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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 06:19:30
July 18 2011 06:19 GMT
#21601
Can't do normals, either. They turned off loss forgiven just in time for nothing to be fixed and the entire platform to fail even more than it already was.

Riot trolling real hard.
twitch.tv/cratonz
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 18 2011 07:00 GMT
#21602
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar

Note the enemy's champion choices. I fucking hate this game sometimes.

Gimme 1700 ranked solo queue any day.

Looks just like my average normal game when I queue with 4 1400s.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
July 18 2011 07:24 GMT
#21603
I've thought about joining a competitive team to get back into things, but I just don't know if I want to invest the time in this game. I have some strategies in mind and it would be fun to try them out in a tournament setting. Oh well, it's fun being relatively obscure to the majority of the LoL community.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 18 2011 07:35 GMT
#21604
On July 18 2011 16:24 LoCicero wrote:
I've thought about joining a competitive team to get back into things, but I just don't know if I want to invest the time in this game. I have some strategies in mind and it would be fun to try them out in a tournament setting. Oh well, it's fun being relatively obscure to the majority of the LoL community.

i wanna see ur suicide veigar in a tourney setting. didnt work out so well in normals ;o
GANDHISAUCE
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 18 2011 07:44 GMT
#21605
On July 18 2011 16:00 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar

Note the enemy's champion choices. I fucking hate this game sometimes.

Gimme 1700 ranked solo queue any day.

Looks just like my average normal game when I queue with 4 1400s.


was an easy win if neverlike didnt go 0-7
iaeuy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 08:01:40
July 18 2011 07:47 GMT
#21606
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar


2100 elo mf
1800 elo zilean
1700 elo sona

EDIT: also, here's my own screen shot of what happens when i queue in normals. Our average ranked elo is ~1530.
[image loading]
:3
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 18 2011 07:53 GMT
#21607
On July 18 2011 16:47 iaeuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar


2100 elo mf
1800 elo zilean
1700 elo sona


I call Blaze being called out.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 18 2011 08:00 GMT
#21608
On July 18 2011 13:56 r33k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 13:21 Craton wrote:
http://pastebin.com/L833v055

On July 18 2011 13:19 ArC_man wrote:
On July 18 2011 12:07 QuakerOats wrote:
On July 18 2011 11:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
I just think they know they cant win, and they dont bother trying. They dont actually care about winning tourneys, and therefore never practice, so then they do "troll" games or blame playing badly (dreamhack) to cover for the fact that they just arent all that good when compared to actual teams.

Although they are better than the TL team who didnt give a shit enough to never bother actually show up for games.


But they got second place, didn't they? And I missed the last two games, but I saw them beat TSM pretty convincingly in the first game they played against them, so... it definitely doesn't seem to me like they think they can't win against a decent team, because they've shown they can.

+1
People are talking about CLG like they're a bottom-of-the-barrel team; right now they're still arguably the best team in NA. It's like they completely forgot that CLG crushed TSM to qualify in winners bracket finals just a couple hours ago.

TSM and CLG are pretty polarizing -- both teams are pretty good, but both have massive tools (notably Reginald for TSM and a varying amount of SV and HSGG for CLG).

Every other NA team is pretty much lumped in the category of 'meh.'

CLG's problem is still Elementz, not hotshot, nor saintvicious. Elementz rage is the reason why they all take the blame for losses and never bring up what went wrong. The problem is, Elementz isn't able to take any sort of criticism. Which is one of the reasons why CLG loses even if they're fielding Jiji and Chauster as solos in a good day.

By the way, this comes from CLG, I'm just putting some pieces together for easier reading while not giving away the full story behind it.


I think that CLG needs a dedicated support. Like, now.

Also, anyone else think that if US ever goes to EU meta of running double AP carry that TSM is gonna have to drop Rain Man? I can't think of a single AP carry he plays.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
July 18 2011 08:14 GMT
#21609
http://pastebin.com/L833v055


Xpecial real special

I think that CLG needs a dedicated support. Like, now.


Here's the problem. Hotshot can only play 2, maybe 3 champs that are tourney worthy. Same with Elementz.

If you need one of them to go to the solo lane all the time, CLG's picks are really limited. (Assuming Chauster and jiji swap off for an AP/AD carry.)

But yes, I do think CLG needs a dedicated support player. Epik picked up puregoldenboy because Doublelift acted like a douche, so that's one choice gone. I've seen Hotshot's Janna and it's not pretty. I've also never seen Elementz be able to play any support besides Sona.

Also, anyone else think that if US ever goes to EU meta of running double AP carry that TSM is gonna have to drop Rain Man? I can't think of a single AP carry he plays.


He just plays tanky DPS. I think in general, their team comps are decent.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
July 18 2011 09:09 GMT
#21610
On July 18 2011 17:00 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 13:56 r33k wrote:
On July 18 2011 13:21 Craton wrote:
http://pastebin.com/L833v055

On July 18 2011 13:19 ArC_man wrote:
On July 18 2011 12:07 QuakerOats wrote:
On July 18 2011 11:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
I just think they know they cant win, and they dont bother trying. They dont actually care about winning tourneys, and therefore never practice, so then they do "troll" games or blame playing badly (dreamhack) to cover for the fact that they just arent all that good when compared to actual teams.

Although they are better than the TL team who didnt give a shit enough to never bother actually show up for games.


But they got second place, didn't they? And I missed the last two games, but I saw them beat TSM pretty convincingly in the first game they played against them, so... it definitely doesn't seem to me like they think they can't win against a decent team, because they've shown they can.

+1
People are talking about CLG like they're a bottom-of-the-barrel team; right now they're still arguably the best team in NA. It's like they completely forgot that CLG crushed TSM to qualify in winners bracket finals just a couple hours ago.

