EPTI don't think Jackal is particularly suspicious, I find that other players are suspicious for not trying to make a case against Jackal as well (particularly bum & chaoser).
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
I don't think Jackal is particularly suspicious, I find that other players are suspicious for not trying to make a case against Jackal as well (particularly bum & chaoser). | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Two games ago, someone said to me (I dunno if it was Barundar or LSB or someone else, doesn't matter), that you have to lynch for information. Who do we get most information out of? I would guess Jbright because it gives us more information on the people "tied" to him (Seraph and LD, was it? Or someone else I'm missing, I didn't have time to go back through the thread all the way). | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
Not that I have anything against Jackal, I really don't, but I don't know why people are hating on LSB and nobody is really pushing Jackal. Lol why don't you start posting your reasons for suspecting Jackal yourself? Thats a really silly defense of LSB Two games ago, someone said to me (I dunno if it was Barundar or LSB or someone else, doesn't matter), that you have to lynch for information. Who do we get most information out of? I would guess Jbright because it gives us more information on the people "tied" to him (Seraph and LD, was it? Or someone else I'm missing, I didn't have time to go back through the thread all the way). You are by no means a noob at this game. Why do you want to lynch for information over lynching mafia? | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On March 03 2011 03:51 GMarshal wrote: Its day 3 and LSB isn't dead, this to me is incredibly suspicious, Why would mafia nightkill me? I'm the perfect lynch target for them. They lynch me and their like "oh oops" Speaking of which... usually I wouldn't go after a major player like him, but seeing what he flips will tell us alot about other peoples alignments, specifically chaoser, barundar and bumatlarge. Lets see what LSB flips, shall we? Lynching for information then? Interesting. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Jbright who played 1 game on TL don't have much I can use past history that I can based off of. Ser Aspi did compared Jbright's town play in Orpah and found contradictions. But compared to... Seraph who Foolishness did an analysis on, Seraph's lynch is reasoned better. I know that some of the reasons are kind of similar to the reason of my lynch (posting behavior/activeness)... Foolishness's conclusion of Seraph: Conclusion: Seraph's posting rates shows he's either mafia or a bored townie. When we look at his past games, we see a somewhat aggressive posting style (not afraid to speak his mind) and concern for the well-being of the town. This game there is a clear lack of that as his posts just indicate that he's here watching. I do agree that I remember Seraph as someone who is not afraid to speak his mind and it does seem weird in this game where his posts are pretty calm. I also agree that mafia would prefer to watch and not to slip if they are not forced to post. The other reason Foolishness brought up is Seraph was "bored" after the game started and even if he hasn't gotten a blue role as town, he should be excited for this game after town got 1 mafia lynched on day1. I skim through Seraph's post and found many of his earlier posts are short/one liner. But he did say on his post "498" that he wasted his 6666 post and way later on his post "644," he indicated that he is playing a lot in pm land. If that is the case, then he wasn't "bored" and was more active than what it seemed on the thread. I want to ask if people can justify that they were having pm conversation with Seraph. Although if Seraph is mafia, other mafia can lie and justify this reason but if enough people justify for Seraph, I doubt they are all mafia. This can also be used later on to group people together. The last person is LSB. The first reason is he surviving after two night. The second night is more suspicious since a medic was killed a night before. I understand this is not a strong reason but should take into consideration later on because I do find it weird that mafia is not trying to gun down the 1 of the 2 top player. The next reason is the KP contradiction: It doesn't make sense at all. No vig claimed yet and there is no incentive for not claiming. They already shot and will only act as vanilla townie. The benefit of justifying the KP issue is way more than absorbing a kill as vanilla townie. People already mentioned that the KP do not adds up. I find it especially weird on day on night 1, there were 3 deaths. On night 2, there were 3 deaths (none claimed by vig) and 2 roleblock claims. Therefore if the roleblock claims are true, it indicates that mafia have more than 2.5 KP. I have no idea why won't mafia spend the extra KP on the extra kill. Also what happened that the missing KP on night 1 if mafia do have so many KPs. Again, not using these KP on extra kill but on other powers is a waste. I want to point out that Jackal also claimed being roleblocked. LSB shouldn't be voted only because of this KP contradiction It just doesn't make sense at all and I hope an explanation can be made. If we were able to justify the case, I would like to fall back to voting Seraph. Those who pmed with Seraph, please claimed. You don't have to post the pms if you don't want to, but at least describe how much you interacted with Seraph. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
