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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 27 2011 17:10 GMT
#961
On February 28 2011 02:08 deconduo wrote:
@LSB
Thats not much of a defense.

Go lynch Barundar and once he flips red that will be my defense.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 27 2011 17:15 GMT
#962
On February 28 2011 02:09 LSB wrote:
Barundar's contradiction (again)
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 19:04 Barundar wrote:
LSB doesn’t need convincing of Foolishness either:
Everyone trusts certain people. For example, I'm trusting Foolishness because I don't believe that RoL would make him mafia given the state of TL town.

This argument has no behaviour support at this point in the game. It’s an arbitrary reason for placing trust in someone, and it lacks that distrust of others that is indicative of town behaviour.

So we can't speculate about role picks?

Oh look what you did yourself
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2011 01:43 Barundar wrote:
At the same time it’s clear from the night hits that we have at least 1 experienced analysist on the scum team. The only really experienced players in the game are LSB and Foolishness.


In fact, you did the exact same thing. You trusted Foolishness with Absolute no behavior support and accused me of being scum for doing the same


Flawed/bad argument. You claimed host wouldn't pick Foolishness as mafia. He claimed there was an experienced player due to the play, and that you and Foolishness were the 2 most experienced. Theres a big difference.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 27 2011 17:17 GMT
#963
Yeah, thats enough for me but I'm still lynching gryff tomorrow.

##Unvote
##Vote LSB
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 27 2011 17:23 GMT
#964
[QUOTE]On February 28 2011 02:08 deconduo wrote:
[QUOTE]Why have the two of you completely discounted the possibility of both of them being town?[/QUOTE]
I haven't. But pressure works better than praise. I'm still favoring gryffindor.
Life can only kill you once.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 27 2011 17:24 GMT
#965
I'm happy that I noticed before anyone else, but there is a few mistakes in my post.

Part 1, under 1)
and why argued that LSB was suspicious.

should read
and why argued that annul was suspecious


Part 2, near the end:
On February 25 2011 07:25 LSB wrote:
~snip~

Gryfs Pms

Show nested quote +
Original Message From gryffindor:
that guy also defended a few other people, but sure, he didn't want to lynch annul.
Can you admit that you wanting to lynch annul is null in that you would be doing it regardless of what either of your alignments are?


Why would a townie be so concerned with connections to others before we even know if we have 1 scum? This early in the game it’s very unusual for mafia to directly defend each others. But a mafia whos bussing his team mate needs someone to connect to afterwards, to make the lynch worthwhile.


Should read:
On February 25 2011 07:25 LSB wrote:
~snip~

Gryfs Pms

Show nested quote +
Original Message From gryffindor:
that guy also defended a few other people, but sure, he didn't want to lynch annul.
Can you admit that you wanting to lynch annul is null in that you would be doing it regardless of what either of your alignments are?

This is a clear defense of Icemanic, and trying to soft defend annul. I am confident in saying that if I replied with "ya your right, I think annul is town but I hate him and just want to lynch him", gryffindor would be supporting Annul.


Will read over LSB's posts now.
Bartundar
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
February 27 2011 17:36 GMT
#966
At the moment I am actually thinking that both Barundar and LSB are town and are just at each other's throats. I just didn't find Barundar's arguments all that convincing, as I read through it I was like "sure, but he could also be town with that behavior". But I don't think Barundar would have posted something that long without being town (and he is fitting his town m.o. of long analysis + conspiracy theories). Of course, now that LSB is defending himself, I feel he is more likely mafia because he isn't considering the possibility that Barundar is town and his only defense is that we should lynch Barundar (really?)

To me, the best explanation of the annul lynch was simply that icemac and possibly gryff are mafia and it was difficult to lynch anyone else. LSB may be mafia but I think icemac being mafia would open up that case a lot (if icemac is mafia then LSB is likely mafia opportunistically taking credit for busing annul after its clear he is going to die). Icemac has also done nothing today and soft defended annul a lot yesterday.

Anyway, for now:

##Unvote
##Vote: Icemac
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 27 2011 17:36 GMT
#967
I don't like this "I think both of them are town" argument.

Barundar is red. Lynch him.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 27 2011 17:42 GMT
#968
On February 28 2011 02:36 LSB wrote:
I don't like this "I think both of them are town" argument.

Barundar is red. Lynch him.

I'm wondering if team scum is ballsy enough to bus two members two days in a row in order to create the illusion that one of you is so freaking town that he can become almost immune to scrutiny.
Life can only kill you once.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 27 2011 17:44 GMT
#969
Idc if you think I'm scum as long as you kill Barundar. And then I'll kill another scum for you day three. We cool?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 27 2011 17:47 GMT
#970
I attack individual posts and make them too big, my analysis is wifom
I've quoted most of your post in my analysis, and all has been taken into account. Where do I use wifom? I quoted Qatol’s description of your playstyle from that very same game as your link.

