On January 19 2014 07:57 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 07:51 Swords wrote:On January 19 2014 07:44 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:37 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:31 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:21 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:18 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 07:16 Volband wrote:On January 19 2014 07:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
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Rengar? Fotm? For toplane?
When?
You are right, it was mainly Europe, divided with the jungle role. Still, he played him, and sadly, I witnessed that. Seriously, how can anyone call him a good top laner? I respect a lot of athletes even if I hate them with all my guts, but he is just plain and simply bad. I'm not even sure how could this be a topic for arguement. Europe? Rengar? Fotm? When? It was picked by hyrqbot in jungle once in Spring, also once by Darien just to go full ham and feed. Somehow my memory don't remember other stuff, even Mimer wasn't playing it. What, europe sucked on him in the summer split. Also, you said Kiwikid is fun to watch, which is even worse, than calling him good, or decent, or not terrible. Darien is fun to watch. Xpeke is fun to watch. WildTutle is fun to watch. Kiwikid failing with every fotm (like Singed or Zac) is not fun to watch, especially when he laughs all the time, like he has some other irl issues. http://lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/Europe/Season_3/Picks_and_Bans/Summer_SeasonWhere is Rengar? 1 pick as i said. Kiwi was carrying Dignitas HUGE in Spring Split. Dignitas were falling, he was falling as well but i barely can remind games where he did lose 1v1 or feed without enemies's ganking him permanently. Can't say I remember much about Dig fom the spring split, but saying he was only falling because the team was falling is just ridiculous. He managed to die the most out of everyone in every LCS while playing champs like Singed, Zac, and occasionally - to put this right - Aatrox. How the hell could you even lose games with zac back then? Full hp 0-24, 0 mana, of course he did not went 0-10 in lane, he actually had to do stuff like teamfight, or landing abilities, and that's when his inability to play decent showed. In summer he never carried anyone, and he was always inferior compared to the enemy toplaners. (Who knows, maybe he was better than Kris and Vileroze, but that's not something to brag about) He's mediocore, and if you think he's fun to watch, then compare him to Sping split Voyboy. Edit: Kiwi walks back to stun 2 people instead of waiting them to get in range so he doesn't lose momentum. Yeah, that is him. Whatever, Dig deserves him, hope he stays there forever. Dude, 70% of lanes in Summer were played as 2v1. How can you blame toplaner for feeding if his team is losing? He can't carry on fucking Zac, he was op but op for single lane, not for carrying the game. And about Voyboy. Saintvicious was carrying Curse hard in Spring and they were 19-9. Dignitas were 13-15 and then suddenly Voyboy failed against Kiwikid in playoffs to throw his team out of LCS. Ok. I was talking about the fun to watch now, but if you really said Kiwikid is/was betetr than Voy, then I really can't reply to that. People can argue that I should not hate him THAT much, but no one defends him, because even the most hardcore Dig fans know he's shit. I wish you one thing, and one thing only. May Kiwikid be always part of one of your favourite teams. Always. Even when Korean teams are on his doorstep to convicne him "pls, play terible in our team!", he shall say "no, I'm missing skillshots and showing absolutely 0 game understanding HERE. Sorry." + Show Spoiler +Nah, I take it back. No one deserves that. No one. I don't really like Kiwi. I'm a Dig fan, and I don't think he should be on the team, but your irrational hatred of him down to the fact "he smiles" is just bizarre. He was a great singed/elise player last spring split, essentially carrying Dig (and his Singed TP plays were fun to watch. Those champs got nerfed, and he failed to adjust. Dig has made a mistake to keep him around, but it's not like he's the worst player in history or something. There have been lots of League players that fall apart when their champion pools get nerfed. He was feeding with Singed when he was not nerfed. He was bad with Zac when he was op as hell. He tried new stuff (like that Aatrox) and failed miserably. Meanwhile there were toplaners like Zion who had Riven banned against him at a time when Riven wasn't fotm, and no one played him competitively in the west. The only reason Kiwi could get away with being bad, is that Zac had such a great utility, Singed was a no-brainer "run at them screaming yolo" and Elise was broken. Also, his Elise was more than unimpressive in the summer split, despite Elise was at her peak.
That's just not true though, he was regularly pulling a positive KDA in the spring split.
Week 2: 2/3/8 Singed, 4/2/3 Singed, 1/0/2 Singed,
Week 3: 3/4/13 Singed
Week 4: 1/3/7 Singed, 6/1/2 Elise, 2/0/2 Elise, 5/0/6 Elise
Week 5: 3/4/1 Rekenton, 2/1/5 Elise, 3/3/8 Shen
I can keep going with his stats if you like, but the facts are he was playing very competently during the spring split - he wasn't feeding with Singed, and he was nearly unstoppable on Elise.
I'm not trying to argue he's a good player, but he was fine in the spring split, his champion pool was limited, got nerfed, they expected him to be able to find new champs to play, he couldn't and now is pretty worthless.
EDIT: I'm taking way too long arguing this, the current game is silly.
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