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On October 28 2009 13:39 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 13:11 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Let me put this as clearly and succinctly as possible so that you guys can perhaps finally get it...
IF YOU SUSPECT REDTOOTH YOU HAVE TO SUSPECT VIVI AND VICE VERSA
Please kill these mafia already... I keep asking why you keep repeating this. Is it that they have been voting identically?
You haven't asked yet, but Shikyo just did in a PM so I guess no one has figured it out yet. I'm not going to roleclaim, as it IS one of the rules.... They have never once argued against each other in anything, and their posts are rather evenly interspersed within the thread, almost as if they're one person taking turns making a short burst of posts before retreating to the shadows... seems like mafia behavior to me.
Additionally, we can note that Judge and Scamp have behaved similarly, although in a much quieter way.
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On October 28 2009 15:15 Scamp wrote:
That scenario might make the most sense but it's wrong. The mafia hit Incognito and Dreamflower, unless the way the deaths are described have no meaning. There may not be clues, but the way they died is still valid.
Also don't forget that L could simply be lying.
Wow, is it just me or does everything about this post just scream mafia... gg Scamp
He clearly talks about the mafia like he is part of it.. if no one else can see this... I dunno what's up with you xD
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All right.. I really don't understand wtf you guys are doing now.. I give you two confirmed mafia and you run off and vote for Chez.. just because he's a brown-noser doesn't mean his brown obsession needs to cloud your judgments on the obvious truths laid out upon you :/
If Vivi is voting for Chez, he clearly knows Chez isn't red, as who else would vote for a teammate so early on in the day? PUH-LEAZE~
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On October 28 2009 18:35 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2009 18:29 SugiuraMidori wrote:
All right.. I really don't understand wtf you guys are doing now.. I give you two confirmed mafia and you run off and vote for Chez.. just because he's a brown-noser doesn't mean his brown obsession needs to cloud your judgments on the obvious truths laid out upon you :/
If Vivi is voting for Chez, he clearly knows Chez isn't red, as who else would vote for a teammate so early on in the day? PUH-LEAZE~ ??? vivi is confirmed? I've obviously missed something
So is redtooth, they're both on the same team, like I've been saying for some time now :/
You can't have one without the other, they're partners in crime.
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On October 29 2009 07:47 Qatol wrote:More like a town of the undead! I still roam the streets!
And I already know I'm a vampire!
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I don't want to sound suspicious by throwing the town back and forth, but this had to be brought up, and apparently I am not breaking rules by doing this after all..
All right then, I'm having a heck of a time trying to figure something out now... maybe town can help better... So here I lay out my thoughts as best I can..
I know that Vivi and Redtooth are on the same team because they both checked as blue, meaning they're the same color. Since the town has been adamant about one or the other having been red almost all game, I figured that blue meant red (implying I'm either paranoid or crooked).
However, and this is something I really don't know how to explain, but with a little help from a PM from tricode made a bit of sense... I have had a gut feeling that Shikyo is doing a hella good job as GF and been playing me this whole time since I generally trust him ever since the game where he was Mayer and I was Mafia. Additionally, Tricode mentioned that Pyrr has still been acting suspiciously and thus could be red (fitting with needing a vet on the mafia team) and then there's Chez, whom others have been saying is acting exactly like when he was red in another game....
This kind of leaves us with two options, each of which has nearly equal consequences:
1) I am right about my sanity, due to town and my own observations we somehow managed to find two living red players that I conveniently checked and saw they are on the same team.
2) I'm totally wrong about my sanity and my gut feelings should be used..
In the case of (2) we would end up voting with something based on a gut feeling instead of possible fact, perhaps nabbing a mafia, and of course everyone would like a red team of Pyrr, Chez, and Shikyo better than a red team of Vivi57, redtooth, Scamp which has no obvious vet players (since we must add judge) ... the latter option of course would confirm my sanity, be more unbelievable, and possibly not get us any mafia killed.
If Pyrr had bothered to tell us the bodyguards, and pretend it's Vivi and Redtooth for a moment, well for some miraculous reason I checked them and they are on the same team.. meaning that mafia subbed in two reds or no reds.. which Pyrr of course couldn't tell us (and sure wouldn't if he was red ^_^)
I seriously don't know what to do with these checks, and I can obviously only confirm that they are on the same team since they both came up blue (meaning one of them is NOT the GF) and just now I realized that one could be a non-red and the other a godfather..
I really don't know how to interpret this now.. I was so sure before, but now I'm lost.. please help town :/
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On October 29 2009 10:49 Tricode wrote:
Pyrr, why are you using 2 votes this time?
My dear Tricode, it is a well known fact, and one Qatol forgot to observe till now, that the Mayor counts for two votes.
I'm sorry Shikyo, I guess I just see you as a good player, on my level, pardon the overestimation.
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Well, I was just pointed to the rather blatant fact that Pyrr has voted for Chez, so it's rather unlikely they're on the same team. So either one is red (more likely Pyrr than Chez), or Pyrr is just in the dark as usual.
