EPT[EU LCS] Summer 2014 Playoffs Week 2 - Page 38
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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nonlamer
Thailand322 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:13 LaNague wrote: Eu looks sad, guess we need some chinese reject team to come and wake everyone else up. Or Korean team  | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:13 Djin)ftw( wrote: Hm, I think its more because of how bad assassins are (and how strong exhaust was/still is). Assassins should be the natural counter to ADCs, but apparantly only zed fizz kass are viable in 4.13 and get shit on in lane too much. Dunno €: then again, talon was played pretty often. Hm. Will be interesting to see what people will play at worlds on 4.15. Prolly zed fizz talon Worlds are on 4.14. Outside of Ahri and some random Zeds/Fizzes there will be no assassins at Worlds. | ||
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kongoline
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Worlds are on 4.14. Outside of Ahri and some random Zeds/Fizzes there will be no assassins at Worlds. I believe in talon hype On August 16 2014 04:30 kongoline wrote: bruisers are also dead That's a separate issue stemming from "maokai and alistar are fucking broken" | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Worlds are on 4.14. Outside of Ahri and some random Zeds/Fizzes there will be no assassins at Worlds. These 3 are totally viable though and enough to not be banned away. So if anyone wants to play assassin he can. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:32 Fusilero wrote: I believe in talon hype That's a separate issue stemming from "maokai and alistar are fucking broken" i dont think thats entirely true, most bruisers got nerfed and their itemization got hit hard while adcs got stronger, only viable ones who are the ones who didnt get nerfed like irelia and even she doesnt do so good | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:36 kongoline wrote: i dont think thats entirely true, most bruisers got nerfed and their itemization got hit hard while adcs got stronger, only viable ones who are relatively viable are the ones who didnt get nerfed like irelia and a lot of the times she doesnt do good Tbh the time when renek shyv jax could tank 1v4 for fucking ages while still wreck the adc was terrible. I'm glad we are past that. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:42 Djin)ftw( wrote: so now we have broken mao /alistar tanking everything for hours or play utility shit like lulu,zilean and be adc's bitch exciting balance of rolesTbh the time when renek shyv jax could tank 1v4 for fucking ages while still wreck the adc was terrible. I'm glad we are past that. | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:33 Redox wrote: These 3 are totally viable though and enough to not be banned away. So if anyone wants to play assassin he can. I don't think that holy trinity of Orianna, Ziggs and Syndra will see less play than those 3. Plus there is TF and random Lulu or even Jayce. Oh, and ap Kog'Maw/ blue Ezreal probably, at least, i won't be surprised at all. And Tristana, ofc. Ah, and Kassadin. Assassins right now are in awkward position because they can't dominate their lane and roam but on the other hand, they're viable. Also, there are not that many Ahri players who're going to Worlds, Cool was never spamming her, so are other Chinese midlaners, dade and Faker will win any lane outside of playing each other anyway and Pawn doesn't play her. xPeke and Froggen are legit Ahri players, Overpow doesn't play her and in NA, outside of Link i can't really think about her because Bjergsen was never famous Ahri player, Hai doesn't play her even if he's so-called Season 3 player and Shiphtur won't go to Worlds. And i dunno about XWX. Chawy doesn't play Ahri either iirc. Zed and Fizz in that case are in better shape with Fizz always being #1 assassin in China and Zed being Zed. I don't believe in Talon hype, it seems so random. On less serious note, does anyone know when is rebroadcast of Champions finals tonight? Because i won't be able to watch and don't wanna be spoiled either by looking in twitter in the evening. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:45 kongoline wrote: so now we have broken mao /alistar tanking everything for hours or play utility shit like lulu,zilean and be adc's bitch exciting balance of roles Mao's already hit slightly on 4.14 and we've seen today that vs trist and Kog, who did get nerfed a bit in 4.14 and who will still be staple for worlds, that they can deal with those quite easily. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:50 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: On less serious note, does anyone know when is rebroadcast of Champions finals tonight? Because i won't be able to watch and don't wanna be spoiled either by looking in twitter in the evening. I think rebroadcasts are always 18 CEST, not sure what is that in your timezone. Also, Jesiz plays Ahri too :^) | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On August 16 2014 05:04 AlterKot wrote: I think rebroadcasts are always 18 CEST, not sure what is that in your timezone. Also, Jesiz plays Ahri too :^) Uh, thanks. 8 pm is perfect, will be home right about that time :D But Overpow doesn't :^) | ||
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Thermia
United States866 Posts
alliance looked pretty mediocre today though | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:47 orzeu wrote: The biggest problem is that you can't punish hyper carries in laning phase. In past you would pick Caith/Lucian etc and bully them. Now it's impossible. I found the patch notes that made Tri's rocket jump slow worse had "we want to make sure that Trist makes a meaningful strategic tradeoff with a weaker early to mid game before transforming into a late game powerhouse." Yeah, because it's so easy to prevent the game from reaching late game these days. Honestly, season 2 -> season 3 -> season 4 has pretty much been a pendulum in terms of who is strong. ADCs very strong in season 2 (although mids more the crux), complete trash in season 3, then sort of in between for season 4 until they decide halfway through the season ADCs need to be gods for some reason. Honestly if they just undid the last 5 or so patches worlds would probably be a lot more interesting. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On August 16 2014 07:23 TitusVI wrote: SK should have it in the bag tomorrow. Xaxus and overpow to heavy. Not really, SK seem to fall apart at some point in games, Roccat have enough mental fortitude. Jankos is playing out of his mind in playoffs anyway, it should be enough if Vander is going to be a factor. If i had forced to predict, i would have gone with 3-1 or 3-2 Roccat for sure. Overpow just has to stop playing Fizz probably. On August 16 2014 07:05 zer0das wrote: I found the patch notes that made Tri's rocket jump slow worse had "we want to make sure that Trist makes a meaningful strategic tradeoff with a weaker early to mid game before transforming into a late game powerhouse." Yeah, because it's so easy to prevent the game from reaching late game these days. Honestly, season 2 -> season 3 -> season 4 has pretty much been a pendulum in terms of who is strong. ADCs very strong in season 2 (although mids more the crux), complete trash in season 3, then sort of in between for season 4 until they decide halfway through the season ADCs need to be gods for some reason. Honestly if they just undid the last 5 or so patches worlds would probably be a lot more interesting. Only problem with ADs in pre-trinity force patch Season 3 was lack of real ads with being legit at every point of the game, you was either forced to go Caitlyn and everyone who played ad at least a bit knows, how atrocious is to play Caitlyn and on the other side there were likes of Ezreal/MF/Vayne/Tristana and that's it. On the other hand, Season 3 was definitely better than Season 2, at least because of BotRK introduction, it gave at least some variety and breath of fresh air instead of going ie/pd every game with every ad but Corki/Ezreal. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On August 16 2014 04:32 Fusilero wrote: That's a separate issue stemming from "maokai and alistar are fucking broken" It's not soloQ, off laners will probably have less farm than bot lane, especially if lane swaps. Marksmen are absurdly strong and regular bruisers will only have their midgame window to beat them before they start melting in only a few hits, so full tanks are stronger. Maokai and Alistar happen to be viable full tank from the off lane. (I mean, obv. they're strong, but not strong enough to crowd out all bruisers even when they're both banned.) | ||
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