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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 19 2012 02:08 GMT
#821
On October 19 2012 11:05 MooMooMugi wrote:
Dominate refuses to jungle in soloQ for some reason, and hes so bad at top its not even funny


Curiously..... Is he good at all? My most memorable moment of IWD is his Alistar during OGN Champion Summer.... he camped the bottom lane for like 3 minutes only to fail the QW combo.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 19 2012 02:09 GMT
#822
Scarra really pushing that Ori. She just seems so finnicky, not really straight up strong like Ahri or even Annie, only shines in certain situations. Maybe it's just me.
It's your boy Guzma!
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 19 2012 02:09 GMT
#823
Because 50% of LoL playerbase doesn't' play ranked, has no interest in playing ranked, hates playing ranked? I'm sure there are a few talented unranked players who only play normals
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 02:12:38
October 19 2012 02:11 GMT
#824
On October 19 2012 11:09 Requizen wrote:
Scarra really pushing that Ori. She just seems so finnicky, not really straight up strong like Ahri or even Annie, only shines in certain situations. Maybe it's just me.


Orianna is so annoying though. Unlike some other skillshot champions, Orianna has a shield that also gives MR, and just in case she missed her skillshots she can still auto you. I really dislike laning against Orianna. Luckily I don't see too many... I guess people around my skill level are too nub to realize how broken she is
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 02:14:18
October 19 2012 02:13 GMT
#825
On October 19 2012 11:08 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 11:05 MooMooMugi wrote:
Dominate refuses to jungle in soloQ for some reason, and hes so bad at top its not even funny


Curiously..... Is he good at all? My most memorable moment of IWD is his Alistar during OGN Champion Summer.... he camped the bottom lane for like 3 minutes only to fail the QW combo.

He looked promising when he first joined Dignitas when Jatt left but after the first few tournaments with Dignitas only placing in top 5, top 3, in tournaments and never winning anything, its clear that the junglers from every other team does a better job than IWD does and then some. I really liked Jatt more than IWD and I felt he fit into/led the team much better than he does now
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11630 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 02:20:34
October 19 2012 02:19 GMT
#826
On October 19 2012 11:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Because 50% of LoL playerbase doesn't' play ranked, has no interest in playing ranked, hates playing ranked? I'm sure there are a few talented unranked players who only play normals


I am pretty sure that those don't count in that statistic. If i understand correctly, the average of LoL elo is at 1200, which, if the system works correctly, would mean that half of the people who play ranked are below 1200.

The crazy part is when you notice that you are gold or platinum, and that means you are in the top 1-3%. Which makes no sense whatsoever considering just how bad i am.

I think the lesson one should take out of this is just that it is hard to overestimate just how bad the average LoL player is.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 19 2012 02:26 GMT
#827
On October 19 2012 11:19 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 11:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Because 50% of LoL playerbase doesn't' play ranked, has no interest in playing ranked, hates playing ranked? I'm sure there are a few talented unranked players who only play normals


I am pretty sure that those don't count in that statistic. If i understand correctly, the average of LoL elo is at 1200, which, if the system works correctly, would mean that half of the people who play ranked are below 1200.

The crazy part is when you notice that you are gold or platinum, and that means you are in the top 1-3%. Which makes no sense whatsoever considering just how bad i am.

I think the lesson one should take out of this is just that it is hard to overestimate just how bad the average LoL player is.

This is not just the case in LoL.

In SC2, too, I've been able to reach plat even though my macro is terrible, my APM is 20-30 and I don't have builds, I just wing it every game.
From how I viewed myself playing SC, I should have been bronze, but I underestimated the amount of bad that is present in the majority of people.

Ppl so bad
A backwards poet writes inverse.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 02:51:11
October 19 2012 02:29 GMT
#828
On October 19 2012 11:19 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 11:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Because 50% of LoL playerbase doesn't' play ranked, has no interest in playing ranked, hates playing ranked? I'm sure there are a few talented unranked players who only play normals


I am pretty sure that those don't count in that statistic. If i understand correctly, the average of LoL elo is at 1200, which, if the system works correctly, would mean that half of the people who play ranked are below 1200.

