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Alright, we're going to call it a day with all the Thorin drama, guys. I figured if it was about SI, onGamers, TSM, etc, it had some relevance to League but somehow you guys managed to devolve the discussion into an issue about race of all things.

Enough is enough. Let's move along now.

-NeoIllusions
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 03:04:06
June 05 2014 03:03 GMT
#281
On June 05 2014 11:23 InfSunday wrote:
Is there any reason that Vi has dropped off the professional level recently so hard compared to a few patches ago? Are the other strong junglers really that much better than she is? I've been playing her a lot recently and she seems just as good as she was before, though maybe I'm just playing against people who don't know what they're doing. :/


On June 05 2014 11:30 LightningStrike wrote:
Vi wasn't as good as Kha,Elise,Lee, and Eve for early game power in terms of their ganks plus Eve got global pressure due to invisibility so that's another reason too.


That, and Morgana support rose to dominance, and Morg counters Vi pretty hard. You snare her whenever she Qs in to gank, or pop your ult and force Vi to either blow flash to run or get a guaranteed stun on her.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 03:08:29
June 05 2014 03:03 GMT
#282
Double post, my bad.

I don't know what champs are out there currently that could become hipster FotM. Maybe TF, possibly Ezreal... Aatrox I think also has potential. Ashe is still decent, Kennen and Rumble I think can be good AP top laners again if the meta shifts away from lane swaps. Lissandra could also be decent I think, Zac's probably one small buff away from being relevant again. Diana just needs Moonblade on SR to be good, instead of it only being TT and Dominion.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 04:21:47
June 05 2014 03:14 GMT
#283
Average game length for One For All, the most popular 50 champions.


http://i.imgur.com/EiveLSL.png



reddit post: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/27cq7h/one_for_all_statistics_a_game_with_karthus_lasts/
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
June 05 2014 03:19 GMT
#284
On June 05 2014 12:03 Kinie wrote:
Double post, my bad.

I don't know what champs are out there currently that could become hipster FotM. Maybe TF, possibly Ezreal... Aatrox I think also has potential. Ashe is still decent, Kennen and Rumble I think can be good AP top laners again if the meta shifts away from lane swaps. Lissandra could also be decent I think, Zac's probably one small buff away from being relevant again. Diana just needs Moonblade on SR to be good, instead of it only being TT and Dominion.


Ezreal: You could just play Corki or Lucian. Pretty sure the LMQ adc likes Ez.
TF: How is he not FOTM? Sees a lot of play in OGN
Aatrox: Personally I don't see why he isn't played right now, E is good for 2v1 and Q lets you farm ala max E shyv
Ashe: No
Kennen/Rumble: Kennen was popular in the press-R meta and Balls has been playing more Rumble recently
Zac: pls no bufferino
@miicah88
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
June 05 2014 03:27 GMT
#285
On June 05 2014 12:19 miicah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 12:03 Kinie wrote:
Double post, my bad.

I don't know what champs are out there currently that could become hipster FotM. Maybe TF, possibly Ezreal... Aatrox I think also has potential. Ashe is still decent, Kennen and Rumble I think can be good AP top laners again if the meta shifts away from lane swaps. Lissandra could also be decent I think, Zac's probably one small buff away from being relevant again. Diana just needs Moonblade on SR to be good, instead of it only being TT and Dominion.


Ezreal: You could just play Corki or Lucian. Pretty sure the LMQ adc likes Ez.
TF: How is he not FOTM? Sees a lot of play in OGN
Aatrox: Personally I don't see why he isn't played right now, E is good for 2v1 and Q lets you farm ala max E shyv
Ashe: No
Kennen/Rumble: Kennen was popular in the press-R meta and Balls has been playing more Rumble recently
Zac: pls no bufferino

Been playing TF forever, now I get to watch everyone relearn him haha.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
June 05 2014 03:41 GMT
#286
is rengar still freelo ?
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
June 05 2014 03:42 GMT
#287
i know it's just a vu but i swear karthus is stronger. maybe now that i see the skittles i finally notice how much they hurt
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
June 05 2014 03:44 GMT
#288
On June 05 2014 12:41 Steins;Gate wrote:
is rengar still freelo ?


I think so? The bug fix on his Q and leap from bushes was needed and stops the instagib feel, but you can still 100-0 champs in like .5s. Now you see yourself dying instead of just gray screen followed by Rengar standing where your corpse is.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
June 05 2014 03:46 GMT
#289
On June 05 2014 12:41 Steins;Gate wrote:
is rengar still freelo ?


ohyaaaa
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 05 2014 03:51 GMT
#290
I tried the Karthus. His Q cooldown is correct, despite what Scarra said. I kept casting Q for 20 seconds and only got 19 casts off. It's not 0.6 seconds cooldown as some people claimed.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 05 2014 03:57 GMT
#291
On June 05 2014 11:23 InfSunday wrote:
Is there any reason that Vi has dropped off the professional level recently so hard compared to a few patches ago? Are the other strong junglers really that much better than she is? I've been playing her a lot recently and she seems just as good as she was before, though maybe I'm just playing against people who don't know what they're doing. :/


Morgana.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 05 2014 03:59 GMT
#292
On June 05 2014 12:03 Kinie wrote:
Double post, my bad.

