• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:02
CET 01:02
KST 09:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational12SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1173 users

[EU LCS] S4 Spring Week 1 - Page 98

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 96 97 98 99 100 137 Next
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 16 2014 14:03 GMT
#1941
On January 16 2014 22:57 Silvanel wrote:
That why i am not offended by this. Words are insulting only if You make them that why.

Anyway: Why all ROCCAT matches are so late? My work starts at 7:00......

I agree, it's like Laguz getting offended when you call them sub-humans, or Beorc getting offended when they are called humans.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
January 16 2014 15:19 GMT
#1942
Alliance is interesting to watch. Can they pull themselfes out of their misery or was it just the start of a journey threw hell.
Science>Mechanics
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 15:32:56
January 16 2014 15:32 GMT
#1943
"Polaks" in Russian language is just name of Polish nation basically.
But i guess, it's same to example which i will list next.

Sometimes, Ukranians say about Russians "moskali", which is basically insult, i dunno why. Never took it as offense.
It's same as we say about Ukranians in joke that they're "saloedy", which is joke about Ukraine and their love to lard.
Same here.

HOPE ALLIANCE WILL WIN TONIGHT ANYWAY.
#hwaiting
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 16 2014 15:59 GMT
#1944
I was unable to watch any games unfortunately. Are Alliance really that bad?
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 16:05:16
January 16 2014 16:04 GMT
#1945
On January 17 2014 00:59 UmberBane wrote:
I was unable to watch any games unfortunately. Are Alliance really that bad?


No team synergy and no good plays. Weird item choices sometimes.
Science>Mechanics
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 16 2014 16:12 GMT
#1946
If it means anything, MonteCristo and Thorin both maintain faith in Alliance and that they'll end up in the top 4. This is simply a (big) growing pains phase for the team.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22068 Posts
January 16 2014 16:14 GMT
#1947
On January 17 2014 01:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
If it means anything, MonteCristo and Thorin both maintain faith in Alliance and that they'll end up in the top 4. This is simply a (big) growing pains phase for the team.

Well I doubt anyone would publicly state they lost faith after 2 days of play. Thats sure to destroy what little team moral remains :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 16 2014 16:27 GMT
#1948
I stand by froggen being overrrated. He maintains a good kda but I feel like his greed (afk farming, won't die even if it helps the team) hold back any potential he has to be a dominant player. It's the froggen show or gtfo.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 16 2014 16:31 GMT
#1949
On January 17 2014 01:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
If it means anything, MonteCristo and Thorin both maintain faith in Alliance and that they'll end up in the top 4. This is simply a (big) growing pains phase for the team.




well, their laning phase was generally decent.

The thing that lost them the games were stupid calls and lack of teamfighting ability.
The stupid calls were either a result of lack of practice together or lack of an strategically intelligent player.

One is fixed easily, the other not.


It would also help if Froggen would lane against Faker/Ryu/Dade (well, unless Faker breaks him again) a bunch of times to deflate that ego.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 16 2014 16:36 GMT
#1950
On January 17 2014 01:31 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 01:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
If it means anything, MonteCristo and Thorin both maintain faith in Alliance and that they'll end up in the top 4. This is simply a (big) growing pains phase for the team.




well, their laning phase was generally decent.

The thing that lost them the games were stupid calls and lack of teamfighting ability.
The stupid calls were either a result of lack of practice together or lack of an strategically intelligent player.

One is fixed easily, the other not.


It would also help if Froggen would lane against Faker/Ryu/Dade (well, unless Faker breaks him again) a bunch of times to deflate that ego.



Losing top inner turret because he wanted to farm in their first game highlights froggen's issues. Maybe that extra 200g makes a difference if he ever landed a good cask.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 16:46:01
January 16 2014 16:44 GMT
#1951
On January 17 2014 01:31 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 01:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
If it means anything, MonteCristo and Thorin both maintain faith in Alliance and that they'll end up in the top 4. This is simply a (big) growing pains phase for the team.




well, their laning phase was generally decent.

The thing that lost them the games were stupid calls and lack of teamfighting ability.
The stupid calls were either a result of lack of practice together or lack of an strategically intelligent player.

One is fixed easily, the other not.


It would also help if Froggen would lane against Faker/Ryu/Dade (well, unless Faker breaks him again) a bunch of times to deflate that ego.

