• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:24
CET 10:24
KST 18:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket11Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge1[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA12
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating thread
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] GosuLeague T1 Ro16 - Tue & Thu 22:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread [Game] Osu! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2113 users

General Discussion/Off-topic - Page 1081

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1152 Next
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17268 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 06:19:30
July 18 2011 06:19 GMT
#21601
Can't do normals, either. They turned off loss forgiven just in time for nothing to be fixed and the entire platform to fail even more than it already was.

Riot trolling real hard.
twitch.tv/cratonz
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 18 2011 07:00 GMT
#21602
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar

Note the enemy's champion choices. I fucking hate this game sometimes.

Gimme 1700 ranked solo queue any day.

Looks just like my average normal game when I queue with 4 1400s.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
July 18 2011 07:24 GMT
#21603
I've thought about joining a competitive team to get back into things, but I just don't know if I want to invest the time in this game. I have some strategies in mind and it would be fun to try them out in a tournament setting. Oh well, it's fun being relatively obscure to the majority of the LoL community.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 18 2011 07:35 GMT
#21604
On July 18 2011 16:24 LoCicero wrote:
I've thought about joining a competitive team to get back into things, but I just don't know if I want to invest the time in this game. I have some strategies in mind and it would be fun to try them out in a tournament setting. Oh well, it's fun being relatively obscure to the majority of the LoL community.

i wanna see ur suicide veigar in a tourney setting. didnt work out so well in normals ;o
GANDHISAUCE
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 18 2011 07:44 GMT
#21605
On July 18 2011 16:00 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar

Note the enemy's champion choices. I fucking hate this game sometimes.

Gimme 1700 ranked solo queue any day.

Looks just like my average normal game when I queue with 4 1400s.


was an easy win if neverlike didnt go 0-7
iaeuy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 08:01:40
July 18 2011 07:47 GMT
#21606
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar


2100 elo mf
1800 elo zilean
1700 elo sona

EDIT: also, here's my own screen shot of what happens when i queue in normals. Our average ranked elo is ~1530.
[image loading]
:3
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 18 2011 07:53 GMT
#21607
On July 18 2011 16:47 iaeuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar


2100 elo mf
1800 elo zilean
1700 elo sona


I call Blaze being called out.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 18 2011 08:00 GMT
#21608
On July 18 2011 13:56 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 13:21 Craton wrote:
http://pastebin.com/L833v055

On July 18 2011 13:19 ArC_man wrote:
On July 18 2011 12:07 QuakerOats wrote:
On July 18 2011 11:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
I just think they know they cant win, and they dont bother trying. They dont actually care about winning tourneys, and therefore never practice, so then they do "troll" games or blame playing badly (dreamhack) to cover for the fact that they just arent all that good when compared to actual teams.

Although they are better than the TL team who didnt give a shit enough to never bother actually show up for games.


But they got second place, didn't they? And I missed the last two games, but I saw them beat TSM pretty convincingly in the first game they played against them, so... it definitely doesn't seem to me like they think they can't win against a decent team, because they've shown they can.

+1
People are talking about CLG like they're a bottom-of-the-barrel team; right now they're still arguably the best team in NA. It's like they completely forgot that CLG crushed TSM to qualify in winners bracket finals just a couple hours ago.

TSM and CLG are pretty polarizing -- both teams are pretty good, but both have massive tools (notably Reginald for TSM and a varying amount of SV and HSGG for CLG).

Every other NA team is pretty much lumped in the category of 'meh.'

CLG's problem is still Elementz, not hotshot, nor saintvicious. Elementz rage is the reason why they all take the blame for losses and never bring up what went wrong. The problem is, Elementz isn't able to take any sort of criticism. Which is one of the reasons why CLG loses even if they're fielding Jiji and Chauster as solos in a good day.

By the way, this comes from CLG, I'm just putting some pieces together for easier reading while not giving away the full story behind it.


I think that CLG needs a dedicated support. Like, now.

Also, anyone else think that if US ever goes to EU meta of running double AP carry that TSM is gonna have to drop Rain Man? I can't think of a single AP carry he plays.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
July 18 2011 08:14 GMT
#21609
http://pastebin.com/L833v055


Xpecial real special

I think that CLG needs a dedicated support. Like, now.