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Yeh, and BC already gave me a way to guarantee my sanity even after the lynch, so I'll perhaps make use of that, unless Vivi turns up red, which I hear is slim possibility (uhg, guess I'm not that good at reading people like I thought).
Well, at least, if I do die, and Vivi is the one lynched, at least you can connect w/e Vivi is to what Redtooth is.
For a while I thought Chez was another hatter, but after what Shikyo mentioned.. I'm not sure. Then again, I really can't seem to trust my own judgment atm, so I'd really rather wait to see what happens before I have better reasoning behind everything.
Once we get Vivi's color, I get my sanity, and I can group everyone based on the PM's I've had, as well as the rest of the towns inferences.
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LOL regardless, I'm going to use this chance to show all my lists as a merged set with progressions, perhaps it'll help us some.
Hopefully I'll do this right~
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On October 30 2009 11:12 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
well, i'll be dipped in shit.
ROFL .. nice pun
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1st
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I was correct on: Ace, and Chez, and Dreamflower;
Indescisive on: Incog, Scamp, and Caller;
Correct in non-red sense on: Foolish
Wrong on: Judge
We are yet unsure on the rest
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 23 2009 09:59 SugiuraMidori wrote:1. Dreamflower2. Foolishness3. Ace <-- Acting like a non-red Ace 4. vx70GTOJudgexv <-- Acting like the blue Judge we know from before 5. RebirthofLegend <-- Small chance of being red, however, due to the poor plan to out all the Veterans and DT's. 6. Bloodyc0bbler <-- he's being an annoying senseless post-rhymer because he has nothing else useful to do for the town and just wants to be lynched out of here. 7. Incognito 8. Amber[Light] <-- Not too bright, rare posts, not massively interested in the game? 9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- too much goofing around compared to when he's red 10. L <-- Trying to rule the world, evil man, useless arguments, mafia. 11. Tricode <-- Trying to keep himself alive because he's useful, but can't be mafia cuz they'd be slapping him around for being a douche. 12. Vivi57 <-- knew far too soon that tricode was non-red 13. Infundibulum <-- acting reasonably smart. 14. Sugiuramidori <-- Me  15. Scamp 16. Shikyo <-- Not acting anything like his previous games were he wasn't red, and also it's perhaps his turn to try being red. 17. Caller 18. Motbob <-- dead man walking 19. Redtooth20. Heavonearth21. Chezinu <-- On and on about his stupid brown stuff, vibe I get is he's red. (no useful posts either)
2nd
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Pretty much the same as in the 1st case
After RC on Redtooth
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 25 2009 10:30 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Still sticking to this list with small modifications:
1. Dreamflower
2. Foolishness
3. Ace <-- He admitted this, but how true is it?
4. vx70GTOJudgexv
5. RebirthofLegend
6. Bloodyc0bbler
7. Incognito
8. Amber[Light]
9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- becoming suspiciously more red.. in Chez's terms, he's brown
10. L
11. Tricode
12. Vivi57 <-- We all know he's red now.
13. Infundibulum
14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red
15. Scamp
16. Shikyo <--10% red
17. Caller
18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability
19. Redtooth <-- not blue
20. Heavonearth <-- not red
21. Chezinu
3rd
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Changed my Chez assumption to Blue based on not dieing after he told me in PM he knew my role
After the RC on Vivi57
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 28 2009 13:22 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Not to spam.. but I guess I should update my list....
1. Dreamflower <-- I was right, sad though..
2. Foolishness
3. Ace
4. vx70GTOJudgexv <-- Well, I was wrong on one.. so maybe Ace knew what he was doing after all ;P
5. RebirthofLegend
6. Bloodyc0bbler
7. Incognito
8. Amber[Light]
9. Pyrrhuloxia
10. L <-- just claimed as Vet role
11. Tricode
12. Vivi57 <-- same as redtooth
13. Infundibulum
14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red (Shikyo and Chez know my role)
15. Scamp
16. Shikyo <--10% red
17. Caller
18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability
19. Redtooth <-- same as vivi
20. Heavonearth <-- not red
21. Chezinu On October 28 2009 11:00 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Wow....
1. Dreamflower <-- I was right, sad though..
2. Foolishness
3. Ace
4. vx70GTOJudgexv <-- Well, I was wrong on one.. so maybe Ace knew what he was doing after all ;P
5. RebirthofLegend
6. Bloodyc0bbler
7. Incognito
8. Amber[Light]
9. Pyrrhuloxia
10. L
11. Tricode
12. Vivi57 <-- same as redtooth
13. Infundibulum
14. Sugiuramidori <-- not red (Shikyo and Chez know my role)
15. Scamp <---??????
16. Shikyo <--10% red
17. Caller
18. Motbob <-- mostly based on what others have pointed out as a probability
19. Redtooth <-- same as vivi
20. Heavonearth <-- not red
21. Chezinu
And now:
Firstly, I am changing all instances of blue to green because I don't need the mafia knowing what else I know from PM's. Unless of course it's from a public claim or death, in which case all the town knows anyhow and gets to asses.
