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On January 18 2014 09:15 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 09:14 Alaric wrote:On January 18 2014 09:12 Alaric wrote:On January 18 2014 09:11 Alaric wrote:On January 18 2014 09:08 Alaric wrote:On January 18 2014 09:06 Alaric wrote: XDG vs C9 start
Lane swap, Zuna starts red and gets his blue stolen by C9's duo+jungler. Sid on WW takes his team's wraiths since he won't be able to farm 1v2, then the golems, as C9 go 3 top again to take a tower. Not very original, eh? Teams still don't deal with it, sigh. Zuna goes bot too, but they fail to take the tower along with C9. Annie recalls to defend top as WW goes there too, and XDG gets the bot tower on the next wave. Zuna fails a gank mid, and Meteos counterganks, both Gragas and Elise flashes are down, while Yasuo and Vi still have theirs. Big advantage C9 on the gank pressure now. 6:45 Meteos' Vi goes top to gank Warwick, who flashes the Q. However, against the MS buff from Shyvana and all the flashes and dashes and Yasuo coming up from mid, he dies for first blood. 1k gold lead for C9 now as Gragas has barely half Yasuo's farm. 9:15 WW teleports mid as Gragas tries to initiate a gank with his ult but... NOPE Wind Wall. Zero cast time OP. WW walks back to top. 10:30 Vi ganks Zuna's Elise mid. He dodges Vi's ult with Rappel then flashes under the tower and survives the attempt. 12:20 C9 takes the first dragon abusing a recall timing, 2k gold lead now.
Abusing a recall + blue buff timing. That is to say, gragas + elise were taking blue buff, and Cloud 9 timed it accordingly.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Zuna is still wildcard. C9 are playing like boa. Vulcun will be smothered soon this way.
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I think XD.GG got trolled harder by darien than anybody else.
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On January 18 2014 09:16 Chicane wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 18 2014 09:10 AsnSensation wrote: So someone listed all the NA Mids earlier except for scarra and said they're all better than Hai.... dat mancloud 50 to 25 cs I guess you didn't know that different matchups favor certain champions in terms of farming at different points in the game. There are so many factors, on top of jungler influence or whatever other players might get mixed up in the matchup. And on top of all of that it's a CS lead in just one game. Why are you trying to say anything definitive about it? I'm not even agreeing or disagreeing with what you're saying with Hai, but it is so ridiculous to jump to conclusions this early over such an insignificant thing with so many factors. It makes me wonder if you even watch much LoL. For example now the cs is 86-97. That's not a big difference at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mancloud has more by the end. Would that make Mancloud better at that point?
Chill out I just thought it was funny that people honestly believe the midlaner of the team that went 25-3 is worse than 6/7 of the rest.
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On January 18 2014 09:16 Itsmedudeman wrote: I think XD.GG got trolled harder by darien than anybody else. hahahaha
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you cant just take russian strategies they dont work for other people!
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C9's objective control is on another level. Until other teams figure this out, C9 is going to continue to be dominant.
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On January 18 2014 09:17 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 09:16 Chicane wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 18 2014 09:10 AsnSensation wrote: So someone listed all the NA Mids earlier except for scarra and said they're all better than Hai.... dat mancloud 50 to 25 cs I guess you didn't know that different matchups favor certain champions in terms of farming at different points in the game. There are so many factors, on top of jungler influence or whatever other players might get mixed up in the matchup. And on top of all of that it's a CS lead in just one game. Why are you trying to say anything definitive about it? I'm not even agreeing or disagreeing with what you're saying with Hai, but it is so ridiculous to jump to conclusions this early over such an insignificant thing with so many factors. It makes me wonder if you even watch much LoL. For example now the cs is 86-97. That's not a big difference at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mancloud has more by the end. Would that make Mancloud better at that point? Chill out I just thought it was funny that people honestly believe the midlaner of the team that went 25-3 is worse than 6/7 of the rest.
No need to say chill out, I'm just legitimately confused what your logical thought process was there. It seemed completely off that I was having trouble processing it. In any case I guess you don't have much to say about it so I guess you were just making a random remark.
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OK I am pretty sure Zuna got out of that gank at ~11 minutes due to Yasuo's R bug.