Here's the problem. Hotshot can only play 2, maybe 3 champs that are tourney worthy. Same with Elementz.

If you need one of them to go to the solo lane all the time, CLG's picks are really limited. (Assuming Chauster and jiji swap off for an AP/AD carry.)

But yes, I do think CLG needs a dedicated support player. Epik picked up puregoldenboy because Doublelift acted like a douche, so that's one choice gone. I've seen Hotshot's Janna and it's not pretty. I've also never seen Elementz be able to play any support besides Sona.

Also, anyone else think that if US ever goes to EU meta of running double AP carry that TSM is gonna have to drop Rain Man? I can't think of a single AP carry he plays.


He just plays tanky DPS. I think in general, their team comps are decent.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
July 18 2011 09:09 GMT
#21610
On July 18 2011 17:00 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 13:56 r33k wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:21 Craton wrote:
http://pastebin.com/L833v055

On July 18 2011 13:19 ArC_man wrote:
On July 18 2011 12:07 QuakerOats wrote:
On July 18 2011 11:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
I just think they know they cant win, and they dont bother trying. They dont actually care about winning tourneys, and therefore never practice, so then they do "troll" games or blame playing badly (dreamhack) to cover for the fact that they just arent all that good when compared to actual teams.

Although they are better than the TL team who didnt give a shit enough to never bother actually show up for games.


But they got second place, didn't they? And I missed the last two games, but I saw them beat TSM pretty convincingly in the first game they played against them, so... it definitely doesn't seem to me like they think they can't win against a decent team, because they've shown they can.

+1
People are talking about CLG like they're a bottom-of-the-barrel team; right now they're still arguably the best team in NA. It's like they completely forgot that CLG crushed TSM to qualify in winners bracket finals just a couple hours ago.

TSM and CLG are pretty polarizing -- both teams are pretty good, but both have massive tools (notably Reginald for TSM and a varying amount of SV and HSGG for CLG).

Every other NA team is pretty much lumped in the category of 'meh.'

CLG's problem is still Elementz, not hotshot, nor saintvicious. Elementz rage is the reason why they all take the blame for losses and never bring up what went wrong. The problem is, Elementz isn't able to take any sort of criticism. Which is one of the reasons why CLG loses even if they're fielding Jiji and Chauster as solos in a good day.

By the way, this comes from CLG, I'm just putting some pieces together for easier reading while not giving away the full story behind it.


I think that CLG needs a dedicated support. Like, now.

Also, anyone else think that if US ever goes to EU meta of running double AP carry that TSM is gonna have to drop Rain Man? I can't think of a single AP carry he plays.

I agree. If they want to become a more serious team, they need to have a serious player dedicated to playing support with great map awareness (and probably duo queue w/ Chauster and practice playing support). In all 3 games against TSM today, I felt like Xpecial/Chaox outfarmed and outplayed Chauster/Elementz.

I was looking at the EU support players and they take supporting extremely seriously (US server down so I just made an EU acc). They all have like 4-5 runepages for their support champs, which is like "wut?".
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
July 18 2011 09:27 GMT
#21611
I'm a terrible support player
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
July 18 2011 09:40 GMT
#21612
On July 18 2011 16:53 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 16:47 iaeuy wrote:
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar


2100 elo mf
1800 elo zilean
1700 elo sona


I call Blaze being called out.


Hell, I didn't say we weren't stacking good people. Its still easily harder than like ~1700 solo ranked.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 18 2011 09:42 GMT
#21613
On July 18 2011 18:27 mercurial wrote:
I'm a terrible support player


bro just get pink taric (still on sale?) and use shake build, pure AP. unlimited kills with any AD besides ashe. sogut sogut sogut

do u like tyler the creator? (indei rap)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 18 2011 09:44 GMT
#21614
He just plays tanky DPS. I think in general, their team comps are decent.


Yeh, I realize that Rainman plays tanky DPS. I'm just saying that if EU meta ever comes to US there won't be much of a place for him on TSM. They already have their jungler, if they wanted to do the EU style of double AP carry then Rainman would have to get the boot. As you said though, the team comps for SoloMid work for them right now and there's no indication of the US meta changing anytime soon.

Still, I think it'd be in the best interest of Rainman and HotshotGG to work on getting good at other champs. Both of them would be super easy to ban out. If CLG just let Regi get whatever champ he wants and ban out Rainman TSM would basically be playing a 4v5. That's kind of what happened to CLG when Solomid banned Cho/Nid.