Where is your analysis of my playstyle?

There was plenty of evidence for me to vote annul
LSB himself didn't characterise annul as mafia untill quite a few posts later. I quoted Kitaman's summary of the votes on annul in my analysis. They where hardly an indication of a substantial case.

Barundar argues for Foolishness being town
Deconduo answered this. I argued based on behaviour why LSB was more suspecious than Foolishness, at no point do I say I trust him.

Lynch Barundar, when he flips red it proves I'm green
Fine with me.
Bartundar
why
Profile Joined May 2009
United States215 Posts
February 27 2011 17:48 GMT
#971
@LSB What exactly is your argument again? As far as I can tell it is "he forced analysis on Jackal to shift the lynch from annul" and now "Barundar's case on me isn't that good". You seem awful sure for that to be your evidence.

Barundar seems to be playing his pretty usual town self, and the conspiracy theory is totally town from him (see XXXV Barundar believes RoL bussed annul).

I have a question: If Barundar is red, then why did he do analysis on Jackal rather than on icemac or gryff yesterday? Both of them had more heat on them and would have been an easier lynch than starting something on jackal.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
February 27 2011 17:49 GMT
#972
As far as I can see LSB is just trying to get an extra day by getting Barun lynched first. He's not even defending himself.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 27 2011 17:49 GMT
#973
On February 28 2011 02:47 Barundar wrote:
Lynch Barundar, when he flips red it proves I'm green
Fine with me.


Everyone read this ^
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 27 2011 17:51 GMT
#974
On February 28 2011 02:48 why wrote:
@LSB What exactly is your argument again? As far as I can tell it is "he forced analysis on Jackal to shift the lynch from annul" and now "Barundar's case on me isn't that good". You seem awful sure for that to be your evidence.

He was the one who tried to redirect the lynch from annul, and this is shown as he forced analysis on Jackal.

I have a question: If Barundar is red, then why did he do analysis on Jackal rather than on icemac or gryff yesterday? Both of them had more heat on them and would have been an easier lynch than starting something on jackal.

I've already explained why gryff is a harder lynch. As for iceman, well... it would be interesting if iceman was red. That could explain why annul was reluctant to lynch him.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
February 27 2011 18:20 GMT
#975
On February 28 2011 02:47 Barundar wrote:
Lynch Barundar, when he flips red it proves I'm green
Fine with me.


I suggest we do this or lynch Icemac.

We can move forward by
1) lynching Barundar
2) lynching LSB
3) lynching Icemac

Those are the only viable ways of moving forward i can see.

I suggest we lynch Barundar today and if he turns out to be town we lynch LSB

If you think they are both town then we should lynch Icemac

Anyways

##VOTE Barundar
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 27 2011 18:27 GMT
#976
On February 28 2011 03:20 kevconsim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2011 02:47 Barundar wrote:
Lynch Barundar, when he flips red it proves I'm green
Fine with me.


I suggest we do this or lynch Icemac.

We can move forward by
1) lynching Barundar
2) lynching LSB
3) lynching Icemac

Those are the only viable ways of moving forward i can see.

I suggest we lynch Barundar today and if he turns out to be town we lynch LSB

If you think they are both town then we should lynch Icemac

Anyways

##VOTE Barundar

We could also move forward by lynching the players on life support.
Life can only kill you once.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
February 27 2011 18:33 GMT
#977
life support?
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 27 2011 18:37 GMT
#978
On February 28 2011 03:33 kevconsim wrote:
life support?

Barely posting. You know. Like 10 posts in 49 pages.
Life can only kill you once.
kevconsim
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
February 27 2011 18:39 GMT
#979
Random aim vs 33% chance hit

I believe that one of these 3 are mafia.
Maybe more
Just to let you know that if you read really slow that you are in fact reading this beautifully written quote you will have totally wasted like 10 seconds of your life.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 27 2011 18:42 GMT
#980
On February 28 2011 03:33 kevconsim wrote:
life support?


Think he's talk about you kev.

Also, LSB, shame on you. Your whole defense has been lynch him first! he's mafia! I'm not! when he flips red you'll see how I'm green. You claim all he's doing is WIFOM but you're doing the same by linking to old games. We can't trust "play style" analysis 100% since smart players will obviously change it up. Or not change it up. That's WIFOM too. Respond to his individual points please, until you do my vote will be on you. He was willing to write a fucking essay; if he was mafia trying that hard, and you're really town, you would try just as hard. So far you're not and so you scumminess is getting higher for me.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
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