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On January 18 2014 09:15 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 09:14 Alaric wrote:On January 18 2014 09:12 Alaric wrote:On January 18 2014 09:11 Alaric wrote:On January 18 2014 09:08 Alaric wrote:On January 18 2014 09:06 Alaric wrote: XDG vs C9 start
Lane swap, Zuna starts red and gets his blue stolen by C9's duo+jungler. Sid on WW takes his team's wraiths since he won't be able to farm 1v2, then the golems, as C9 go 3 top again to take a tower. Not very original, eh? Teams still don't deal with it, sigh. Zuna goes bot too, but they fail to take the tower along with C9. Annie recalls to defend top as WW goes there too, and XDG gets the bot tower on the next wave. Zuna fails a gank mid, and Meteos counterganks, both Gragas and Elise flashes are down, while Yasuo and Vi still have theirs. Big advantage C9 on the gank pressure now. 6:45 Meteos' Vi goes top to gank Warwick, who flashes the Q. However, against the MS buff from Shyvana and all the flashes and dashes and Yasuo coming up from mid, he dies for first blood. 1k gold lead for C9 now as Gragas has barely half Yasuo's farm. 9:15 WW teleports mid as Gragas tries to initiate a gank with his ult but... NOPE Wind Wall. Zero cast time OP. WW walks back to top. 10:30 Vi ganks Zuna's Elise mid. He dodges Vi's ult with Rappel then flashes under the tower and survives the attempt. 12:20 C9 takes the first dragon abusing a recall timing, 2k gold lead now. 13:30 Vi ganks WW again under his inner tower, and the combo with Shyvana's ult is enough to kill him through his ult, used way too late to save him. Shyvana then kills the tower, 3k gold lead C9. 15:40 C9 tries to take the outer bot tower? WW teleports behind them, XDG's botlane initiates, and double kill. There's nothing to capitalise on however.
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On January 18 2014 09:17 Amethyst21 wrote: C9's objective control is on another level. Until other teams figure this out, C9 is going to continue to be dominant.
I was thinking this, but then they lost blue buff to XDG in a pretty decent way. Gragas forced yasuo out who was farming wolves. Basically, XDGG definitely had better objective control there.
Also, I don't think Xmithie + bloodwater have lost a lane yet. They are out laning their opponents so far. Pretty surprising + promising. Definitely better than Zuna + bloodwater lane.
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I still don't understand how it makes sense for cait e's movement to be stopped by stuns
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On January 18 2014 09:20 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 09:16 Chicane wrote:On January 18 2014 09:10 AsnSensation wrote: So someone listed all the NA Mids earlier except for scarra and said they're all better than Hai.... dat mancloud 50 to 25 cs I guess you didn't know that different matchups favor certain champions in terms of farming at different points in the game. There are so many factors, on top of jungler influence or whatever other players might get mixed up in the matchup. And on top of all of that it's a CS lead in just one game. Why are you trying to say anything definitive about it? I'm not even agreeing or disagreeing with what you're saying with Hai, but it is so ridiculous to jump to conclusions this early over such an insignificant thing with so many factors. It makes me wonder if you even watch much LoL. For example now the cs is 86-97. That's not a big difference at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mancloud has more by the end. Would that make Mancloud better at that point? Btw the posy only put hai at #3 which isn't really that bad Its not stupid to think bjergsen and mancloud are better. Some days hai plays like a #1 And some days like a 3. The author listed his inconsistency as his main weakness.
Ya fair enough, I agree... but I was just really confused by his logic which was why I said all of that. I was trying to break it down to see how he would try to justify his logic, but it sounded like just a random comment he made.
In any case no big deal. It happens, and I think I might accidentally be making it look like a big deal, when in the end I just wanted to know what he was thinking.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
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Meteos and Balls just 2v4 LOL
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On January 18 2014 09:20 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 09:17 Amethyst21 wrote: C9's objective control is on another level. Until other teams figure this out, C9 is going to continue to be dominant. I was thinking this, but then they lost blue buff to XDG in a pretty decent way. Gragas forced yasuo out who was farming wolves. Basically, XDGG definitely had better objective control there. Also, I don't think Xmithie + bloodwater have lost a lane yet. They are out laning their opponents so far. Pretty surprising + promising. Definitely better than Zuna + bloodwater lane.
Bloodwater such a god. Xmithie is pretty impressive though. As much as I wanted it to be a train-wreck it definitely hasn't been.
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