I agree. If they want to become a more serious team, they need to have a serious player dedicated to playing support with great map awareness (and probably duo queue w/ Chauster and practice playing support). In all 3 games against TSM today, I felt like Xpecial/Chaox outfarmed and outplayed Chauster/Elementz.

I was looking at the EU support players and they take supporting extremely seriously (US server down so I just made an EU acc). They all have like 4-5 runepages for their support champs, which is like "wut?".


Yeah, I don't think too many US players at all take support seriously. I mean, most of the support players on the US teams tend to be people who played other stuff and never play support unless they're playing with their team. Xpecial/Chaox definitely outplayed Chauster/Elementz and I don't think it's because Xpecial is a great support player (because he isn't) and I don't think that Chaox is better than Chauster (or at least, even if he is, not by much). If Elementz wants to stay on CLG I think they need to tell him to go play support for awhile. If he doesn't want to they need to drop him.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 18 2011 09:44 GMT
#21615
On July 18 2011 06:33 Senx wrote:
God im so sick of people in normals thinking you're trolling when you pick revive panth and want a solo lane.. real fucking ignorance.

People whine at me and think I'm trolling when I pick pant without even picking revive~~
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 18 2011 09:45 GMT
#21616
I'm getting so tired of Riot's server problems -__-. They say it'll be up by 2:00 so I figure I can sneak in a game before I sleep and what happens next is the servers are still down after almost an hour. FUCK i'm pissed at riot for wasting my time over and over time and time again.
BW -> League -> CSGO
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 18 2011 10:15 GMT
#21617
I was standing in the login queue for 6 hours yesterday. True story.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
DrKlingmann
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland356 Posts
July 18 2011 10:59 GMT
#21618
On July 18 2011 18:27 mercurial wrote:
I'm a terrible support player

Why would The Devil want to be a support player? :o
--- EUNE Jarpen ---
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 11:49:52
July 18 2011 11:49 GMT
#21619
On July 18 2011 19:59 DrKlingmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:27 mercurial wrote:
I'm a terrible support player

Why would The Devil want to be a support player? :o


The devil carries all those poor lil souls?
Oi how do you know I'm Therealdevil!
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
July 18 2011 12:37 GMT
#21620
On July 18 2011 16:47 iaeuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar


2100 elo mf
1800 elo zilean
1700 elo sona

EDIT: also, here's my own screen shot of what happens when i queue in normals. Our average ranked elo is ~1530.
[image loading]
:3

[image loading]
Omg me too! Baddies always keeping me down! Never my fault though, I swear, I never have bad games, and this game is entirely representative of my average play and results.

zzzzzz
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Prev 1 1079 1080 1081 1082 1083 1152 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RSL Revival
07:30
Playoffs
SHIN vs TriGGeRLIVE!
herO vs Reynor
Maru vs MaxPax
Crank 1229
Tasteless719
IndyStarCraft 131
TKL 89
Rex71
CranKy Ducklings47
3DClanTV 31
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Crank 1229
Tasteless 719
IndyStarCraft 131
TKL 89
Rex 71
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 648
actioN 549
Soma 481
Killer 284
Leta 166
Rush 142
ajuk12(nOOB) 132
Light 74
Sharp 56
ToSsGirL 55
[ Show more ]
soO 40
Sacsri 36
zelot 36
hero 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever235
XcaliburYe69
League of Legends
JimRising 445
Counter-Strike
olofmeister597
shoxiejesuss440
zeus94
Other Games
summit1g15845
ceh9521
C9.Mang0205
XaKoH 202
Fuzer 158
crisheroes94
NeuroSwarm33
Trikslyr27
Dewaltoss23
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream12805
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 95
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH156
• LUISG 17
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• iopq 0
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo902
• Jankos762
• Stunt547
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
2h 36m
Replay Cast
13h 36m
RSL Revival
22h 6m
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 2h
SC Evo League
1d 3h
IPSL
1d 7h
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
OSC
1d 7h
BSL 21
1d 10h
TerrOr vs Aeternum
HBO vs Kyrie
RSL Revival
1d 22h
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs OldBoy
Sziky vs Tarson
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs Artosis
OyAji vs KameZerg
Replay Cast
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-16
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.