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aAa disqualified from EU LCS due to lack of subs
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9207 Posts
April 28 2013 19:30 GMT
#1781
On April 29 2013 04:28 Kiett wrote:
Oh come on people. Yeah, okay, fnatic got the Zed, but all 5 members were just playing so phenomenally, that's hardly the reason why they won.

Don't worry, if Gambit would have won the last game we'd be reading about how OP purple side is.
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 19:31:54
April 28 2013 19:31 GMT
#1782
No real ceremony for the winners of the most important eu tournament feels kinda strange to me .
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 28 2013 19:32 GMT
#1783
On April 29 2013 04:31 Prog wrote:
No real ceremony for the winners of the most important eu tournament feels kinda strange to me .


Alex would just assassinate the party !
Malphite
Profile Joined December 2012
United States186 Posts
April 28 2013 19:32 GMT
#1784
to be honest... All Mana-less champions are either OP or useless. U can stay in lane forever. This is why Riot messed up introducing these dumb Mana-less champions. Nerfing Zed will make him useless.

I'm pretty sure we'll have mana-less top and mid lanes only........ Just like today, where zed was mid and rumble top. Jungler can use the blue buff all game if they want.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 28 2013 19:32 GMT
#1785
On April 29 2013 04:25 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 04:23 Alaric wrote:
On April 29 2013 04:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 29 2013 04:16 Mensol wrote:
TIL: zed is a bullshit and i'll ban him every single time.

TIL: people think everyone who plays zed is as good as xpeke; cuz zed op'd, not xpeke.

TYL: Zed 100% winrate and 100% pick/ban in those finals. His winrate (and Kha'Zix's, and Zac's) is also stupidly high in both LCS.

And purple side had 100% win rate in NA quarters, clearly op. Seriously you cant make statstics with such small samples.

Hence why I also mentioned the championship season rather than just the Bo5?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
April 28 2013 19:32 GMT
#1786
On April 29 2013 04:31 Prog wrote:
No real ceremony for the winners of the most important eu tournament feels kinda strange to me .


ceremonies and eSports generally don't mix
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 19:33:55
April 28 2013 19:32 GMT
#1787
both teams got zed 2 times if anything fnatic won fair and square
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9207 Posts
April 28 2013 19:33 GMT
#1788
On April 29 2013 04:29 Redox wrote:
Alex basically called the new teams in the up and down macthes better than the old bottom LCS. He seems to expect them to make it through, interesting.

Sad that E4L are in the same bracket as CW, I wanted both of them to be in the next season
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 19:36:56
April 28 2013 19:34 GMT
#1789
On April 29 2013 04:23 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 04:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 29 2013 04:16 Mensol wrote:
TIL: zed is a bullshit and i'll ban him every single time.

TIL: people think everyone who plays zed is as good as xpeke; cuz zed op'd, not xpeke.

TYL: Zed 100% winrate and 100% pick/ban in those finals. His winrate (and Kha'Zix's, and Zac's) is also stupidly high in both LCS.


Zed and Thresh are the only champs that stick out as unusually high pick/ban rate and also unusually high winrate, everyone else might have one or the other(high pick/ban but near 50%, or high win but average-ish pick).

Edit: For EU LCS btw, Zed is a ghost in NA, and loses more than he wins.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Sajaki
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada1135 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 19:36:09
April 28 2013 19:35 GMT
#1790
Im really looking forward to watching Wildturtle play in the NA finals now. It'll be refreshing to see some extremely solid ADC play, the EU adcs, specifically Fnatic Vs Gambit, looked a little underwhelming.
Inno pls...
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 28 2013 19:37 GMT
#1791
On April 29 2013 04:32 kongoline wrote:
both teams got zed 2 times if anything fnatic won fair and square

People aren't saying that Fnatic won because Zed's OP, just that's Zed's OP period. Gambit somehow didn't manage to snowball game 4 despite the ealy lead that they seemed to gain from all the chaos (at least seemed like it) and seemed to tilt in game 5, so in the end Fnatic prevailed, but I don't think anyone's "accused" them of winning through picking da OP (I'd be less lenient about Wickd and Zac, personally).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 28 2013 19:38 GMT
#1792
On April 29 2013 04:35 Sajaki wrote:
Im really looking forward to watching Wildturtle play in the NA finals now. It'll be refreshing to see some extremely solid ADC play, the EU adcs, specifically Fnatic Vs Gambit, looked a little underwhelming.

LOL when everyone else is miles worse adc look like solid players, but when they actually play against europeans they get smashed
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
April 28 2013 19:40 GMT
#1793
On April 29 2013 04:35 Sajaki wrote:
Im really looking forward to watching Wildturtle play in the NA finals now. It'll be refreshing to see some extremely solid ADC play, the EU adcs, specifically Fnatic Vs Gambit, looked a little underwhelming.

That final was extremely high level and while not being the best players I think the ADC on both team did a pretty good job overall
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 19:48:35
April 28 2013 19:44 GMT
#1794
On April 29 2013 04:32 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 04:31 Prog wrote:
No real ceremony for the winners of the most important eu tournament feels kinda strange to me .


ceremonies and eSports generally don't mix


Haha sadly I agree. Fuck it, just give the nerds their money in a backroom.

People saying the adc's of EU are lacking:
There's only so much $$$ and cs on the map. If the mid Zed has 300 cs by 30 minutes, the ADC's are going to be lacking in strength. It seems to me just a different meta. You'll notice in NA that it's going to be the ADC who has the most farm and are always the ones AFK farming in lane so obviously when they start fighting they are going to seem a lot stronger than the EU adc because they have way more gold and thus more impact in the teamfight whenever it happens.

Retvrn to Forvms
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 28 2013 19:50 GMT
#1795
On April 29 2013 04:35 Sajaki wrote:
Im really looking forward to watching Wildturtle play in the NA finals now. It'll be refreshing to see some extremely solid ADC play, the EU adcs, specifically Fnatic Vs Gambit, looked a little underwhelming.


Well you guys gotta hang on to something in NA might aswell be AD players.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 28 2013 19:57 GMT
#1796
Yo Genja and Yellowstar were pretty exceptional, and I usually don't see Genja's skill at all.
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 28 2013 20:01 GMT
#1797
To be fair, just from the grand final, we can't evaluate much from EU Adc at all since the series was all about Alex Ich vs Xpeke. May be a little bit of Soaz vs Darien as well but it was never about the ADC.

I don't think NA adc are better than EU adc, its just that in NA, the most solid position in many teams are adc.
Terran
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 20:27:16
April 28 2013 20:16 GMT
#1798
I guess yellowstar just came through for them way more in this particular series.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
April 28 2013 20:51 GMT
#1799
It was Soaz and Xpeke vs Diamond and Alex.
They are just on another level.
They carry their respective team imho.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
April 28 2013 22:14 GMT
#1800
Christ, it pains me to say this, but it seems like TSM is the only solid NA team at the moment
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