They practised a ton. Had even trouble always finding scrim partners because they were basically scrimming all the time. Also most of the time they just stomped opponents in those scrims from what you hear. So that easy fix is clearly not there.

Idk, maybe their glaring weakness in rotations and calls was not revealed in scrims because they usually won early and rarely had to play an even mid/late game? Like in the games vs Dignitas.

In any case they are in trouble imo. Not because they went 0-3, but because of how they played. On the other hand, LD was able to fix their bad calls mid season after Mithy joined.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 16:45:49
January 16 2014 16:45 GMT
#1952
On January 17 2014 01:04 TitusVI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 00:59 UmberBane wrote:
I was unable to watch any games unfortunately. Are Alliance really that bad?


No team synergy and no good plays. Weird item choices sometimes.


To be honest, there were some good plays with almost everything made by Shook.
But synergy, eh. *sigh*

To be honest, i will be ok with [A] going 0-4 this week.
This have to be a signal for everyone, that there is big work to do and no red carpet to first place.

They will recover, i believe.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 17:00:22
January 16 2014 16:59 GMT
#1953
once amazing and youngbuck get their teamplay together and maybe amazing focuses on bot lane a bit more, especially when dragon is up, they will crush everyone, absolutely everyone. I believe

when CW get a little bit of room to play with they just play brilliant, their loss against GG was a suffocating one, they were pushed into all towers from minute5 onwards and couldnt do any of their stuff, if they pick accordingly they'll be just fine and won't lose again
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 16 2014 17:01 GMT
#1954
On January 17 2014 01:44 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 01:31 LaNague wrote:
On January 17 2014 01:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
If it means anything, MonteCristo and Thorin both maintain faith in Alliance and that they'll end up in the top 4. This is simply a (big) growing pains phase for the team.




well, their laning phase was generally decent.

The thing that lost them the games were stupid calls and lack of teamfighting ability.
The stupid calls were either a result of lack of practice together or lack of an strategically intelligent player.

One is fixed easily, the other not.


It would also help if Froggen would lane against Faker/Ryu/Dade (well, unless Faker breaks him again) a bunch of times to deflate that ego.

They practised a ton. Had even trouble always finding scrim partners because they were basically scrimming all the time. Also most of the time they just stomped opponents in those scrims from what you hear. So that easy fix is clearly not there.

Idk, maybe their glaring weakness in rotations and calls was not revealed in scrims because they usually won early and rarely had to play an even mid/late game? Like in the games vs Dignitas.

In any case they are in trouble imo. Not because they went 0-3, but because of how they played. On the other hand, LD was able to fix their bad calls mid season after Mithy joined.

To be fair with LD I can't remember which player (I think it was dexter when talking about lemondogs on his stream) mithy didn't actually impact their shotcalling that much. As much as it was getting rid of failer who was being completely toxic for the team again.
I don't think alliance needs roster changes but that being said I'd forgive collective full retard if it wasn't for individually they're all still feeling incredibly eeeh which is more of a concern.
Glorious SEA doto
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 17:08:33
January 16 2014 17:07 GMT
#1955
On January 17 2014 02:01 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 01:44 Redox wrote:
On January 17 2014 01:31 LaNague wrote:
On January 17 2014 01:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
If it means anything, MonteCristo and Thorin both maintain faith in Alliance and that they'll end up in the top 4. This is simply a (big) growing pains phase for the team.




well, their laning phase was generally decent.

The thing that lost them the games were stupid calls and lack of teamfighting ability.
The stupid calls were either a result of lack of practice together or lack of an strategically intelligent player.

One is fixed easily, the other not.


It would also help if Froggen would lane against Faker/Ryu/Dade (well, unless Faker breaks him again) a bunch of times to deflate that ego.

They practised a ton. Had even trouble always finding scrim partners because they were basically scrimming all the time. Also most of the time they just stomped opponents in those scrims from what you hear. So that easy fix is clearly not there.

Idk, maybe their glaring weakness in rotations and calls was not revealed in scrims because they usually won early and rarely had to play an even mid/late game? Like in the games vs Dignitas.

In any case they are in trouble imo. Not because they went 0-3, but because of how they played. On the other hand, LD was able to fix their bad calls mid season after Mithy joined.

