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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 22 2013 23:34 GMT
#641
Brawler Udyr. Also oom Ecco saves Nickwu. ^^'
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
March 22 2013 23:34 GMT
#642
On March 23 2013 08:26 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 08:18 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:13 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:10 Caphe wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:07 Sufficiency wrote:
I hope Vulcan wins the game today too; I think if Vulcan wins Vulcan will have a very good chance taking the 4th place over CLG.

If Vulcan stops throwing they can do it. I support Vulcan too, maybe only maybe after this week Hotshot will finally wake up and recruit a new top and move on to full-time manager.


are you serious? there's no free agent in NA that would actually be a feasible improvement over him. I mean yeah, he's not doing so well at the moment, but everyone on CLG is playing bad when they throw games like the last one.


Really? If I asked you the same question at the end of S2, would you answer the same on this question?

It feels to me that before S3, few people were aware of MegaZero and kiwikid... and look how well they are doing right now.


Dig only recruited kiwi because they had to when they lost dominate. Remember when CLG actually held tryouts for their support spot? Finding a new player is very high risk and takes a huge amount of resources. I'm not saying there aren't toplaner that might be better than hotshot, I'm saying that there arent toplaner that are so much better that it's worth the hassle. I mean just imagine you bench hotshot, recruit a guy and then he doesn't work out with the team.


I think over the past weeks of LCS, CRS/Dig/TSM all cemented themselves as top 3 while CLG is clearly not in contention anymore. Would you agree, or do you think if they keep the roster as is, they will somehow improve as a team (relative to the top 3)?

Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
March 22 2013 23:35 GMT
#643
On March 23 2013 08:32 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 08:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:26 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:18 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:13 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:10 Caphe wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:07 Sufficiency wrote:
I hope Vulcan wins the game today too; I think if Vulcan wins Vulcan will have a very good chance taking the 4th place over CLG.

If Vulcan stops throwing they can do it. I support Vulcan too, maybe only maybe after this week Hotshot will finally wake up and recruit a new top and move on to full-time manager.


are you serious? there's no free agent in NA that would actually be a feasible improvement over him. I mean yeah, he's not doing so well at the moment, but everyone on CLG is playing bad when they throw games like the last one.


Really? If I asked you the same question at the end of S2, would you answer the same on this question?

It feels to me that before S3, few people were aware of MegaZero and kiwikid... and look how well they are doing right now.


Dig only recruited kiwi because they had to when they lost dominate. Remember when CLG actually held tryouts for their support spot? Finding a new player is very high risk and takes a huge amount of resources. I'm not saying there aren't toplaner that might be better than hotshot, I'm saying that there arent toplaner that are so much better that it's worth the hassle. I mean just imagine you bench hotshot, recruit a guy and then he doesn't work out with the team.

Then recruit him as a sub and play with him in scrims and see if he develops into someone you can compete with in the LCS. You don't have to bench Hotshot right away, but you can start training a replacement.


... which still takes a substantial amount of resources for potentially nothing.

That's kind of how professional development of new players is for most competitive team sports.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 22 2013 23:36 GMT
#644
On March 23 2013 08:32 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 08:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:26 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:18 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:13 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:10 Caphe wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:07 Sufficiency wrote:
I hope Vulcan wins the game today too; I think if Vulcan wins Vulcan will have a very good chance taking the 4th place over CLG.

If Vulcan stops throwing they can do it. I support Vulcan too, maybe only maybe after this week Hotshot will finally wake up and recruit a new top and move on to full-time manager.


are you serious? there's no free agent in NA that would actually be a feasible improvement over him. I mean yeah, he's not doing so well at the moment, but everyone on CLG is playing bad when they throw games like the last one.


Really? If I asked you the same question at the end of S2, would you answer the same on this question?

It feels to me that before S3, few people were aware of MegaZero and kiwikid... and look how well they are doing right now.


Dig only recruited kiwi because they had to when they lost dominate. Remember when CLG actually held tryouts for their support spot? Finding a new player is very high risk and takes a huge amount of resources. I'm not saying there aren't toplaner that might be better than hotshot, I'm saying that there arent toplaner that are so much better that it's worth the hassle. I mean just imagine you bench hotshot, recruit a guy and then he doesn't work out with the team.

Then recruit him as a sub and play with him in scrims and see if he develops into someone you can compete with in the LCS. You don't have to bench Hotshot right away, but you can start training a replacement.


... which still takes a substantial amount of resources for potentially nothing.

Or they keep playing with Hotshot and continue to under perform? They need to take some risks if they want to stay competitive, because their current roster sure as hell isn't doing much.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 22 2013 23:37 GMT
#645
On March 23 2013 08:35 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 08:32 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:26 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:18 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:13 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:10 Caphe wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:07 Sufficiency wrote:
I hope Vulcan wins the game today too; I think if Vulcan wins Vulcan will have a very good chance taking the 4th place over CLG.

If Vulcan stops throwing they can do it. I support Vulcan too, maybe only maybe after this week Hotshot will finally wake up and recruit a new top and move on to full-time manager.


are you serious? there's no free agent in NA that would actually be a feasible improvement over him. I mean yeah, he's not doing so well at the moment, but everyone on CLG is playing bad when they throw games like the last one.


Really? If I asked you the same question at the end of S2, would you answer the same on this question?

It feels to me that before S3, few people were aware of MegaZero and kiwikid... and look how well they are doing right now.


Dig only recruited kiwi because they had to when they lost dominate. Remember when CLG actually held tryouts for their support spot? Finding a new player is very high risk and takes a huge amount of resources. I'm not saying there aren't toplaner that might be better than hotshot, I'm saying that there arent toplaner that are so much better that it's worth the hassle. I mean just imagine you bench hotshot, recruit a guy and then he doesn't work out with the team.

