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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 29 2013 02:56 GMT
#2661
Fiora and Yi have resets as well, wonder why they're not considered OP as well ;S

You have to realize if Khazix leap didn't reset on kill he'd be legit bottom tier. The only nerf to functionality that I think would be ok is make it reset only 50% of base cooldown on assists.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 03:00:58
April 29 2013 02:56 GMT
#2662
On April 29 2013 11:55 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 11:52 Kuja900 wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:46 Takkara wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:44 Kuja900 wrote:
i really want ggu to take this just because of reginalds arrogant twitter post


Do you really think that was genuine arrogance? It's the playful showboating that TSM has ALWAYS done to ham it up a bit for the fans/viewers.


It really doesn;t matter I just think Reginald is an arrogant child who drags his team down and pitches blame. Having a one shot caller law methodology where whenever things start going bad the shotcaller (regi) goes basically mute is just hurting the team. For tsm to evolve and work around regi they need to have everybody talking and contributing (or at least most of them) like gambit. I really feel like wildturtle can contribute a lot in this regard, I love turtle he was a fantastic pickup for them that I think will pay huge long term dividends.


Every team does try and have everybody talk, but having one shot caller is almost always best. Multiple shot callers leads to misplays, there's no debating it. The best format is to have everybody feeding information to each other so that they can make the best individual decisions and their shot caller can make the best calls possible. Anything other than that and people are either under informed or being told to do conflicting things.

Also, prolly is annoying as fuck. Everything you say doesn't need to be accompanied by a weird face and attempted hilarious joke to show le peoples how cool you are.


Theres a subtitled gambit game (m5 at the time) on youtube and if you watch it you can tell there is no shotcaller on that team, they are all coming up with ideas as a unit. Tsm and a lot of north american teams when you see the cameras pan to their faces the mouths aren't moving. There isn't nearly enough communication in the na scene imo and I think its a big reason they are as behind as they are. In my opinion the one shot caller method is just easier but not better.
OMG you nasty gurl
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 29 2013 02:56 GMT
#2663
Zion isn't best Top NA but he's making a name for himself as top 3 or 5 for his position.
Still not sold on DMM though.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 29 2013 02:57 GMT
#2664
TSM

Bets it all

on Regi TF.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 29 2013 02:57 GMT
#2665
Oh man, the fate of TSM rest of Regi's TF play...this should be interesting.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
April 29 2013 02:58 GMT
#2666
On April 29 2013 11:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Zion isn't best Top NA but he's making a name for himself as top 3 or 5 for his position.
Still not sold on DMM though.

what is the top 5 then?
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 02:58:38
April 29 2013 02:58 GMT
#2667
Yay, its the same champions...again.

I hope Zionspartan chooses something random. He's making these games non-stale.

edit: and blitz is pretty cool huehue
Jaedong :3
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
April 29 2013 02:58 GMT
#2668
On April 29 2013 11:57 Shikyo wrote:
TSM

Bets it all

on Regi TF.


It's really win-win. Either TSM wins the tournament, or Reginald donates a lot to charity.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
April 29 2013 02:58 GMT
#2669
SHOW ME THE TRYN!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 29 2013 02:58 GMT
#2670
go GGU!
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-29 02:59:58
April 29 2013 02:58 GMT
#2671
On April 29 2013 11:57 Shikyo wrote:
TSM

Bets it all

on Regi TF.


That's what I wanted to say. That's a heck of a gamble.

EDIT: Also, oddly, blue side OP NA, red side OP EU. Apparently NA isn't "adapting to the game" and "learning to use the OP side" like EU. <rolleyes>
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
April 29 2013 02:58 GMT
#2672
Regi's TF, GGU win. The MVP for GGU winning is Regi

GGU.Regi
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
April 29 2013 02:59 GMT
#2673
[image loading]
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
April 29 2013 02:59 GMT
#2674
On April 29 2013 11:52 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 11:50 caelym wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:46 Shikyo wrote:
Wow TSM got an INCREDIBLE initation, and then...


They didn't retreat and sat in Karthus AoE for 5 seconds

On April 29 2013 11:45 Disengaged wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:44 Kuja900 wrote:
i really want ggu to take this just because of reginalds arrogant twitter post


What was it?

after ggu won yesterday "congratulations to ggu for second place"

It wasn't just Regi either. Their manager Jack also tweeted the same same. There's trashtalk, and then there's arrogance.


What's a statement like "There's trashtalk, and then there's arrogance" even supposed to mean? Which is supposed to be so much unforgivably worse? Or is it just a lil unnecessary stirring the drama pot from bored kids?

I thought it was a douchey, but funny, comment in keeping with TSM and Regi's uber confident attitude. Nobody on GGU was hurt by it lol.

Trashtalk to me is fun competitive banter. TSM and doublelift, imo, sometimes pushes it past the boundary of good-natured and just comes off as douchebags and assholes.
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
April 29 2013 02:59 GMT
#2675
Dyrus rumble, I think that was a mistake

Zion good repick on khaz i think, I give edge to GGU!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 29 2013 02:59 GMT
#2676
On April 29 2013 11:58 ExoFun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 11:56 NeoIllusions wrote:
Zion isn't best Top NA but he's making a name for himself as top 3 or 5 for his position.
Still not sold on DMM though.

what is the top 5 then?

Dyrus, Voy, MegaZero, Nickwu, Zion?
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 29 2013 02:59 GMT
#2677
Sounds like Jatt just had enough of Riv
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 29 2013 02:59 GMT
#2678
On April 29 2013 11:59 ExoFun wrote:
[image loading]



LOLOL
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
April 29 2013 02:59 GMT
#2679
On April 29 2013 11:56 Kuja900 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 11:55 LaM wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:52 Kuja900 wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:46 Takkara wrote:
On April 29 2013 11:44 Kuja900 wrote:
i really want ggu to take this just because of reginalds arrogant twitter post


Do you really think that was genuine arrogance? It's the playful showboating that TSM has ALWAYS done to ham it up a bit for the fans/viewers.


It really doesn;t matter I just think Reginald is an arrogant child who drags his team down and pitches blame. Having a one shot caller law methodology where whenever things start going bad the shotcaller (regi) goes basically mute is just hurting the team. For tsm to evolve and work around regi they need to have everybody talking and contributing (or at least most of them) like gambit. I really feel like wildturtle can contribute a lot in this regard, I love turtle he was a fantastic pickup for them that I think will pay huge long term dividends.


Every team does try and have everybody talk, but having one shot caller is almost always best. Multiple shot callers leads to misplays, there's no debating it. The best format is to have everybody feeding information to each other so that they can make the best individual decisions and their shot caller can make the best calls possible. Anything other than that and people are either under informed or being told to do conflicting things.

Also, prolly is annoying as fuck. Everything you say doesn't need to be accompanied by a weird face and attempted hilarious joke to show le peoples how cool you are.


Theres a subtitlted gambit game on youtube and if you watch it you can tell there is no shotcaller on that team, they are all coming up with ideas as a unit.


I'm not sure why that should be important to me at all. Even if you are correctly diagnosing how Gambit communicates off one subtitled game, that just makes them different from almost every other high level team in every region. Having multiple shot-callers is bad, having everybody communicating is good. At the end of the day though, you need a voice that everybody will listen to saying whether to go in, back off, rush baron, etc, etc...
Anything is Possible
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
April 29 2013 03:00 GMT
#2680
On April 29 2013 11:59 Sufficiency wrote:
Sounds like Jatt just had enough of Riv


I must've missed it.

What he say?
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