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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 14 2013 17:22 GMT
#261
EG also always used Shen to try and suppress TF, so they sacrificed the global presence of Shen and the very strong roaming of Ahri just to try and maintain the lanes—in that sense, it's their botlane's fault that they weren't able to at least hold their own considering all the efforts made to reduce the pressure on them. However, it also means that Rumble reached his midgame peak pretty comfortably, and since EG wasn't able to utterly crush TF he remained useful.

I thought that Giants! had pretty good map movement and warding too, when they pressured inner top, and the good call to drop the drake to get 2 towers. Getting more towers early eases a lot of the work when latter on Shen can splitpush while Ahri and Varus have strong wave clearing. On the contrary, I found that EG did pretty well to pressure top as a team to deny Giants! pushing. They failed to capitalise or take the tower though (I guess you have to blame Krepo for getting harassed so hard), but it stopped Giants! cross-map pushes.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 17:26:36
April 14 2013 17:24 GMT
#262
On April 15 2013 02:20 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 02:15 nxk wrote:
EG just got outpicked/didn't win early game hard enough, that's all, its not EG botlane's fault

maybe they got outpicked, they probably shouldn't have gone for the blue steal, but that doesn't really change my point.

Leona/Varus got bullied in lane by Zyra and Kennen (who played a great game to be fair). The latter two champions are by far the most common picks from Giants. If you truly want to be a professional you MUST prepare for games like this, otherwise the joke is on you.

Maybe I'm harsh on them, but frankly the lackluster way EG prepares for their games has been bugging me all season. Obviously you cannot predict every pick and ban, but you can plan ahead to some extent. If you don't have a solid plan to deal with someones signature champion than maybe you should ban him out. They didn't and they lost, so now they get mocked for it.



I agree with what you're saying (in terms of "this is their job they need to be better prepared", but I still think it's kind of unfair. If I remember correctly, that failed blue steal really hurt Leona/Varus, they had to deal with a Kennen with 3 assists and a Zyra with at least one kill and red buff - which gives that lane a huge starting advantage. You can prepare for a lane, but starting with a disadvantage like that is pretty hard to deal with at a professional level no matter how much preparation you put into it.

Krepo did get first blood though, so maybe some of this is on him not using that advantage to help keep the lane even.

I still don't get why they didn't just ban Kennen though.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
April 14 2013 17:26 GMT
#263
Yeah, Giants played really well this game, also I think EG should have focused more on shutting down Rumble IMO.. Letting Rumble 1v1 against Shen was a big mistake, he got quite farmed and his damage was a huge factor in teamfights.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
April 14 2013 17:27 GMT
#264
And yeah really, they should have banned Kennen.
Darkshark
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany27 Posts
April 14 2013 17:29 GMT
#265
I don't understand, why they did not ban Kennen or/and Zyra. I don't understand the Kha'Zix ban, isn't Exterminare a great TF player? I can not remember a game, in which he carried hard with Kha. So why don't ban out kennen instat of Kha?
The second thing i don't understand is, why did they swap lanes in the mid game. Wickd just lost the 2nd tower top without anything he could do against it. I would have stayed with Krepo and Pete top, maybe they would be 20-30 cs behind, but they wouldn't lost their tower so fast.
Well, WP by Giants.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
April 14 2013 17:29 GMT
#266
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 14 2013 17:31 GMT
#267
On April 15 2013 02:29 Darkshark wrote:
The second thing i don't understand is, why did they swap lanes in the mid game. Wickd just lost the 2nd tower top without anything he could do against it. I would have stayed with Krepo and Pete top, maybe they would be 20-30 cs behind, but they wouldn't lost their tower so fast.
Well, WP by Giants.

Obviously to get dragon. 2 man bot, + shen ult from top. So potentially 5v3.
Off-season = best season
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
April 14 2013 17:31 GMT
#268
On April 15 2013 02:29 Darkshark wrote:
I don't understand, why they did not ban Kennen or/and Zyra. I don't understand the Kha'Zix ban, isn't Exterminare a great TF player? I can not remember a game, in which he carried hard with Kha. So why don't ban out kennen instat of Kha?
The second thing i don't understand is, why did they swap lanes in the mid game. Wickd just lost the 2nd tower top without anything he could do against it. I would have stayed with Krepo and Pete top, maybe they would be 20-30 cs behind, but they wouldn't lost their tower so fast.
Well, WP by Giants.


Actually that laneswap mid game was an attempt by EG to take dragon but they were stopped by that ward that they couldn't clear because their pink ward couldn't see it. But even with that ward EG could have taken the dragon, guess they didn't want to risk losing the smite war.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
April 14 2013 17:44 GMT
#269
I take it nobody is interested in this game?
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
April 14 2013 17:45 GMT
#270
Just not much happening. I'm not sure why Shushei keeps trying to 1v1 Zed as Kha'zix...
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
April 14 2013 17:47 GMT
#271
Why does Cyanide pick Ghost over Flash when facing Jarvan? Is there a good reason for Ghost in this comp?
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 14 2013 17:51 GMT
#272
oh god DB what was that.... malphite teles in well after they died
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Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
April 14 2013 17:52 GMT
#273
On April 15 2013 02:44 Xacez wrote:
I take it nobody is interested in this game?

interested maybe, but so far this is one of the strangest games I have ever seen :p


And that was probably one of the most wasted Teleports I've seen
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
April 14 2013 17:54 GMT
#274
Hosan getting stomped by Yellowstar
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
April 14 2013 17:54 GMT
#275
Yeah I think that's around the 3rd 1v1 he lost to Yellowstar.
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
April 14 2013 17:59 GMT
#276
Hmm, yellowstar could have pushed that bottom inhib turret there
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
April 14 2013 18:00 GMT
#277
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nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
April 14 2013 18:01 GMT
#278
Wow, that ended pretty quick.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 14 2013 18:04 GMT
#279
On April 15 2013 02:51 Infundibulum wrote:
oh god DB what was that.... malphite teles in well after they died

Always nice to see cocky YamatoCannon failing.
Wp Fnatic. Soaz Jayce is beasty.
Off-season = best season
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
April 14 2013 18:23 GMT
#280
"You cant move your eyebrows? What's wrong with you?"

sigh. This pre game "show" is always a pleasure to watch
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
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