1. Dreamflower
2. Foolishness
3. Ace
4. vx70GTOJudgexv
5. RebirthofLegend
6. Bloodyc0bbler <-- Used him for my sanity check.. so blame him if I'm wrong.
7. Incognito
8. Amber[Light]
9. Pyrrhuloxia
10. L <-- Claimed as such, we should all believe what we must
11. Tricode
12. Vivi57 <-- Same as Redtooth
13. Infundibulum <-- I'm pretty damn sure he's blue if L is blue
14. Sugiuramidori
15. Scamp <-- Do we know?
16. Shikyo <-- PM stuff, he wholeheartedly believed that Chez wasn't red, and knew about Chez spreading the false PM's (and even asked Shikyo if they were any good)
17. Caller
18. Motbob
19. Redtooth <-- Same as Vivi57
20. Heavonearth
21. Chezinu
So I'm going to go on a limb here and guess that I'm Crooked, too scared to claim it to mods and have them tell me for sure, not that it matters since I wouldn't get much out of it.
Vivi57 != Redtooth iff one is GF
Town still has suspicions on: L, Pyrr, and Amber.. however, I'd like to think that Pyrr is innocent since he was the FIRST to vote for Chez, and then ran away to hide in a corner.. that's pretty harsh to do to your own team.
As for L, we'll see, and for Amber.. it came from BC, who is probably the town 'pro player'
EDIT== Fixed a lost /quote tag
iff == if and only if (for those that don't know)
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For anyone that doesn't catch it... I just sorta gave a 3-person medic list if you'd like to make use of it. Though not protecting me would be sad story.
If folks would like to help choose who I check each night from now on, that's fine too.
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On October 30 2009 12:32 L wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2009 11:53 SugiuraMidori wrote:
For anyone that doesn't catch it... I just sorta gave a 3-person medic list if you'd like to make use of it. Though not protecting me would be sad story.
If folks would like to help choose who I check each night from now on, that's fine too. Are you confirmed with your sanity at this point?
To the point that I know colors, yes.. but what a Blue specifically is doesn't matter, so why should I risk it in case we later find something that contradicts what BC said he was and thus having had been wrong on my sanity. This way I keep getting "mystery" roles returned to me, but I know what they are color wise.
I'm sure the mods hadn't intended for this, but I meh.. by rules they can't change what they've been doing unless I were to claim the wrong sanity... So I will continue to know all the colors fine, but yeh.. the type of blue doesn't matter for a damn, only the base colors do.
HOWEVER, If we had numbers, then it could perhaps matter for zeroing in on the GF, but since they're obsessed with "? of ?" numbering now, it doesn't matter in the least.
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EBWOP:: Basically, I'm not sending in a sanity PM until someone I've checked dies and isn't the GF
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On October 30 2009 16:47 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2009 16:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I think we should vote for double lynch for Day 5 (Voting the next day cycle means double lynch on Day 5)
By then our DT's should have a list narrowed down and we should have a decent list. Im totally down for that. With the new day, both dts should be confirmed, as well as a few targets. I would say we should get a list of potential red suspects to have a look over posts to see if we can narrow a list down, or not.
I wonder if anyone saw my previous DT Plan post (it was sort of hidden amongst another post) so I wonder if the other DT would like to follow that? I worry that there are not two medics to protect us both so I would guess it pertinent you use a voice or the like for your findings.
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All right guys!!! It's been a successful night.
THANK YOU MEDIC!!~~ So mafia Is definitely after me ;P
So we going on double lynch and who?
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Well there, I placed in the vote against BC despite not really wanting to... hopefully we can find a better suspect later?
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1. Dreamflower
2. Foolishness
3. Ace
4. vx70GTOJudgexv
5. RebirthofLegend
6. Bloodyc0bbler <-- Used him for my sanity check.. means I'm either Crooked or Insane
7. Incognito
8. Amber[Light]
9. Pyrrhuloxia
10. L <-- Claimed as Vet
11. Tricode
12. Vivi57 <-- Same as Redtooth
13. Infundibulum <-- I'm pretty damn sure he's blue if L is blue
14. Sugiuramidori
15. Scamp <-- Do we know?
16. Shikyo <-- He is only red if he's the GF (like I've suspected all along......)
17. Caller
18. Motbob
19. Redtooth <-- Same as Vivi57
20. Heavonearth
21. Chezinu
Bold == a RC was involved.
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Not sure what's up with the rest of town, but perhaps we should start thinking about the double lynch we have coming up as soon as night ends. As I'm sure the mafia is holding us up with their thinking frantically on how they can win now xD
So of the unchecked people from my side (that is known publicly).. we have:
RoL, Amber, Pyrr, L, Tricode, Infun, Scamp, Motbob, HoE.
Of these.. I can't recall anything from HoE in a long time.
Of my checked, possible GF is of course: Shikyo, Vivi, or Redtooth.. but only one of them has that possibility, rest are innocent.
If we do have another DT (would mean there were 3 this game) they can help divvy up the rest of my unchecked.. however that takes us to around 3 nights to do (lynches etc taking away ppl).
Opinions?
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