I don't know what champs are out there currently that could become hipster FotM. Maybe TF, possibly Ezreal... Aatrox I think also has potential. Ashe is still decent, Kennen and Rumble I think can be good AP top laners again if the meta shifts away from lane swaps. Lissandra could also be decent I think, Zac's probably one small buff away from being relevant again. Diana just needs Moonblade on SR to be good, instead of it only being TT and Dominion.


With the purple side bug fixed, I could see Rumble becoming very strong. Hasn't he had a pretty high win rate on blue side since his buff?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
June 05 2014 04:01 GMT
#293
On June 05 2014 11:50 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 11:49 Steelavocado wrote:
On June 05 2014 11:46 Amui wrote:
Did NA just blow up, I can't connect to my game.

Apparently the game disappeared?? I'm back into client with no match history or anything.....

Drophacked

Why somebody would drophack straight out of champ select I'll never know...

Team comps/trolls in champ select I guess, maybe I was wrong but it wouldn't be too crazy to blame the hackdrops
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
June 05 2014 04:05 GMT
#294
Did riot address drophacking yet? I've had two games today where I'm drophacked right when we're winning and we all dc and lag and then we lose. This is freaking frustrating as hell.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 04:06:54
June 05 2014 04:05 GMT
#295
New Karthus is insane. If you can land Q, he's got to have one of the best single-target DPS in the game (grammar is terribad here, but you know what I mean). Combined with Kha6 nerf, he's a good jungler right now (though I only played two games with him, but it feels good).

The VU for his Q helps a lot, it also feels a lot more powerful, like you're throwing a land mine under them instead of a whoopee cushion. It feels smoother like I can almost orbwalk, though I don't know if that's an actual programming change.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
June 05 2014 04:43 GMT
#296
On June 05 2014 08:43 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 08:38 Goumindong wrote:
On June 05 2014 08:23 sob3k wrote:
On June 05 2014 08:20 FinestHour wrote:
how would flask ever be worth on yasuo


tele/ghost, open flask into mobi boots and run/tele back and forth from lane to fountain for maximum flask charges and therefore value


Flask needs the mana regen to make it efficient, otherwise you can just buy pots and items. If you don't use mana, you can't make use of flask

Yeah ok maybe cloth + 5 would be better vs AD bullies. -> ninja tabis.

Serker greaves are great but they don't add as much damage as ninja tabis do tankiness.

But but... reddit says Tabi is bad because Tenacity from Merc's is required!

On June 05 2014 11:23 InfSunday wrote:
Is there any reason that Vi has dropped off the professional level recently so hard compared to a few patches ago? Are the other strong junglers really that much better than she is? I've been playing her a lot recently and she seems just as good as she was before, though maybe I'm just playing against people who don't know what they're doing. :/

Largely because of the rise of utility mids. Assassins are a lot weaker in the meta because its harder for them to blow people up. Vi became popular because she could lock down people and with her decent damage + assassin that would be near garunteed. Now it's harder for the assassin to lane in general, causing their frequency to drop, leaving Vi's strength as a ganker out in the cold. Then, the popularity of Thresh/Leona giving rise to Morgana puts her in a spot where her early game is weaker and shuts her out of mid/late teamfighting and relegates her to setting picks.

Everything else has high damage and moderate effective cc to the point where they make up for a utility's shield or heals. Like a lot of champions, in a vacuum she's a quality pick, but in the meta she doesn't quite fit.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-05 05:07:24
June 05 2014 05:05 GMT
#297
So, being a completely unrelated party to the LCS you can still get fined.

ODEE has to pay 1k because he was a dick in streamchat of Summoners Insight.

Let's hope Dignitas' Starcraft players never leave a game without saying GG, they might end up banning Dig from the LCS ~~

Who the fuck does Riot think they are, the USA aka World Police?

Next thing you know they give Scip chat restrictions because he posted the stream link of him making fun of VayneAuthority.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 05 2014 05:06 GMT
#298
Being manager of the team = completely unrelated to the LCS...?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
June 05 2014 05:07 GMT
#299
On June 05 2014 14:05 Celial wrote:
So, being a completely unrelated party to the LCS you can still get fined.

ODEE has to pay 1k because he was a dick in streamchat of Summoners Insight.

Let's hope Dignitas' Starcraft players never leave a game without saying GG, they might end up banning Dig from the LCS ~~

Who the fuck does Riot think they are, the USA aka World Police?


Good, maybe a professional representative of a sponsored team being paid salary by the league they compete in will stop acting like that
: o )
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
June 05 2014 05:07 GMT
#300
On June 05 2014 14:06 GolemMadness wrote:
Being manager of the team = completely unrelated to the LCS...?


Owner. Someone else manages the team in the US I think.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
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