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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 26 2013 23:34 GMT
#281
On April 27 2013 08:34 Amethyst21 wrote:
As bad as Dig was in g1, GGU is far worse here in g2 - all you had to do was not get too far behind for the lategame comp....and then you lost 2 turrets to splitpush Karthus


They actually lost 3 to Karth lol.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 26 2013 23:34 GMT
#282
On April 27 2013 08:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 08:32 Chrispy wrote:
That iceborn gauntlet paying off soooo much that fight.

obv trash item

Having 7k items at 20min is pretty useful. You don't think that IE + PD would have done more, though?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 23:36:33
April 26 2013 23:36 GMT
#283
On April 27 2013 08:34 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 08:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:32 Chrispy wrote:
That iceborn gauntlet paying off soooo much that fight.

obv trash item

Having 7k items at 20min is pretty useful. You don't think that IE + PD would have done more, though?


If you're team is 4v5ing while Karthus pushes bottom, no.

I don't think Dig could've made that play if qtpie went any other build.

GGU would've just 4v5 killed them at baron.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 26 2013 23:36 GMT
#284
Who needs bulwark vs fed karthus/nasus/renek/zyra/ez.LOL
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 26 2013 23:36 GMT
#285
Still no sign of Aegis on GGU -_-. They will all get destroyed by Karthus in team fight and Ez with this build, you can't run!!
Terran
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 23:38:12
April 26 2013 23:37 GMT
#286
On April 27 2013 08:36 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 08:34 Shikyo wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:33 NeoIllusions wrote:
On April 27 2013 08:32 Chrispy wrote:
That iceborn gauntlet paying off soooo much that fight.

obv trash item

Having 7k items at 20min is pretty useful. You don't think that IE + PD would have done more, though?


If you're team is 4v5ing while Karthus pushes bottom, no.

I don't think Dig could've made that play if qtpie went any other build.

GGU would've just 4v5 killed them at baron.

Hmm probably not that exact play, yeah... They do different things indeed.


Dignitas bottom lane has looked incredible both of these games. Even the game they got stomped it wasn't their fault at all. Really sad neither of them is going to all-stars.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 26 2013 23:38 GMT
#287
elder lizard+karthus = pretty fast baron
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 26 2013 23:38 GMT
#288
Has karthus lost a game in na lcs?After both last games it seems like people have forgotten how to play vs him.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 26 2013 23:39 GMT
#289
On April 27 2013 08:38 nafta wrote:
Has karthus lost a game in na lcs?After both last games it seems like people have forgotten how to play vs him.

Not sure, but from what I've seen in OGN Karthus is basically permaban there. I wonder why western teams don't play as him more.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 26 2013 23:40 GMT
#290
I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-.
Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv.
Terran
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 23:41:33
April 26 2013 23:40 GMT
#291
We're going to start seeing a helluva lot of IBG/Elder Lizard/Muramana/Lucidity Boots Ez now, aren't we?

On April 27 2013 08:40 Caphe wrote:
I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-.
Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv.

The win rates for blue side aren't that skewed. It's a factor, but team comp, early game, etc., are all more important.

I think the win rate differential is...55-45ish for blue in LCS?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 26 2013 23:41 GMT
#292
On April 27 2013 08:40 Lord Tolkien wrote:
We're going to start seeing a helluva lot of IBG/Elder Lizard/Muramana/Lucidity Boots Ez now, aren't we?


That's good.In solo q people lack the coordination to abuse the kiting and you can just farm him as most ad-s in lane.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 26 2013 23:41 GMT
#293
On April 27 2013 08:39 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 08:38 nafta wrote:
Has karthus lost a game in na lcs?After both last games it seems like people have forgotten how to play vs him.

Not sure, but from what I've seen in OGN Karthus is basically permaban there. I wonder why western teams don't play as him more.

The OGN teams are more coordination so he's a scarier pick. Move coordinated tower dives that benefit from having Requiem. He's still strong if you are going to farm to late game, but that's only part of the reason he's picked.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 26 2013 23:41 GMT
#294
On April 27 2013 08:40 Caphe wrote:
I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-.
Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv.


Scarra would've lost on purple side too with that TF play.

And GGU would've lost on dominion with that teamcomp
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 26 2013 23:42 GMT
#295
On April 27 2013 08:40 Lord Tolkien wrote:
We're going to start seeing a helluva lot of IBG/Elder Lizard/Muramana/Lucidity Boots Ez now, aren't we?

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 08:40 Caphe wrote:
I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-.
Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv.

The win rates for blue side aren't that skewed. It's a factor, but team comp, early game, etc., are all more important.

I think the win rate differential is...55-45ish for blue in LCS?

Already started in soloQ before this game. People catch on new trend much faster nowadays, and this annoying Ez wasn't even new.
Terran
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 26 2013 23:43 GMT
#296
Dignitas is first pick now -> let's hope they won't ban TF
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
April 26 2013 23:43 GMT
#297
On April 27 2013 08:40 Caphe wrote:
I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-.
Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv.


The big thing is that Jintae is really bad. scarra can outlane him any day (which just tells you how awful Jintae is). qtpie+patoy is probably the best bot lane combo during lane phase in NA and should beat Mashme+Daydreamin every game.

Game 1 GGU did a good lane swap that Dignitas didn't respond well to. In Game 2 I think GGU should've swapped up lanes so that they could have Mashme+Daydreamin shut down scarra.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 26 2013 23:44 GMT
#298
On April 27 2013 08:40 Lord Tolkien wrote:
We're going to start seeing a helluva lot of IBG/Elder Lizard/Muramana/Lucidity Boots Ez now, aren't we?

Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 08:40 Caphe wrote:
I have to admit NA is strange. While elsewhere in the world, BLUE side is OP. Both teams in this game lose their game on BLUE side -_-.
Not sure if NA is so next level or just bad they can play their Blue side adv.

The win rates for blue side aren't that skewed. It's a factor, but team comp, early game, etc., are all more important.

I think the win rate differential is...55-45ish for blue in LCS?

It is a large factor in OGN. More like 65-35 in Korea. Chinese scene is similar with Korea, thats why when iG pulled a victory against WE in SWL final, people was going crazy about it.
Terran
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 26 2013 23:44 GMT
#299
On April 27 2013 08:42 Caphe wrote:
Already started in soloQ before this game. People catch on new trend much faster nowadays, and this annoying Ez wasn't even new.

Has it now? LCS+finals have eaten away all my LoL time the past two weeks.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 26 2013 23:47 GMT
#300
On April 27 2013 08:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 08:42 Caphe wrote:
Already started in soloQ before this game. People catch on new trend much faster nowadays, and this annoying Ez wasn't even new.

Has it now? LCS+finals have eaten away all my LoL time the past two weeks.

Yep. Saw it on some pro streams and experience it myself with my gold level soloQ as well .
Terran
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