Then recruit him as a sub and play with him in scrims and see if he develops into someone you can compete with in the LCS. You don't have to bench Hotshot right away, but you can start training a replacement.


... which still takes a substantial amount of resources for potentially nothing.

That's kind of how professional development of new players is for most competitive team sports.


Yeah, but eSports teams generally don't have these kinds of resources.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 23:39:10
March 22 2013 23:38 GMT
#646
On March 23 2013 08:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 08:32 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:26 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:18 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:13 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:10 Caphe wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:07 Sufficiency wrote:
I hope Vulcan wins the game today too; I think if Vulcan wins Vulcan will have a very good chance taking the 4th place over CLG.

If Vulcan stops throwing they can do it. I support Vulcan too, maybe only maybe after this week Hotshot will finally wake up and recruit a new top and move on to full-time manager.


are you serious? there's no free agent in NA that would actually be a feasible improvement over him. I mean yeah, he's not doing so well at the moment, but everyone on CLG is playing bad when they throw games like the last one.


Really? If I asked you the same question at the end of S2, would you answer the same on this question?

It feels to me that before S3, few people were aware of MegaZero and kiwikid... and look how well they are doing right now.


Dig only recruited kiwi because they had to when they lost dominate. Remember when CLG actually held tryouts for their support spot? Finding a new player is very high risk and takes a huge amount of resources. I'm not saying there aren't toplaner that might be better than hotshot, I'm saying that there arent toplaner that are so much better that it's worth the hassle. I mean just imagine you bench hotshot, recruit a guy and then he doesn't work out with the team.

Then recruit him as a sub and play with him in scrims and see if he develops into someone you can compete with in the LCS. You don't have to bench Hotshot right away, but you can start training a replacement.


... which still takes a substantial amount of resources for potentially nothing.

Or they keep playing with Hotshot and continue to under perform? They need to take some risks if they want to stay competitive, because their current roster sure as hell isn't doing much.


Can you really soley blame hotshot when they all play bad? The team as whole is in a slump
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 22 2013 23:39 GMT
#647
Wow nice plays by MRN.
Retvrn to Forvms
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 22 2013 23:39 GMT
#648
Udyr tanking the tower like a boss.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
March 22 2013 23:39 GMT
#649
Draaaaaaven bitches
Administrator@TL_Zess
| (• ◡•)|八 (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
March 22 2013 23:39 GMT
#650
that bear stun flank doe
aka Sowelulol
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 22 2013 23:40 GMT
#651
Damn this is the most impressive I've seen mrn play, this is such a stomp but mrn are stomping so well.
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
March 22 2013 23:40 GMT
#652
Udyr too strong. Nerf incoming?
Off-season = best season
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
March 22 2013 23:42 GMT
#653
god damn
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#654
WTF. How did TF not die.... and WHERE THE HELL DID HE GO IN THAT TEAMFIGHT I totally lost sight of him.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 23:43:23
March 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#655
Report clakeyD 100% of deaths on mrn.
IS THAT A TRI ON DRAVEN!?
Glorious SEA doto
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
March 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#656
Ecco man mode
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#657
On March 23 2013 08:38 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 08:36 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:32 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:26 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:18 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:13 Woony wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:10 Caphe wrote:
On March 23 2013 08:07 Sufficiency wrote:
I hope Vulcan wins the game today too; I think if Vulcan wins Vulcan will have a very good chance taking the 4th place over CLG.

If Vulcan stops throwing they can do it. I support Vulcan too, maybe only maybe after this week Hotshot will finally wake up and recruit a new top and move on to full-time manager.


are you serious? there's no free agent in NA that would actually be a feasible improvement over him. I mean yeah, he's not doing so well at the moment, but everyone on CLG is playing bad when they throw games like the last one.


Really? If I asked you the same question at the end of S2, would you answer the same on this question?

It feels to me that before S3, few people were aware of MegaZero and kiwikid... and look how well they are doing right now.


Dig only recruited kiwi because they had to when they lost dominate. Remember when CLG actually held tryouts for their support spot? Finding a new player is very high risk and takes a huge amount of resources. I'm not saying there aren't toplaner that might be better than hotshot, I'm saying that there arent toplaner that are so much better that it's worth the hassle. I mean just imagine you bench hotshot, recruit a guy and then he doesn't work out with the team.

Then recruit him as a sub and play with him in scrims and see if he develops into someone you can compete with in the LCS. You don't have to bench Hotshot right away, but you can start training a replacement.


... which still takes a substantial amount of resources for potentially nothing.

Or they keep playing with Hotshot and continue to under perform? They need to take some risks if they want to stay competitive, because their current roster sure as hell isn't doing much.


Can you really soley blame hotshot when they all play bad? The team as whole is in a slump

I'd say he's contributing the least to the team at the moment. His champion pool just does not fit into the current meta, he needs to play Top laners that can actually apply pressure in lane and pick up some kills. There are comps when playing a tanky champ is warranted, but not every game.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
March 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#658
hahah no zhonya's TF ults into 5 and survives
aka Sowelulol
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
March 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#659
On March 23 2013 08:43 Sufficiency wrote:
WTF. How did TF not die.... and WHERE THE HELL DID HE GO IN THAT TEAMFIGHT I totally lost sight of him.


Shen ulti on him + full team taunt + lulu ulti + flash out.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 22 2013 23:44 GMT
#660
Man those combos Gate-Stand United-Wild Growth. Who needs a Zhonya? Just bait them into crowding around TF for a free multi-targets taunt, ensure TF survives, and then Draven comes in to lay the damage while Udyr gets the stragglers and peels. So well thought out, I like.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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