The reason why I claimed to be roleblocked is because it is standard practice for town to claim when they are roleblocked. In addition, I'm disappointed by the day 3 lynch. When we have very attractive scum such as SeRapH, instead people decide to 'vote for information'? Lynching for information is horrible. What useful information would you guys get when I flip green? | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On March 03 2011 05:22 LunarDestiny wrote: If we were able to justify the case, I would like to fall back to voting Seraph. Those who pmed with Seraph, please claimed. You don't have to post the pms if you don't want to, but at least describe how much you interacted with Seraph. I didn't talk with Seraph, but Gmarshal did say he had a conversation with him. ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/iTVAK.jpg) | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
The last person is LSB. The first reason is he surviving after two night. The second night is more suspicious since a medic was killed a night before. I understand this is not a strong reason but should take into consideration later on because I do find it weird that mafia is not trying to gun down the 1 of the 2 top player. Lol yeah there is those 2 reasons to vote LSB. Where have you been all day 2? I want to point out that Jackal also claimed being roleblocked. LSB shouldn't be voted only because of this KP contradiction Seems like a recurring theme suddenly! | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On March 03 2011 05:25 Barundar wrote: Lol yeah there is those 2 reasons to vote LSB. Where have you been all day 2? Seems like a recurring theme suddenly! On March 03 2011 05:19 LSB wrote: Why would mafia nightkill me? I'm the perfect lynch target for them. They lynch me and their like "oh oops" Speaking of which... Lynching for information then? Interesting. I still think you're Scum Barundar | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
I still think you're Scum Barundar Pissing all over your scum team is fun  | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Like I said, I don't care how its done, but I want Barundar to die. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On March 03 2011 05:25 Barundar wrote: Lol yeah there is those 2 reasons to vote LSB. Where have you been all day 2? Seems like a recurring theme suddenly! Well, I remember day 2 as there not much reason behind the lynch and at the end, I was defending myself like mad. I don't have much to say about me keep bring up jackal. But I was writing about the KP contradiction and that also applies to jackal who currently is not on the lynch. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
THE AMOUNT OF SUSPECTS THAT POPPED UP FOR DEBATE SO EARLY INTO THE LYNCH INDICATES JBRIGHT IS SCUM. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
Well, I remember day 2 as there not much reason behind the lynch and at the end, I was defending myself like mad. I don't have much to say about me keep bring up jackal. But I was writing about the KP contradiction and that also applies to jackal who currently is not on the lynch. Way to go defend yourself when I was just poking at your similar argument to cubed, who popped up at same time as you and LSB. You feeling guilty? | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On March 03 2011 05:30 LSB wrote: Hey guys? Why don't you be like gryffindor and think that Barundar is red and I'm bussing him again? Like I said, I don't care how its done, but I want Barundar to die. I'm sure he will die eventually. After you get lynched, mafia has no use of the WIFOM arguments that they thought they could put to use in explaining why he isn't dead or you aren't dead. Just come clean you godfather. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
On March 03 2011 05:36 Coagulation wrote: I just want to point at that I STARTED THE DAY WITH VOTE ON JBRIGHT People followed and he had a good amount of votes and suddenly suspects are being brought up left and right now THE AMOUNT OF SUSPECTS THAT POPPED UP FOR DEBATE SO EARLY INTO THE LYNCH INDICATES JBRIGHT IS SCUM. You vote with no reason. There is several analyses afterwards, and really the only 2 other targets are Seraph and LSB. Other targets didn't just pop up, different people argued for them, you didn't for yours. How about you criticise the analyses instead of the targets? | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
your defense of him is pretty sad | ||
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