To be fair with LD I can't remember which player (I think it was dexter when talking about lemondogs on his stream) mithy didn't actually impact their shotcalling that much. As much as it was getting rid of failer who was being completely toxic for the team again.
I don't think alliance needs roster changes but that being said I'd forgive collective full retard if it wasn't for individually they're all still feeling incredibly eeeh which is more of a concern.


Roster changes after 3 games? :D Don't think they will change roster till Worlds. It will be ridiculous and Froggen knows it.
[A] lost 3 games in rotations. They consistently outplaying opponents in laning phase, taking first objective and then suddenly fall like a card house. Only Tabzz and Nyph lost slightly against SHC in early phase.

Mithy changed LD in general. He was basically playing coach, no less. Taking team from 6-8 to 18-10, 2nd place in split and 3-5 at Worlds is brilliant.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9163 Posts
January 16 2014 17:33 GMT
#1956
On January 17 2014 01:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
If it means anything, MonteCristo and Thorin both maintain faith in Alliance and that they'll end up in the top 4. This is simply a (big) growing pains phase for the team.

It doesn't, listening to Thorin gave me the distinct impression that he never saw KMT or CW play before this week and his whole argument for placing Alliance and Millenium in top 4 was based on that. That doesn't mean the conclusion is necessarily wrong, just the way it was reached. You might as well cite the opinions of 2 regulars from this thread and they would probably be more aware of what they're talking about.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 17:39:54
January 16 2014 17:38 GMT
#1957
On January 17 2014 02:33 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 01:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
If it means anything, MonteCristo and Thorin both maintain faith in Alliance and that they'll end up in the top 4. This is simply a (big) growing pains phase for the team.

It doesn't, listening to Thorin gave me the distinct impression that he never saw KMT or CW play before this week and his whole argument for placing Alliance and Millenium in top 4 was based on that. That doesn't mean the conclusion is necessarily wrong, just the way it was reached. You might as well cite the opinions of 2 regulars from this thread and they would probably be more aware of what they're talking about.


Probably's an understatement.

I really enjoy thorin's interviews. I think his read if off this time.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 17:57:15
January 16 2014 17:56 GMT
#1958
On January 17 2014 02:38 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2014 02:33 Dan HH wrote:
On January 17 2014 01:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
If it means anything, MonteCristo and Thorin both maintain faith in Alliance and that they'll end up in the top 4. This is simply a (big) growing pains phase for the team.

It doesn't, listening to Thorin gave me the distinct impression that he never saw KMT or CW play before this week and his whole argument for placing Alliance and Millenium in top 4 was based on that. That doesn't mean the conclusion is necessarily wrong, just the way it was reached. You might as well cite the opinions of 2 regulars from this thread and they would probably be more aware of what they're talking about.


Probably's an understatement.

I really enjoy thorin's interviews. I think his read if off this time.

Of course Thorin doesnt know much about the game and I dont know why people would expect him to. He is just doing interviews, where players are usually reminiscing about stuff that happened 2 seasons ago.
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22068 Posts
January 16 2014 18:04 GMT
#1959
The burns, Poor Alliance :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 18:05:40
January 16 2014 18:05 GMT
#1960
I´m with Thorin on this. I dont think Froggen is overrated he just has to adapt and stop playing this ultra safe farm style. I think Tabz and Nyph gonna improve. Heck they played like 1 week together ?
Wickd looked actually strong in lane. It was just the builds that didnt work for tfs.
Prev 1 96 97 98 99 100 137 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Rongyi Cup S3 - Group D
CranKy Ducklings2
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft434
Ketroc 66
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 695
Shuttle 53
NaDa 19
Noble 9
Dota 2
syndereN669
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 502
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1361
minikerr32
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1816
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor232
Other Games
tarik_tv24112
gofns10723
summit1g5682
Liquid`RaSZi2586
FrodaN1556
fl0m877
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2025
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 88
• davetesta41
• musti20045 33
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 40
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2907
League of Legends
• Doublelift5619
• TFBlade1369
• Scarra1112
Other Games
• imaqtpie2247
• Shiphtur311
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
10h 58m
Wardi Open
13h 58m
Monday Night Weeklies
16h 58m
OSC
23h 58m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
RongYI Cup
1d 10h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
RongYI Cup
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-24
OSC Championship Season 13
Tektek Cup #1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Proleague 2026-01-25
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.