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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
August 15 2014 13:15 GMT
#381
Shen and J4 are both rather useless vs an ADC with good positioning, especially with Trist W.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 15 2014 13:15 GMT
#382
they were 7k ahead like 5 minutes ago when they pushed bot tier 2 lol

sad
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
August 15 2014 13:15 GMT
#383
On August 15 2014 22:14 nafta wrote:
Bt is much stronger than bork unless you need the active now.

is it? its 55ad more but botrk gives 40%as and 8% hp tbh i would like to see some math
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
August 15 2014 13:16 GMT
#384
Oh 0K. Didn't notice the exhaust, I only saw Kass diving 1v3 then running away, Zhonya's (because he somehow hadn't died yet x) ) and then die.

Fnatic could do much better if fights where full-on initiations/dives but looks like Irelia doesn't believe in trying to assassinate a squishy (and against knock-backs and past midgame I agree) so they have these weird extended fights with a lot of running and little pew-pew-ing, and Tristana is so superior to Vayne in these when both have items...
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 13:20:32
August 15 2014 13:18 GMT
#385
On one hand they didn't need even need the Locket, hue.
On the other hand wtf so close, how did he know he wouldn't need locket to keep him alive?

v case in point, without the BT shield here, he'd have died.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 15 2014 13:19 GMT
#386
On August 15 2014 22:15 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 22:14 nafta wrote:
Bt is much stronger than bork unless you need the active now.

is it? its 55ad more but botrk gives 40%as and 8% hp tbh i would like to see some math

Damage wise it is worse but it gives you a lot of sustain for syndra poke and a small hp buffer to not get bopped.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
August 15 2014 13:21 GMT
#387
Vayne ironically feels useless in the late game cause you can't get within 550 range of that team without dying instantly
Platinum Support GOD
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
August 15 2014 13:22 GMT
#388
ROC using the Royal Club strats against FNC.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 15 2014 13:23 GMT
#389
On August 15 2014 22:21 MattBarry wrote:
Vayne ironically feels useless in the late game cause you can't get within 550 range of that team without dying instantly


why is it ironic? Vayne is supposed to be strong in midgame and especially in duelling situations, not at tower pushing.
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 13:25:58
August 15 2014 13:23 GMT
#390
Tbh my view on it is that more than anything (game plan, map movement, picks, etc.) it's actually the Vayne pick, and the draft in general, that's the cause of Fnatic's loss this game.
I guess the turnaround was the 5-for-1 fight near bot inner against a baron'd up Fnatic?

Edit: Vayne's supposed to be super good lategame because even against huge tanks she still has good damage all game long, she's very slippery if you can't 100-0 her with all the dashes and the stealth attacked to it, and it makes her very good at clean-up (also her passive) so long that you can protect her.
But these teamfights don't work this way atm, especially with long-range carries like Kog and Trist being prominent.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 13:27:15
August 15 2014 13:25 GMT
#391
The draft was always going to get outscaled, that loss at bot pretty much tipped it back towards roccat. Shen/J4 can't threaten trist anymore and vayne cant enter fights without getting popped by kassadin alone, let alone irelia and kha.
Fnatic had their timing during that massive kass/trist lull (especially because overpow stopped farming) but that fight at bot where xpeke was oom and fnatic wasn't sure if they wanted to commit caused them to miss it
Glorious SEA doto
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 15 2014 13:25 GMT
#392
rekkles still botrk active and heal. roflmao
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 15 2014 13:26 GMT
#393
Lol rekkles did the classic mistake of not expecting the crit and not using heal.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 15 2014 13:26 GMT
#394
Poll: Recommend Roccat vs Fnatic Game 4?

Yes (4)
 
57%

No (1)
 
14%

If you have time for it. (2)
 
29%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Roccat vs Fnatic Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time for it.



Time to see final game come down to jungle invade early first blood win by Fnatic
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 15 2014 13:26 GMT
#395
It's not just because of J4/Shen. Syndra's late game is also a bit meh, to be honest.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 13:27:17
August 15 2014 13:26 GMT
#396
Would have laughed so hard if roccat lost because celaver didnt press mercurial there
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 15 2014 13:26 GMT
#397
ONE TO GO ROCCAT, ONE TO GO !
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
August 15 2014 13:27 GMT
#398
On August 15 2014 22:25 Fusilero wrote:
The draft was always going to get outscaled, that loss at bot pretty much tipped it back towards roccat. Shen/J4 can't threaten trist anymore and vayne cant enter fights without getting popped by kassadin alone, let alone irelia and kha.
Fnatic had their timing but that fight at bot where xpeke was oom and fnatic wasn't sure if they wanted to commit caused them to miss it


I dont think they ever wanted to 5v5. Soaz was just to weak to splitpush so they tried to 5v5, knowing they get outscaled.
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
August 15 2014 13:27 GMT
#399
as long as roccat won't get counterpicked too hard and have a ok team comp they have good chances to win.
Science>Mechanics
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 13:30:09
August 15 2014 13:29 GMT
#400
Overpow/Xasus vs Pawn/Looper
Overpow/Xasus vs Dade/Acorn
Overpow/Xasus vs Cool/Gogoing
Celevar vs Deft, Imp, Sneaky or Namei

Worlds will be glorious.

Actually, this game they not only had great draft, but also a very good early game strat. Sadly, I doubt they can get another one (unless they saved some super fuckin great strat for the last match).
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
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