The crazy part is when you notice that you are gold or platinum, and that means you are in the top 1-3%. Which makes no sense whatsoever considering just how bad i am.

I think the lesson one should take out of this is just that it is hard to overestimate just how bad the average LoL player is.

Let me break it down for you:

the ENTIRE LoL playerbase that play ranked: Mystery, I'm guessing around 40-50%

of that 40-50%, only 50% are actually 1250 or higher(which is old "bronze", now silver is 1150), rest of 50% are sub <1250 which is unranked
This information is outdated because you are given a bronze medal all the way down to 850 I believe

Now these are the % of ONLY RANKED players
Silver is top 20-25%

Gold is top 5-10%

Plat is top 1-2%

Diamond is top 0.01%

Again, these stats are OUTDATED, the new tiers for medals made every tier so much lower before, especially for the lower tiers
Bronze(1250, or "old bronze") is top 60-70%, Silver is probably top 30-40%, Gold top 10-5%, Plat top 2-2.5%

Edit: There are currently 351,086 "ranked" players according to the official soloQ ladder, which starts at 1200 which is AUTOMATICALLY silver


|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Shivaz
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 02:35:21
October 19 2012 02:32 GMT
#829
On October 19 2012 11:19 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 11:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Because 50% of LoL playerbase doesn't' play ranked, has no interest in playing ranked, hates playing ranked? I'm sure there are a few talented unranked players who only play normals


I am pretty sure that those don't count in that statistic. If i understand correctly, the average of LoL elo is at 1200, which, if the system works correctly, would mean that half of the people who play ranked are below 1200.

The crazy part is when you notice that you are gold or platinum, and that means you are in the top 1-3%. Which makes no sense whatsoever considering just how bad i am.

I think the lesson one should take out of this is just that it is hard to overestimate just how bad the average LoL player is.


Top 1-3% of all players higher than 1200 elo is the stat. I remember someone on reddit collected the data of players above 1200 elo. I am pretty terrible at this game and I am 1800 elo which is top 2% of all players above 1200 elo, thus if you account people below 1200 and people that dont play ranked yeah.. so what you said about the average LoL player.

edit: here is the data, about 1 month old now http://i.imgur.com/OGWi6.png
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 19 2012 02:32 GMT
#830
Its pretty reasonable to assume the population that plays ranked is roughly the same in skill distribution than those that don't play ranked ever (if not slightly better), so being in the top 10% of ranked players is the same as the top 10% of all players.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11630 Posts
October 19 2012 02:38 GMT
#831
On October 19 2012 11:29 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 11:19 Simberto wrote:
On October 19 2012 11:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Because 50% of LoL playerbase doesn't' play ranked, has no interest in playing ranked, hates playing ranked? I'm sure there are a few talented unranked players who only play normals


I am pretty sure that those don't count in that statistic. If i understand correctly, the average of LoL elo is at 1200, which, if the system works correctly, would mean that half of the people who play ranked are below 1200.

The crazy part is when you notice that you are gold or platinum, and that means you are in the top 1-3%. Which makes no sense whatsoever considering just how bad i am.

I think the lesson one should take out of this is just that it is hard to overestimate just how bad the average LoL player is.

Let me break it down for you:

the ENTIRE LoL playerbase that play ranked: Mystery, I'm guessing around 40-50%

of that 40-50%, only 50% are actually 1250 or higher(which is old "bronze"), rest of 50% are sub <1250 which is unranked
This information is outdated because you are given a bronze medal all the way down to 850 I believe

Now these are the % of ONLY RANKED players
Silver is top 20-25%

Gold is top 5-10%

Plat is top 1-2%

Diamond is top 0.01%

Again, these stats are OUTDATED, the new tiers for medals made every tier so much lower before, especially for the lower tiers
Bronze is top 60-70%, Silver is probably top 30-40%, Gold top 10-20%, Plat top 5%


I just looked at what the lol wiki says here. I don't know where they got their data, though, so i don't know how much one can believe them. They state that gold in the season 2 system is top 5-10%, and plat top 0.5-1% of all the people playing ranked.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
October 19 2012 02:38 GMT
#832
On October 19 2012 11:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Because 50% of LoL playerbase doesn't' play ranked, has no interest in playing ranked, hates playing ranked? I'm sure there are a few talented unranked players who only play normals


EgoIgnaxio is a pretty good example. He soared really high once he started playing ranked to shut up everyone who said he was bad because he only plays Normals.

