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On April 27 2013 08:34 Amethyst21 wrote: As bad as Dig was in g1, GGU is far worse here in g2 - all you had to do was not get too far behind for the lategame comp....and then you lost 2 turrets to splitpush Karthus
They actually lost 3 to Karth lol.
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On April 27 2013 08:33 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 08:32 Chrispy wrote: That iceborn gauntlet paying off soooo much that fight. obv trash item Having 7k items at 20min is pretty useful. You don't think that IE + PD would have done more, though?
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On April 27 2013 08:34 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 08:33 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 27 2013 08:32 Chrispy wrote: That iceborn gauntlet paying off soooo much that fight. obv trash item Having 7k items at 20min is pretty useful. You don't think that IE + PD would have done more, though?
If you're team is 4v5ing while Karthus pushes bottom, no.
I don't think Dig could've made that play if qtpie went any other build.
GGU would've just 4v5 killed them at baron.
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Who needs bulwark vs fed karthus/nasus/renek/zyra/ez.LOL
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Still no sign of Aegis on GGU -_-. They will all get destroyed by Karthus in team fight and Ez with this build, you can't run!!
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On April 27 2013 08:36 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 08:34 Shikyo wrote:On April 27 2013 08:33 NeoIllusions wrote:On April 27 2013 08:32 Chrispy wrote: That iceborn gauntlet paying off soooo much that fight. obv trash item Having 7k items at 20min is pretty useful. You don't think that IE + PD would have done more, though? If you're team is 4v5ing while Karthus pushes bottom, no. I don't think Dig could've made that play if qtpie went any other build. GGU would've just 4v5 killed them at baron. Hmm probably not that exact play, yeah... They do different things indeed.
Dignitas bottom lane has looked incredible both of these games. Even the game they got stomped it wasn't their fault at all. Really sad neither of them is going to all-stars.
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elder lizard+karthus = pretty fast baron
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Has karthus lost a game in na lcs?After both last games it seems like people have forgotten how to play vs him.
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On April 27 2013 08:38 nafta wrote: Has karthus lost a game in na lcs?After both last games it seems like people have forgotten how to play vs him. Not sure, but from what I've seen in OGN Karthus is basically permaban there. I wonder why western teams don't play as him more.
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I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-. Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv.
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We're going to start seeing a helluva lot of IBG/Elder Lizard/Muramana/Lucidity Boots Ez now, aren't we?
On April 27 2013 08:40 Caphe wrote: I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-. Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv. The win rates for blue side aren't that skewed. It's a factor, but team comp, early game, etc., are all more important.
I think the win rate differential is...55-45ish for blue in LCS?
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On April 27 2013 08:40 Lord Tolkien wrote: We're going to start seeing a helluva lot of IBG/Elder Lizard/Muramana/Lucidity Boots Ez now, aren't we?
That's good.In solo q people lack the coordination to abuse the kiting and you can just farm him as most ad-s in lane.
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On April 27 2013 08:39 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 08:38 nafta wrote: Has karthus lost a game in na lcs?After both last games it seems like people have forgotten how to play vs him. Not sure, but from what I've seen in OGN Karthus is basically permaban there. I wonder why western teams don't play as him more. The OGN teams are more coordination so he's a scarier pick. Move coordinated tower dives that benefit from having Requiem. He's still strong if you are going to farm to late game, but that's only part of the reason he's picked.
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On April 27 2013 08:40 Caphe wrote: I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-. Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv.
Scarra would've lost on purple side too with that TF play.
And GGU would've lost on dominion with that teamcomp
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On April 27 2013 08:40 Lord Tolkien wrote:We're going to start seeing a helluva lot of IBG/Elder Lizard/Muramana/Lucidity Boots Ez now, aren't we? Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 08:40 Caphe wrote: I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-. Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv. The win rates for blue side aren't that skewed. It's a factor, but team comp, early game, etc., are all more important. I think the win rate differential is...55-45ish for blue in LCS? Already started in soloQ before this game. People catch on new trend much faster nowadays, and this annoying Ez wasn't even new.
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Dignitas is first pick now -> let's hope they won't ban TF
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On April 27 2013 08:40 Caphe wrote: I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-. Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv.
The big thing is that Jintae is really bad. scarra can outlane him any day (which just tells you how awful Jintae is). qtpie+patoy is probably the best bot lane combo during lane phase in NA and should beat Mashme+Daydreamin every game.
Game 1 GGU did a good lane swap that Dignitas didn't respond well to. In Game 2 I think GGU should've swapped up lanes so that they could have Mashme+Daydreamin shut down scarra.
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On April 27 2013 08:40 Lord Tolkien wrote:We're going to start seeing a helluva lot of IBG/Elder Lizard/Muramana/Lucidity Boots Ez now, aren't we? Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 08:40 Caphe wrote: I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-. Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv. The win rates for blue side aren't that skewed. It's a factor, but team comp, early game, etc., are all more important. I think the win rate differential is...55-45ish for blue in LCS? It is a large factor in OGN. More like 65-35 in Korea. Chinese scene is similar with Korea, thats why when iG pulled a victory against WE in SWL final, people was going crazy about it.
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On April 27 2013 08:42 Caphe wrote: Already started in soloQ before this game. People catch on new trend much faster nowadays, and this annoying Ez wasn't even new. Has it now? LCS+finals have eaten away all my LoL time the past two weeks.
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On April 27 2013 08:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 08:42 Caphe wrote: Already started in soloQ before this game. People catch on new trend much faster nowadays, and this annoying Ez wasn't even new. Has it now? LCS+finals have eaten away all my LoL time the past two weeks.  Yep. Saw it on some pro streams and experience it myself with my gold level soloQ as well .
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