TSM and CLG are pretty polarizing -- both teams are pretty good, but both have massive tools (notably Reginald for TSM and a varying amount of SV and HSGG for CLG).

Every other NA team is pretty much lumped in the category of 'meh.'

CLG's problem is still Elementz, not hotshot, nor saintvicious. Elementz rage is the reason why they all take the blame for losses and never bring up what went wrong. The problem is, Elementz isn't able to take any sort of criticism. Which is one of the reasons why CLG loses even if they're fielding Jiji and Chauster as solos in a good day.

By the way, this comes from CLG, I'm just putting some pieces together for easier reading while not giving away the full story behind it.


I think that CLG needs a dedicated support. Like, now.

Also, anyone else think that if US ever goes to EU meta of running double AP carry that TSM is gonna have to drop Rain Man? I can't think of a single AP carry he plays.

I agree. If they want to become a more serious team, they need to have a serious player dedicated to playing support with great map awareness (and probably duo queue w/ Chauster and practice playing support). In all 3 games against TSM today, I felt like Xpecial/Chaox outfarmed and outplayed Chauster/Elementz.

I was looking at the EU support players and they take supporting extremely seriously (US server down so I just made an EU acc). They all have like 4-5 runepages for their support champs, which is like "wut?".
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
July 18 2011 09:27 GMT
#21611
I'm a terrible support player
TL Blazeraid
Profile Joined January 2011
566 Posts
July 18 2011 09:40 GMT
#21612
On July 18 2011 16:53 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 16:47 iaeuy wrote:
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar


2100 elo mf
1800 elo zilean
1700 elo sona


I call Blaze being called out.


Hell, I didn't say we weren't stacking good people. Its still easily harder than like ~1700 solo ranked.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 18 2011 09:42 GMT
#21613
On July 18 2011 18:27 mercurial wrote:
I'm a terrible support player


bro just get pink taric (still on sale?) and use shake build, pure AP. unlimited kills with any AD besides ashe. sogut sogut sogut

do u like tyler the creator? (indei rap)
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 18 2011 09:44 GMT
#21614
He just plays tanky DPS. I think in general, their team comps are decent.


Yeh, I realize that Rainman plays tanky DPS. I'm just saying that if EU meta ever comes to US there won't be much of a place for him on TSM. They already have their jungler, if they wanted to do the EU style of double AP carry then Rainman would have to get the boot. As you said though, the team comps for SoloMid work for them right now and there's no indication of the US meta changing anytime soon.

Still, I think it'd be in the best interest of Rainman and HotshotGG to work on getting good at other champs. Both of them would be super easy to ban out. If CLG just let Regi get whatever champ he wants and ban out Rainman TSM would basically be playing a 4v5. That's kind of what happened to CLG when Solomid banned Cho/Nid.


I agree. If they want to become a more serious team, they need to have a serious player dedicated to playing support with great map awareness (and probably duo queue w/ Chauster and practice playing support). In all 3 games against TSM today, I felt like Xpecial/Chaox outfarmed and outplayed Chauster/Elementz.

I was looking at the EU support players and they take supporting extremely seriously (US server down so I just made an EU acc). They all have like 4-5 runepages for their support champs, which is like "wut?".


Yeah, I don't think too many US players at all take support seriously. I mean, most of the support players on the US teams tend to be people who played other stuff and never play support unless they're playing with their team. Xpecial/Chaox definitely outplayed Chauster/Elementz and I don't think it's because Xpecial is a great support player (because he isn't) and I don't think that Chaox is better than Chauster (or at least, even if he is, not by much). If Elementz wants to stay on CLG I think they need to tell him to go play support for awhile. If he doesn't want to they need to drop him.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
July 18 2011 09:44 GMT
#21615
On July 18 2011 06:33 Senx wrote:
God im so sick of people in normals thinking you're trolling when you pick revive panth and want a solo lane.. real fucking ignorance.

People whine at me and think I'm trolling when I pick pant without even picking revive~~
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 18 2011 09:45 GMT
#21616
I'm getting so tired of Riot's server problems -__-. They say it'll be up by 2:00 so I figure I can sneak in a game before I sleep and what happens next is the servers are still down after almost an hour. FUCK i'm pissed at riot for wasting my time over and over time and time again.
BW -> League -> CSGO
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
July 18 2011 10:15 GMT
#21617
I was standing in the login queue for 6 hours yesterday. True story.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
DrKlingmann
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland356 Posts
July 18 2011 10:59 GMT
#21618
On July 18 2011 18:27 mercurial wrote:
I'm a terrible support player

Why would The Devil want to be a support player? :o
--- EUNE Jarpen ---
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-18 11:49:52
July 18 2011 11:49 GMT
#21619
On July 18 2011 19:59 DrKlingmann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:27 mercurial wrote:
I'm a terrible support player

Why would The Devil want to be a support player? :o


The devil carries all those poor lil souls?
Oi how do you know I'm Therealdevil!
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
July 18 2011 12:37 GMT
#21620
On July 18 2011 16:47 iaeuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 11:43 TL Blazeraid wrote:
Since it got brought up, here's a pic for you naysayers
[image loading]

1900 elo orianna
1900 elo jarvan
1700 elo alistar


2100 elo mf
1800 elo zilean
1700 elo sona

EDIT: also, here's my own screen shot of what happens when i queue in normals. Our average ranked elo is ~1530.
[image loading]
:3

[image loading]
Omg me too! Baddies always keeping me down! Never my fault though, I swear, I never have bad games, and this game is entirely representative of my average play and results.

zzzzzz
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
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