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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 15 2012 20:58 GMT
#701
On December 16 2012 05:55 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 05:51 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 16 2012 05:49 Redox wrote:
On December 16 2012 05:47 Gorsameth wrote:
how the hell can a professional team "random" a champion in a pro match.
Like... how are you so stupid.

They take a joke team in there first game and get stomped and then misspick game 2.
Cant help but say that CLG.eu is looking worse and worse every tournament they go to.


Froggen obviously didnt mean they truly randomed Rumble, if that is what you believe. The pick was not coordinated with the rest of the team. He picked as if Froggen was going bruiser, when he was actually going AP.

Also, so much hyperbole here lol.


Is that a better thing?
What are the talking about during and hell even before champ select if not about what kinda of team they are going to run.

Just wanted to clarify. No idea how that pick happened.

Although if you listen to teams during champ select more often, you realize that their picking process is generally much less thought through than people like to believe.

Western teams put far too little importance on drafting. They should take a page from their dota counterparts I feel.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 20:59:46
December 15 2012 20:58 GMT
#702
On December 16 2012 05:51 Beyonder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 05:44 Dan HH wrote:
Hate these excuses, "we lost but we had a random pick and we didn't practice". Show some fucking respect.

What? Their posts are full of self-blame. Random hater O_O


Then blame something like Froggen's inability to hit his ulti any time it counted. They had chances to win that game, but they didn't capitalise.

They started to lose when they all did some retarded play following Yellowpete getting caught (which itself was just poor play). They could have all simply backed off via safe route and cut their losses.

They lost the game in the game, there's really nothing else to it.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
December 15 2012 20:59 GMT
#703
On December 16 2012 05:55 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 05:51 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 16 2012 05:49 Redox wrote:
On December 16 2012 05:47 Gorsameth wrote:
how the hell can a professional team "random" a champion in a pro match.
Like... how are you so stupid.

They take a joke team in there first game and get stomped and then misspick game 2.
Cant help but say that CLG.eu is looking worse and worse every tournament they go to.


Froggen obviously didnt mean they truly randomed Rumble, if that is what you believe. The pick was not coordinated with the rest of the team. He picked as if Froggen was going bruiser, when he was actually going AP.

Also, so much hyperbole here lol.


Is that a better thing?
What are the talking about during and hell even before champ select if not about what kinda of team they are going to run.

Just wanted to clarify. No idea how that pick happened.

Although if you listen to teams during champ select more often, you realize that their picking process is generally much less thought through than people like to believe.

Not only them, CLG.NA and TSM do as well, pick on the fly. Not sure how about the Asians team pick/ban phase but I do think that most NA and EU teams don't discuss pick/ban much before it actually happens.
Terran
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 21:01:31
December 15 2012 21:00 GMT
#704
On December 16 2012 05:59 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 05:55 Redox wrote:
On December 16 2012 05:51 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 16 2012 05:49 Redox wrote:
On December 16 2012 05:47 Gorsameth wrote:
how the hell can a professional team "random" a champion in a pro match.
Like... how are you so stupid.

They take a joke team in there first game and get stomped and then misspick game 2.
Cant help but say that CLG.eu is looking worse and worse every tournament they go to.


Froggen obviously didnt mean they truly randomed Rumble, if that is what you believe. The pick was not coordinated with the rest of the team. He picked as if Froggen was going bruiser, when he was actually going AP.

Also, so much hyperbole here lol.


Is that a better thing?
What are the talking about during and hell even before champ select if not about what kinda of team they are going to run.

Just wanted to clarify. No idea how that pick happened.

Although if you listen to teams during champ select more often, you realize that their picking process is generally much less thought through than people like to believe.

Not only them, CLG.NA and TSM do as well, pick on the fly. Not sure how about the Asians team pick/ban phase but I do think that most NA and EU teams don't discuss pick/ban much before it actually happens.

Yeah I meant pro teams in general. CLG.eu was actually known for putting more thoughts into it than most other (western) teams.
Off-season = best season
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22165 Posts
December 15 2012 21:02 GMT
#705
LoL really needs to learn from Dota in picking. Whole pages full of stuff while they were playing The Invitational.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
December 15 2012 21:02 GMT
#706
missed skt1 vs fnatic, how was it?
<3 Kim Taeyeon
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
December 15 2012 21:04 GMT
#707
CJ wins at hero selection
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
December 15 2012 21:06 GMT
#708
Not sure if i like MYM's team. If you go double reset, go Caitlyn, go Ezreal, go Ashe, but why the heck would you run Kog'Maw. Especially if the opponent team has Diana, Lee Sin and still a top lane to pick....
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
December 15 2012 21:08 GMT
#709
I quite like how Zed gave them a little bit of (counter)poke vs CLG.EU, especially with his ability to leave a shadow and fire shurikens from it at unusual angles / in a way that wouldn't leave them vulnerable to quite Lux combos. It's only really Lulu via Pix-assisted Glitterlances who can get similar off-kilter angles with straight-line poke, and only if Pix is on a minion.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 21:11:03
December 15 2012 21:08 GMT
#710
On December 16 2012 06:06 DragoonTT wrote:
Not sure if i like MYM's team. If you go double reset, go Caitlyn, go Ezreal, go Ashe, but why the heck would you run Kog'Maw. Especially if the opponent team has Diana, Lee Sin and still a top lane to pick....


Should've gone leona/draven for the initiate/burst for teh reset :D.

edit:Welp.....There goes first place.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
December 15 2012 21:10 GMT
#711
Double buff and double kill for Ezreal, oh dear.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
December 15 2012 21:10 GMT
#712
GG Ezreal.

G
Fucking
G
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 15 2012 21:11 GMT
#713
On December 16 2012 06:10 Haasts wrote:
Double buff and double kill for Ezreal, oh dear.


GG I think, lol.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
December 15 2012 21:11 GMT
#714
Stomp incoming I feel xD
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 21:12:04
December 15 2012 21:11 GMT
#715
Lol that could not have gone any worse for MYM.
Kinda hate lvl 1 and how it can tilt a game so early.
Off-season = best season
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
December 15 2012 21:11 GMT
#716
Kogmaw gonna get bullied so hard its not even funny
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
December 15 2012 21:13 GMT
#717
Why do people even bother to invade or fight against Lee Sin teams? You can't beat him without a numerical advantage, he just deals that much damage.
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
December 15 2012 21:16 GMT
#718
Oh, sick The Great Escape from Lee there
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
December 15 2012 21:16 GMT
#719
Diamondprox would be proud of this Lee.
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
December 15 2012 21:16 GMT
#720
Insec is a beast on Lee. Escape artist.
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
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