is trying to get us to lynch him, but that's been shown to be unlikely already and if so Coag's win condition would require him to claim black to survive a little longer). And I haven't seen anyone argue against Protact's actual analysis of Coagulation, only against his DT claim. I thought from DrH's posts that he understood this, which is why I find it very strange that he switch off Coagulation after GMarshal's DT claim. | ||
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On April 15 2011 10:28 Coagulation wrote: Well im not gonna NOT ask for pardon AS town it would be pretty stupid to not plead my case. If you get pardoned, you will be guaranteed to be lynched tomorrow. That just wastes another day and is very anti-town. | ||
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On April 15 2011 10:55 GMarshal wrote: I'm not willing to be reasonable about this. I am sticking to my guns, if it means I die then so fucking be it. See you in hell fw! I do not lynch on the words of someone who is anti town I do not follow a liar I will not allow the town to do the same while it is in my power to prevent it. This isn't about weather or not coag is scum, I dont give a damn if protac guessed right. This is about fighting for my principles And I will be damned, to the pits of hell, if I go back on my principles. If you turn out to actually be town, I am never going to listen to a single thing you ever say in mafia again after your disastrous posting this game. | ||
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On April 15 2011 10:59 kitaman27 wrote: GMarshal, if this is one of those "see how the town reacts" moves, I swear I'll personally hunt you down. Pretty sure it's not, but he'll probably change his mind and claim it was within the next 3 hours. I hope so, anyway. | ||
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On April 15 2011 12:12 bumatlarge wrote: Was dropbear the guy that claimed tracker? I forgot about this. No, that was the guy with a 0 in this name. umm Monsterchef claimed he tracked redFF and redFF didn't go anywhere. | ||
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On April 15 2011 12:43 Serejai wrote: Guys... I know I have been trolling most of the game, and I feel with the recent drama I owe my Opinion on what is currently happening in the game. Because this is my first time playing I'm sure I Don't really know what's going on, but here's my take on things. First off, it seems like most people are just being sheep and following the advice of others without Any thoughts of their own. I know that's what I'm doing because I don't feel I understand enough to Think for my own just yet. Because of this, you veteran players need to realize that what you post Has a very large effect on players like myself. It feels like some players have personal issues with Each other and that's making it extremely hard for me to learn the gameplay. Stop the hateful Responses and personal attacks and stick to analyses and stuff please. Secondly, it feels like most of you are doing things with no real reason. A lot of you seem so overly Eager to tunnel in on someone even without solid proof, and so I'm finding myself changing votes to React to the newest "omg he's mafia, lynch him" target quite often. Like, is there a method to Everyone's madness? I'm having trouble seeing anything other than people calling out each other Just for the hell of it. For example, I personally feel that Coag and GM are scum and I don't have an Analysis of my own for them, so I don't post one. Yet other players that don't have their own are Insistent on posting random garbage just to bandwagon. It makes it hard for me to understand things.  Don't keep changing votes to react to the newest 'omg he's mafia'. Your job is to read all these accusations and figure out which ones make sense and which ones are bullshit. Sometimes you'll be right, sometimes you'll be wrong. As you get better at the game, you'll be right more often. | ||
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On April 15 2011 12:45 Kenpachi wrote: DropBear i wont argue with you. you're just new. I'd like to see your argument, actually. You've just dismissed the accusation over and over. I trust DropBear more than you at this point. Let's see what you have to say for yourself. | ||
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On April 15 2011 13:54 GMarshal wrote: Well, then I'm done. I played more pro-town this game than when I'm town. But you people are blind GG You certainly tried to, but you came off scummy, as I and others were saying since day 1. Sorry, man, learn from mistakes you made, don't blame us. | ||
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On April 15 2011 14:28 chaoser wrote: that lynch should have felt awesome. been calling him out since day 1. but it didn't even feel good...just left a bad taste in my mouth. blahhh. whatever. LSB Coag redFF all FoS-ed for obvious reasons -_- I know exactly what you mean. But at least I'm relieved he flipped red because I would have lost a lot of respect for GMarshal's town play if he flipped town lol. | ||
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