He got to 2k ELO in two to three weeks iirc.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 19 2012 02:41 GMT
#833
If anything, the new medals thing just made a shitload of bronze players change to silver so they wouldn't feel as bad, and the unranked->bronze for the same reason
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 19 2012 02:41 GMT
#834
God, Nid is such a bitch.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 19 2012 02:43 GMT
#835
gg dig
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 02:47:10
October 19 2012 02:46 GMT
#836
On October 19 2012 11:38 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 11:29 MooMooMugi wrote:
On October 19 2012 11:19 Simberto wrote:
On October 19 2012 11:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Because 50% of LoL playerbase doesn't' play ranked, has no interest in playing ranked, hates playing ranked? I'm sure there are a few talented unranked players who only play normals


I am pretty sure that those don't count in that statistic. If i understand correctly, the average of LoL elo is at 1200, which, if the system works correctly, would mean that half of the people who play ranked are below 1200.

The crazy part is when you notice that you are gold or platinum, and that means you are in the top 1-3%. Which makes no sense whatsoever considering just how bad i am.

I think the lesson one should take out of this is just that it is hard to overestimate just how bad the average LoL player is.

Let me break it down for you:

the ENTIRE LoL playerbase that play ranked: Mystery, I'm guessing around 40-50%

of that 40-50%, only 50% are actually 1250 or higher(which is old "bronze"), rest of 50% are sub <1250 which is unranked
This information is outdated because you are given a bronze medal all the way down to 850 I believe

Now these are the % of ONLY RANKED players
Silver is top 20-25%

Gold is top 5-10%

Plat is top 1-2%

Diamond is top 0.01%

Again, these stats are OUTDATED, the new tiers for medals made every tier so much lower before, especially for the lower tiers
Bronze is top 100%, Silver is probably top 30-40%, Gold top 10-20%, Plat top 5%


I just looked at what the lol wiki says here. I don't know where they got their data, though, so i don't know how much one can believe them. They state that gold in the season 2 system is top 5-10%, and plat top 0.5-1% of all the people playing ranked.

Their stats seem to be correct, they prob grabbed them from the official Lol site like I did
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11630 Posts
October 19 2012 02:48 GMT
#837
Hm, but they are significantly NOT the stats you just posted before.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-19 02:50:17
October 19 2012 02:50 GMT
#838
On October 19 2012 11:06 BlackPaladin wrote:
Is it sad that I don't even play at all anymore, never was any good, and yet I'm higher than over 50% of the playerbase....? :/
I....I don't even know how that's possible.

You have to realize that LoL is HUGE so casuals who have either never played video games or come from console games are playing. I have some RL friends that played Xbox Live casually who have no idea how to even control their mouse and keyboard. It's no surprise that if you have experience playing on the PC you'll be better than those who don't.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 19 2012 02:51 GMT
#839
IWD didn't really seem that strong in these games. GG CLG
It's your boy Guzma!
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 19 2012 02:52 GMT
#840
On October 19 2012 11:38 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2012 11:09 MooMooMugi wrote:
Because 50% of LoL playerbase doesn't' play ranked, has no interest in playing ranked, hates playing ranked? I'm sure there are a few talented unranked players who only play normals


EgoIgnaxio is a pretty good example. He soared really high once he started playing ranked to shut up everyone who said he was bad because he only plays Normals.

He got to 2k ELO in two to three weeks iirc.

For every sleeper 2k elo normals only player, there could be 999 other pretty terrible normals only players.
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